The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)
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Clappedoutvolvo said:
Does anyone have any experience of peugeot 307s of around 2007-2012 vintage?
They seem mega cheap and I'm after a cheap estate. Some of them are low mileage and specced up nicely too.
1.6 diesel or petrol seems to be the only option
Yes..! They seem mega cheap and I'm after a cheap estate. Some of them are low mileage and specced up nicely too.
1.6 diesel or petrol seems to be the only option
I have a 2007 307 hatch. It’s a 1.6 petrol (TU5JP4 engine I believe) and is boringly reliable….
It’s easy to work on (though I’ve only really done brakes, suspension and standard servicing). There’s a reasonable amount of content on them on YouTube, including one chap who did quite a lot to his estate version when his channel was updated: https://youtube.com/@isitfixedyet891?si=chGmdL6GLq...
Based on my experience I would recommend.
Edited by OMITN on Thursday 7th March 19:30
OMITN said:
Clappedoutvolvo said:
Does anyone have any experience of peugeot 307s of around 2007-2012 vintage?
They seem mega cheap and I'm after a cheap estate. Some of them are low mileage and specced up nicely too.
1.6 diesel or petrol seems to be the only option
Yes..! They seem mega cheap and I'm after a cheap estate. Some of them are low mileage and specced up nicely too.
1.6 diesel or petrol seems to be the only option
I have a 2007 307 hatch. It’s a 1.6 petrol (TU5JP4 engine I believe) and is boringly reliable….
It’s easy to work on (though I’ve only really done brakes, suspension and standard servicing). There’s a reasonable amount of content on them on YouTube, including one chap who did quite a lot to his estate version when his channel was updated: https://youtube.com/@isitfixedyet891?si=chGmdL6GLq...
Based on my experience I would recommend.
That's the TU engine though, which are coarse at higher RPM, but very solid. I'd have one of those. Or a 2.0 diesel, ideally with the DW10 engine. That's a fab engine, and I'm getting to think they are, or were better than the Volvo D5 (Ahhhhhhhhh!), but the 1.6 DV6 was designed down the pub by a bunch of drunk French bureaucrats one Friday night, and should be avoided. (When the injectors are at the front) It was only >2011 or so they changed the injectors to the back, so I was assuming the reference to 307 actually meant 308, which was the contemporary design.
Edited by OMITN on Thursday 7th March 19:30
bearman68 said:
BenS94 said:
carinaman said:
bearman68 said:
If you can find one with 90 bhp 1.6 dv6, with the injectors at the front of the engine, they will be fine, but otherwise all engines options except the 2.0 diesel are terrible.
Please remind me, the ones to go for are the ones with injectors at the back or at the front? 
Injectors at the front = trouble. Injectors at the BACK = no problem.
I am so sorry for the error. I hope you haven't gone and bought the wrong type?
Great advice re. the peugeots, thank you!
I did indeed not realise they changed them from 307 to 308, they look very similar... I thought the 308 was the much newer model from around 2014!
The petrol sounds like it could be an easier prospect - does the reliable "TU" unit feature in the newer 308's as well? Branded as a VTi I believe.. I have seen the 207 SW also comes with this engine which could also be in with a shout.
These seem peanuts, obviously an incredibly boring topic of discussion but they just appeared on my radar after a few weeks of casually browsing auto trader and getting bored of the old knackers for shed money. If reliable These actually look great value.
I would of course still consider the derv if it's not too much trouble to determine the engine is the good/better version before travelling, if local then no problem to check.
I did indeed not realise they changed them from 307 to 308, they look very similar... I thought the 308 was the much newer model from around 2014!
The petrol sounds like it could be an easier prospect - does the reliable "TU" unit feature in the newer 308's as well? Branded as a VTi I believe.. I have seen the 207 SW also comes with this engine which could also be in with a shout.
These seem peanuts, obviously an incredibly boring topic of discussion
but they just appeared on my radar after a few weeks of casually browsing auto trader and getting bored of the old knackers for shed money. If reliable These actually look great value. I would of course still consider the derv if it's not too much trouble to determine the engine is the good/better version before travelling, if local then no problem to check.
Clappedoutvolvo said:
I would of course still consider the derv if it's not too much trouble to determine the engine is the good/better version before travelling, if local then no problem to check.
It may be easier to do by model years. I don't know if the determining factor is earlier 16V have the injectors at the front and better, later ones with injectors at the back are 8V. I think looking at Autotrader the later ones have different BHP figures.The injectors are under the cam covers. The ones with the injectors on the front get carbon build up around them that contaminates the oil and can block the oil feed pipe to the turbo. Clappedoutvolvo said:
Great advice re. the peugeots, thank you!
The petrol sounds like it could be an easier prospect - does the reliable "TU" unit feature in the newer 308's as well? Branded as a VTi I believe.. I have seen the 207 SW also comes with this engine which could also be in with a shout.
These seem peanuts, obviously an incredibly boring topic of discussion but they just appeared on my radar after a few weeks of casually browsing auto trader and getting bored of the old knackers for shed money. If reliable These actually look great value.
So the VVti engine is pretty bad. It's chain driven, the VVT bit doesn't work, throws engine management lights, and is only made worse by putting a turbo on it. The petrol sounds like it could be an easier prospect - does the reliable "TU" unit feature in the newer 308's as well? Branded as a VTi I believe.. I have seen the 207 SW also comes with this engine which could also be in with a shout.
These seem peanuts, obviously an incredibly boring topic of discussion
but they just appeared on my radar after a few weeks of casually browsing auto trader and getting bored of the old knackers for shed money. If reliable These actually look great value. Fortunately, the engine is not the only bad thing. They are mated to a terrible gearbox, and in fact, it's normally the gear box that gives up first, snapping one of the internal drive shafts, resulting in no drive whatsoever.
Once you fix this, the engine will pack up, giving no drive whatsoever.
Pug's of this era are tricky little beasts, and IMO best avoided. The 1.4 hdi 207 is OK (not entirely gearbox trouble free, but not bad), and the engines are generally OK. Or try and look post 2011 / 2012.
Citroen actually introduced the decent engine a bit earlier, and if you can live with the looks, the 1.6 C3's about 2010 onwards are good value, typically about £1200 or so.
Most of the 90 bhp diesels from that period of time are DMF free, and DPF free as well, making them quite a good long term bet, for not much money.
Re Peugeots, I might be wrong here, but assumed the last ones worth buying had a number ending in a 6, 106, 206, 306, 406, all pretty decent cars in their time. Then came the 307 and it all started to go wrong. Anything ending in a 7 probably not good news!!! I was given a 206 1.4 a couple of years ago as a loan car and really liked driving it. Such a supple ride quality.
greenarrow said:
Re Peugeots, I might be wrong here, but assumed the last ones worth buying had a number ending in a 6, 106, 206, 306, 406, all pretty decent cars in their time. Then came the 307 and it all started to go wrong. Anything ending in a 7 probably not good news!!! I was given a 206 1.4 a couple of years ago as a loan car and really liked driving it. Such a supple ride quality.
107?Another "joy" moment, big shop last night, took the Shedvec as it is perfect for ASDA's "find the first space you see kind of parking"...you may also think, ASDA is the perfect place for mid 00's Vauxhall's also...
Anyway, came back to find what I can only think of as a lovely kiss mark from a passing shopping trolley!!
A proper gouged line across the rear side bumper, so much that it's moved the dirt a good few inches with it.... "absolute b
d's"...(I thought) - for a mere 10 seconds...
.....then forgot about it.
Anyway, came back to find what I can only think of as a lovely kiss mark from a passing shopping trolley!!
A proper gouged line across the rear side bumper, so much that it's moved the dirt a good few inches with it.... "absolute b
d's"...(I thought) - for a mere 10 seconds........then forgot about it.
Wife's astra J (bottom.of the range 1.6 auto) 14 years old.
The one we spent £3k on the gearbox because its a good car.
59k on the clock
Recently, it throws up the spanner light.
No codes stored on my cheap code reader.
Goes off when you stop the car
Comes back on about 20 seconds after starting it.
The car drives fine.
I wonder.
The one we spent £3k on the gearbox because its a good car.
59k on the clock
Recently, it throws up the spanner light.
No codes stored on my cheap code reader.
Goes off when you stop the car
Comes back on about 20 seconds after starting it.
The car drives fine.
I wonder.
The inherited Jazz threw an engine management light on the way home today. Been stuttering since Thursday when I filled up with Sainsbury petrol, but today it finally got worse. Won’t rev over 3k, and generally is a nightmare to drive.
Looks like I will need to book it in for someone to take a look at the codes.
Looks like I will need to book it in for someone to take a look at the codes.
Challo said:
The inherited Jazz threw an engine management light on the way home today. Been stuttering since Thursday when I filled up with Sainsbury petrol, but today it finally got worse. Won’t rev over 3k, and generally is a nightmare to drive.
Looks like I will need to book it in for someone to take a look at the codes.
Maybe only one of the spark plug wires needs changing ( if it has one Looks like I will need to book it in for someone to take a look at the codes.
)BenS94 said:
Challo said:
p4cks said:
Coil pack? Spark plug?
I changed the sparks last year, so potentially might be a coil pack. Challo said:
BenS94 said:
Challo said:
p4cks said:
Coil pack? Spark plug?
I changed the sparks last year, so potentially might be a coil pack. Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff