RE: Ineos shows off Grenadier interior

RE: Ineos shows off Grenadier interior

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Dan_1981

17,402 posts

200 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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I think the space Shuttle had fewer buttons / switches / fiddly bits.

AngryPartsBloke

1,436 posts

152 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Utterly ridiculous

Neill-l9qpf

64 posts

79 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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I really wanted to love this but it's a huge disappointment. I thought they were going with simplicity and functionality, something incredibly hard to do while maintaining good ergonomics, but the mix of dozens of faux aeronautical switches, iDrive and touch screen ends up falling between two stools... its not simple and functional (it's far too cluttered) and it doesn't look pleasingly expensive or premium, to my eye it looks like a modified emergency services vehicle where loads of buttons have been added to an otherwise normal vehicle

Chris944_S2

1,919 posts

224 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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The more I see this, the more I get the impress that they just want to sell an image of ruggedness, rather than actually appeal to those who need a rugged car.
I expect it will be mainly used as a lifestyle car rather than an actual workhorse. It will be the leftfield choice to a Land Rover or G class.

Andy665

3,633 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Ineos can't win can they, make something that looks like the Defender and its criticised, they deliver an interior that is very different and then criticised for doing something different.

I like the interior - got the balance between form and function just about right

Truckosaurus

11,329 posts

285 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Chris944_S2 said:
...I expect it will be mainly used as a lifestyle car rather than an actual workhorse. It will be the leftfield choice to a Land Rover or G class.
I don't think anyone should be surprised that is the market they are going for. No-one is going to be cross-shopping a base spec Hilux and an Ineos.

Bill

52,830 posts

256 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Truckosaurus said:
At the very least we should be celebrating that it actually has buttons (all the buttons!) instead of sticking it all on a touchscreen, which would have been the much cheaper solution for a small manufacturer to come up with.
Why so many though. It's meant to be a simple, mechanical car. How many options could you possibly need quick access to?

Om

1,780 posts

79 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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fantheman80

1,453 posts

50 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Please tell me thats an optional 'space shuttle' pack for the centre console, and you can spec a simple black surround. Feck me thats terrible, poorly judged. I am all for rugged, utiliterian, retro even, but thats cheap and nasty.

V8 FOU

2,977 posts

148 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Oh Buttons!
Just love Buttons.

Cinderella will be pleased he's back....

JerryF

283 posts

175 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Like the aviation inspired layout. The final piece of the jigsaw is price.

The associated INEOS video mentions the order book opens in October.

Krikkit

26,541 posts

182 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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JakeT said:
All of those old world buttons, and the iDrive bits. Ew.
The manual 4WD selector and BMW automatic gear-lever. Ew.

Looks like a very clumsy mix of old and new, and not in the right way.
Yep agreed - the power ranger's leg of the BMW with a big rough and tough lever for the other gubbins, weird.

Presumably BMW insist that if you use their powertrains you've got to integrate that gear lever too? It appears in the Morgans too.

That aside it looks OK, hardly the basic vehicle they've touted it as so far but otherwise it looks suitably robust.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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There is absolutely nothing utilitarian about that interior, it's very faux utilitarian in fact. Nothing wrong with that, apart from this contention that is a 'proper' 4x4 compared to modern JLR output.

As to touchscreens, has anyone driven a tractor or large excavator in the last ten or twenty years, they almost all have touchscreens and they are distinctly utilitarian.

Macboy

742 posts

206 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Krikkit said:
Yep agreed - the power ranger's leg of the BMW with a big rough and tough lever for the other gubbins, weird.

Presumably BMW insist that if you use their powertrains you've got to integrate that gear lever too? It appears in the Morgans too.
A new gear lever is going to be hugely expensive - £1m+ I'd bet and it'll be a testing a development nightmare when ZF/BMW will only warranty their components if it meets the OE item's specs. So, you suck it up and use the ugly/obvious BMW part.

A.J.M

7,920 posts

187 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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That looks a mess.

Not very well laid out. Surely the controls should be easy to find and use without having to look up and faff about to find them.

Anyone who genuinely thought this was going to be a modern version of a 300tdi defender must be rather gutted now.

budgie smuggler

5,392 posts

160 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Macboy said:
Ergonomically it's a disaster.
Why do you say that?

Obviously I haven't sat in the car but it looks like all the controls you need to use regularly are easy to find, large and widely spaced so you can operate them without looking at them.

Also like the 'toot' button, assuming it does the Ogmios-style 'just a gentle beep'

J4CKO

41,634 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Definite plane flightdeck influence going on there.

TheOctaneAddict

763 posts

48 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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Thought that centre console looked familiar.

JBL

10 posts

275 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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I appreciate that this is built to a price point and with maintenance in mind, but with so much innovation in car design currently (Tesla etc.), this really does seem a little disappointing.

They should have dug deeper and moved the game on more.


JD

2,777 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th July 2021
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budgie smuggler said:
Macboy said:
Ergonomically it's a disaster.
Why do you say that?


Looks like you knock the gearbox into sport mode to turn down the radio....