Wells Vertige - New British sportscar

Wells Vertige - New British sportscar

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GTRene

16,596 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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alscar said:
I clicked on this thread a few minutes ago and just received a Christmas email and newsletter from Wells !
hah, me the next day after I posted it, saw some nice new pictures of more Vertiges.





looks like a friendly good bunch of people thumbup



Robertb

1,463 posts

239 months

Friday 22nd December 2023
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Looks brilliant, good to hear they are doing well.

Pic of the green car with the doors open from above is great…

Just joined their mailing list

Edited by Robertb on Friday 22 December 22:23

coppice

8,624 posts

145 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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The green one is just gorgeous - and that view evokes that lovely era of small mid engined sports racers so well. Paint it red , apply an AGIP sticker on the flank and an Abarth Scorpion on the side and you're leading your class on the 1967 Targa Florio .If this had been around when I had the spare cash . . I'd have been tempted .

ArgonautX

176 posts

52 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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Is there an option for LHD setup?

GTRene

16,596 posts

225 months

Saturday 23rd December 2023
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ArgonautX said:
Is there an option for LHD setup?
yes, look at this early example.


Yaaan

61 posts

114 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Another view of the green car from the Christmas gathering. I think it looks great!
They’ve got a great team there now and are starting to make good progress.

Art Keller

779 posts

80 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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Meanwhile at TVR..............

TeeGTI

89 posts

9 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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I've enjoyed reading through this thread and glad to see they are doing well.

Although not something I would be in the market for anytime soon, I'm still really interested to hear how owners are enjoying their cars!

GTRene

16,596 posts

225 months

Sunday 24th December 2023
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lovely picture Ian.

Yaaan

61 posts

114 months

Tuesday 26th December 2023
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GTRene said:
lovely picture Ian.
Thanks Rene. I think it’s a lovely looking thing and am very much looking forward to mine being ready, hopefully in time for the summer…

GTRene

16,596 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st March
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Dear Enthusiast,

I am delighted to announce that Wells Motor Cars have been invited to exhibit one of our stunning cars at the British Motor Museum.

The British Motor Museum is home to the world’s largest collection of historic British Cars; it has over 400 cars in its collection spanning the classic, vintage and veteran eras. The Museum tells the story of the birth, decline and rebirth of the motor industry and the cars it produced, as well as celebrating the skills and creativity of the people who designed and built them. You can find out more at https://www.britishmotormuseum.co.uk/

Here at Wells Motor Cars, we are proud to be producing a truly home-grown sportscar. 99% of our suppliers are based within the British Isles and more than 30% are within 40 miles from our assembly facility near Gaydon.
For our car to be featured at the British Motor Museum is an honour and a privilege.

Prize Draw!
We’d love to see your pictures of the car whilst it is on display, and are running a Prize Draw to celebrate! If you’d like to participate, simply take one or more photos of our car at the Museum, post on Instagram and tag us in your pictures @wellsmotorcars.co.uk and use the hashtag #wellsvertige. Alternatively, you can send them to us by replying to this email. All pictures will be entered into a Prize Draw for a Merchandise Bundle and the winner will be contacted on 17th April 2024.

The Wells Vertige will be at the British Motor Museum from the 23rd March 2024 to 15th April 2024.

Kind Regards,




I wonder who goes, if you make pictures, post them also here, hope they (Wells) do good.

maybe they also can make those installed engine's very economical by throttling them a lot with some simple things, so that they are not fast, for example, but get a very low C02, say around 100gr/km and not like the 230gr/km that something like that has now,

that is for example NL a difference of lots of euro's for 2024 say paying extra tax outside the 21% in NL a lus 50k or just 2k by 100gr/km.

so that on the same engine, then ones through the intake proces and after the plates, a owner can build it back to UK original or say build a supercharger on that same engine, whatever, but then no extra 50k to the State robbing us for such light small car. Just a tip, so they can also sell more to country's like NL with their extra tax BPM on Co2 base per gr/km.

BPM/Co2 at 550 g/km = 226,163 euros > this (high 550 price) is when they not know what the official Co2/gr/km is from a petrol engine!! eeek.
BPM/Co2 at 500 g/km = 198,713 euros
BPM/Co2 at 400 g/km = 143,813 euros
BPM/Co2 at 300 g/km = 88,913 euros
BPM/C02 at 200 g/km = 34,013 euros
BPM/Co2 at 190 g/km = 28,523 euros
BPM/Co2 at 180 g/km = 23,033 euros
BPM/Co2 at 170 g/km = 17,543 euros
BPM/Co2 at 160 g/km = 12,564 euros
BMM/Co2 at 150 g/km = 9,824 euros
BPM/Co2 at 100 g/km = 2,084 euros

Sway

26,321 posts

195 months

Thursday 21st March
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I wonder who goes, if you make pictures, post them also here, hope they (Wells) do good.

maybe they also can make those installed engine's very economical by throttling them a lot with some simple things, so that they are not fast, for example, but get a very low C02, say around 100gr/km and not like the 230gr/km that something like that has now,

that is for example NL a difference of lots of euro's for 2024 say paying extra tax outside the 21% in NL a lus 50k or just 2k by 100gr/km.

so that on the same engine, then ones through the intake proces and after the plates, a owner can build it back to UK original or say build a supercharger on that same engine, whatever, but then no extra 50k to the State robbing us for such light small car. Just a tip, so they can also sell more to country's like NL with their extra tax BPM on Co2 base per gr/km.

BPM/Co2 at 550 g/km = 226,163 euros > this (high 550 price) is when they not know what the official Co2/gr/km is from a petrol engine!! eeek.
BPM/Co2 at 500 g/km = 198,713 euros
BPM/Co2 at 400 g/km = 143,813 euros
BPM/Co2 at 300 g/km = 88,913 euros
BPM/C02 at 200 g/km = 34,013 euros
BPM/Co2 at 190 g/km = 28,523 euros
BPM/Co2 at 180 g/km = 23,033 euros
BPM/Co2 at 170 g/km = 17,543 euros
BPM/Co2 at 160 g/km = 12,564 euros
BMM/Co2 at 150 g/km = 9,824 euros
BPM/Co2 at 100 g/km = 2,084 euros
Really don't see any way anyone (especially someone as small as Wells) is going to be able to get that engine CO2 down anywhere near that level!

It'd also take a very brave company to so overtly manipulate emissions taxes post dieselgate.

GTRene

16,596 posts

225 months

Thursday 21st March
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Sway said:
Really don't see any way anyone (especially someone as small as Wells) is going to be able to get that engine CO2 down anywhere near that level!

It'd also take a very brave company to so overtly manipulate emissions taxes post dieselgate.
thats not manipulate if you make it economical, say detune the engine, there is nothing wrong about that, even put say a limiter on it even that it becomes slow.

what a owner does after the buy and that person changes it, that has nothing to do with the car brand maker, then its out their hands.

but that way they can sell more, some people like even slow-ish cars, they care about the looks and or environment ;-)

its the same-ish as buying a new porsche 992 Turbo and pay the tax in the Netherlands, I guess 100k extra on the Co2 base, and then tune it to say 700-800 hp once its on plates, its about the same-ish or buy a Porsche 992 T and after putting it on plates people tune it from the 385hp (turbo) to say 450 or more and nobody cares so to speak.

so they can offer a base economical version on the same engine which more brands do, to sell en for their governments WEF goals...

otolith

56,205 posts

205 months

Friday 22nd March
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Can’t see a 2.0 Duretec being detuned to give that sort of figure.

Sway

26,321 posts

195 months

Friday 22nd March
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otolith said:
Can’t see a 2.0 Duretec being detuned to give that sort of figure.
Agreed. The fact that no manufacturer is doing it (let alone a tiny little startup) is fairly telling.

Being able to remap/dial up the boost is very different - no one is releasing a 'slow, economical' sports car so there's no/minimal initial purchase emissions taxes, but a handy and easy way to turn it up to full whack.

Closest examples I can think were the little engined Ferraris in Italy back in the 70s? Perhaps stuff like 90s Supra/Skyline, but that was a little different in premise.

GTRene

16,596 posts

225 months

Friday 22nd March
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otolith said:
Can’t see a 2.0 Duretec being detuned to give that sort of figure.
I don't know if that's possible either, of course some can be done when you also look at all the different outputs for such engine, say from 110 to say 240hp or when yo look at some race engines with or without a restrictor.

Its just a suggestion to get those cars also sell in difficult countries like say the Netherlands, then a buyer can change things if they wish later, or drive it as it is with a fuel economic slower engine :-) but then more affordable if you like the design/looks of the car.

same as say a VW Golf, you could get say a 1.3L or a 2.0 or even a 3.2? liter with more or less the same looks, the 1.3 was say very economical and low extra Co2 tax, and the faster models got the high tax, but the looks were same-ish or you could make them look the same, incl the engine like say a TVR Grantura made to Griffith 200 specs, same-ish looks different Co2 tax, but later people cold change it like many car owners change their cars outside the tax world at their own accord.

Sway

26,321 posts

195 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Vertige at Goodwood Members Meet (taken by a mate).

Think it's Mazda Soul Red? Suits it!






samoht

5,736 posts

147 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Thanks for sharing, always good to see more pics.

swisstoni

17,034 posts

280 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Nice looking thing.

GTRene

16,596 posts

225 months

Wednesday 24th April
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Sway said:


Vertige at Goodwood Members Meet (taken by a mate).

Think it's Mazda Soul Red? Suits it!
that color suits it well, thanks for sharing.