RE: Integra positioned for comeback
Discussion
Jon_S_Rally said:
It's probably going to be an electric crossover
I feel the same pang of disappointment with these as to when I’m scanning through the TV channels and see a title from yesteryear, only to find it’s a modern docusoap series with nothing in common to the original e.g. 48 Hours, Revenge, erm... 90210! SidewaysSi said:
So we have Countach and Integra. What next, the Orion and Cavalier?
LM-002 hopefully, with added SUV-ness and a mild hybrid effect (maybe to power the stogie lighters). Just needs tales of ownership from a modern day despot, although I’ll let others finish off that particular thought process...Grew up with loads of these (JDM imports) - where's the coupe thing coming from? I'm certain the vast majority of these were always 4 door.
In the 90's it was just the next size/step up from a Civic. I don't expect this one to be any different in that regard.
They've got enough SUV/crossover model names with equity (esp. in USA) so I reckon this will be more "car" than SUV.
What will be interesting is if this model is a US development or a Japan development. If the former, there is no chance it will be coming over to Europe.
In the 90's it was just the next size/step up from a Civic. I don't expect this one to be any different in that regard.
They've got enough SUV/crossover model names with equity (esp. in USA) so I reckon this will be more "car" than SUV.
What will be interesting is if this model is a US development or a Japan development. If the former, there is no chance it will be coming over to Europe.
SuperPav said:
What will be interesting is if this model is a US development or a Japan development. If the former, there is no chance it will be coming over to Europe.
The last NSX was a US development and that came over to Europe so no reason why the Integra shouldn't do the same if developed in the US. GroundEffect said:
Had two of the real things.
- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
Depends on what you like, having had both the z4m and the integra, as a driver's car the bimmer never got close but if you want something to show off to your friends it's the one to have.- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
Would be interested to see what honda do with this, hopefully we don't get another nsx...
rwindmill said:
It will be a mild-hybrid SUV/Crossover, with a few styling nods to the original car (white paint, red seats, crinkle finish paint on the cam cover).
All manufacturers know, that if you release anything other than an SUV/Crossover these days, it just wont sell (I mean, be leased).
I'm honestly amazed Ford haven't announced the re-release of the 'Escort' yet!!
The Escort is still for sale...All manufacturers know, that if you release anything other than an SUV/Crossover these days, it just wont sell (I mean, be leased).
I'm honestly amazed Ford haven't announced the re-release of the 'Escort' yet!!
Jonstar said:
GroundEffect said:
Had two of the real things.
- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
Depends on what you like, having had both the z4m and the integra, as a driver's car the bimmer never got close but if you want something to show off to your friends it's the one to have.- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
Would be interested to see what honda do with this, hopefully we don't get another nsx...
I can see why they didn't do a Type R of the NSX - no one really wants to have their bones shaked in a car you might use a lot of the time. And the NSX is trying to be the everyday supercar.
BS62 said:
What we want it to be is an FK8 coupe.
What it will probably be is an EV crossover.
I wouldn't be so worried - The prototype was already spied a week or so back in the US.What it will probably be is an EV crossover.
Certainly not SUV size:- The exhaust & cooling setup would imply ICE power; The complete drivetrain is still unknown but I wouldn't mind a light-hybrid implementation; There is form from Honda with IMA on the CRZ (Hybrid with manual transmission)
I saw the title and had to read, have a '98 championship white ITR back then I absolutely loved the engine, the chassis, rawness, and it's simple point A to B sharpness, utter brilliance.
I'm hoping it can be the same again, and not some mild ec-friendly hybrid/EV affair.
Still possibly my favourite car and humble to have owned a new one back in the day.
I'm hoping it can be the same again, and not some mild ec-friendly hybrid/EV affair.
Still possibly my favourite car and humble to have owned a new one back in the day.
SuperPav said:
Grew up with loads of these (JDM imports) - where's the coupe thing coming from? I'm certain the vast majority of these were always 4 door.
In the 90's it was just the next size/step up from a Civic. I don't expect this one to be any different in that regard.
They've got enough SUV/crossover model names with equity (esp. in USA) so I reckon this will be more "car" than SUV.
What will be interesting is if this model is a US development or a Japan development. If the former, there is no chance it will be coming over to Europe.
You must have fallen under a rock sometime before the millenium. The DC2 Integra type R coupe was sold in the UK long after the demise of the pop-up headlighted saloon from the 80's and is raved about to this day. The mundane later ones never made it here.In the 90's it was just the next size/step up from a Civic. I don't expect this one to be any different in that regard.
They've got enough SUV/crossover model names with equity (esp. in USA) so I reckon this will be more "car" than SUV.
What will be interesting is if this model is a US development or a Japan development. If the former, there is no chance it will be coming over to Europe.
I wonder if this will be the car the CR-Z should have been- low down electric power and a screaming redline as a farewell to a great legacy.
Edited by glazbagun on Friday 13th August 18:10
GroundEffect said:
Had two of the real things.
- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
Couldn't agree more with the bit in bold. I absolutely adored my white DC2, as a lad in his late 20s, it was just a perfect car, so accomplished, amazing engine and gearbox, and just so yobbish It is probably still the best car I've ever owned. I wouldn't have another, but I would love to have just one more hoon in one.- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
TameRacingDriver said:
GroundEffect said:
Had two of the real things.
- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
Couldn't agree more with the bit in bold. I absolutely adored my white DC2, as a lad in his late 20s, it was just a perfect car, so accomplished, amazing engine and gearbox, and just so yobbish It is probably still the best car I've ever owned. I wouldn't have another, but I would love to have just one more hoon in one.- A 1999 Milano Red UK DC2
- A 2001 Championship White UK DC2
The first one was my first performance car and I dearly loved it, especially as I was living in Scotland at the time and could make use of it. I was 21 when I got it. The 2nd I was 27 when I got it as I had to downgrade from a Z4M to buy a house. That one, I didn't fall back in love in the same way. Living in the South East, being a "grown up" driving to the office every day at 7am, it started to grate. They are a car for a time and place.
Still, as far as FWD go, I haven't driven better. Use the diff to your advantage.
GroundEffect said:
They're fantastic drivers cars, but quite poor day to day (all parts of NVH were on HIGH). The Z4M was not as good a drivers car but had its own charm, whilst being comfortable and well appointed.
I can see why they didn't do a Type R of the NSX - no one really wants to have their bones shaked in a car you might use a lot of the time. And the NSX is trying to be the everyday supercar.
Yep the lightness makes them feel poorly made with the lack of soundproofing and dreary interior, very much a car made for driving hard only. I can see why they didn't do a Type R of the NSX - no one really wants to have their bones shaked in a car you might use a lot of the time. And the NSX is trying to be the everyday supercar.
Jonstar said:
GroundEffect said:
They're fantastic drivers cars, but quite poor day to day (all parts of NVH were on HIGH). The Z4M was not as good a drivers car but had its own charm, whilst being comfortable and well appointed.
I can see why they didn't do a Type R of the NSX - no one really wants to have their bones shaked in a car you might use a lot of the time. And the NSX is trying to be the everyday supercar.
Yep the lightness makes them feel poorly made with the lack of soundproofing and dreary interior, very much a car made for driving hard only. I can see why they didn't do a Type R of the NSX - no one really wants to have their bones shaked in a car you might use a lot of the time. And the NSX is trying to be the everyday supercar.
Some people like the complete opposite of that but that's just fine also.
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