The Joy of Running an Old Shed (Vol 2)
Discussion
LR90 said:
The perceived wisdom on these is 2.0-litre—good, 1.6—bad.
The 2.0 is the legendary DW10 which I know bearman raves about. The 1.6 is the DLD which is supposedly good in 8v form, but not 16v.
I'm interested in a Peugeot 508 with this engine, FWIW. Planning on going to see it tomorrow, so I'll report back: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403037...
Yes the 508's are real shed contenders now, alot of car for the money these especially the SW one, pretty robust things from my limited research a few years back, compared to the previous 407SW anyway.The 2.0 is the legendary DW10 which I know bearman raves about. The 1.6 is the DLD which is supposedly good in 8v form, but not 16v.
I'm interested in a Peugeot 508 with this engine, FWIW. Planning on going to see it tomorrow, so I'll report back: https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202403037...
LR90 said:
The 2.0 is the legendary DW10
The DW10 is generally regarded as being a fairly tough old thing and there are plenty of taxi's running around with moon mileage but 'legendary' is probably going a little far, my experience is that they aren't as trouble free as old NA petrols.In the Mondeo common issues are the DPF cleaning fuel injector tends to gum up around 100K miles (Mine made it to 114K). Not a killer but a new one is about a £250. Dual mass flywheels can last as much as 250K miles but it is said to be more common to last about 140K (mine died pretty much spot on 140k). The guys who run these as Taxi say 200K for injectors and 300K for Turbos.
Decent but not about to out shed a Toyota petrol.
I've just had to replace an injector seal at 160K. Not big money (a set of 4 is £15) but had to be done before I gave myself carbon monoxide poisoning
May have been mentioned way back in in this thread before, Audi A2 1.4Tdi 75, top shedding in a versatile tiny package with tardis like loads lugging ability. Mine now on 266k miles, original clutch, turbo, intercooler, still returning way intonthe 60s+ mpg. In fact 74mpg on a recent 400 mile round trip with an engine in the back on the return leg 
Remap the little 3 pot PD lump for more usable rev range and the aluminium chassis delivers a remarkably taught and entertaining drive.
Remap the little 3 pot PD lump for more usable rev range and the aluminium chassis delivers a remarkably taught and entertaining drive.
May have been mentioned way back in in this thread before, Audi A2 1.4Tdi 75, top shedding in a versatile tiny package with tardis like loads lugging ability. Mine now on 266k miles, original clutch, turbo, intercooler, still returning way intonthe 60s+ mpg. In fact 74mpg on a recent 400 mile round trip with an engine in the back on the return leg
Remap the little 3 pot PD lump for more usable rev range and the aluminium chassis delivers a remarkably taught and entertaining drive.
Remap the little 3 pot PD lump for more usable rev range and the aluminium chassis delivers a remarkably taught and entertaining drive.
greenarrow said:
Last of the good Mondeos IMO. I know they have their fans, but IMO the MK5 was a step backward. Too large, too bland to look at, and a bit off the pace. I remember a number of road testers also questioning where the legendary handling/ride balance had gone.
My neighbour had one of the first Mondeo MK4s back in 2007, it was a 1.8 TD. I remember being gobsmacked at how smoothly it rode and how quiet it was inside compared with my 5-year-old VAG 1.9 PD diesel. The only negative for me was that I felt the Mondeo just got a little bit too big in Mk4 guise. The MK3 was very roomy inside and for me the limit of how long and wide I want my family car to be...
I've often been tempted by a MK5, the tech level is fantastic with adaptive xenons etc - but nowhere near as reliable by many accounts. The 2015 onwards DW10 has been an ally block and they do give trouble with pumps and injectors. This one has done its job fantastic with minimal broken bits, mostly just replacement of worn-out things and some preventative maintenance. We ran it alongside a 1.9 Passat which felt agricultural in comparison, though you can tell the Mondeo is geared for emissions compared and doesn't have the same feel of solidity to the doors etc.My neighbour had one of the first Mondeo MK4s back in 2007, it was a 1.8 TD. I remember being gobsmacked at how smoothly it rode and how quiet it was inside compared with my 5-year-old VAG 1.9 PD diesel. The only negative for me was that I felt the Mondeo just got a little bit too big in Mk4 guise. The MK3 was very roomy inside and for me the limit of how long and wide I want my family car to be...
7 5 7 said:
Quite a few around that price now, looking around on AT similar age/mileage even at dealers - a mixture of 1.6TDCI's and the 20TDCI's
What are these like on injectors and other diesel delicacies? I am quite tempted as a shed replacement, but the petrol ones are neigh on bulletproof for simple motorway plodding imo, but agree some of the diesels are quite happily carrying on too.
I have run mine for over 4 years, and the choice of 2.0 was deliberate - the 1.8 TDCi Ford engine is known for wet belt issues, injector issues, and high-pressure pump issues. The 2.0 Peugeot engine has a single camwheel dry belt with a 10-year / 200,000km replacement interval, and the rest is very reliable.What are these like on injectors and other diesel delicacies? I am quite tempted as a shed replacement, but the petrol ones are neigh on bulletproof for simple motorway plodding imo, but agree some of the diesels are quite happily carrying on too.
268k miles is still on the original clutch and DMF.
Mine will need a PAS pump soon as it's groaning away. It got an alternator before I bought it, and it's just been the normal stuff - suspension, brakes, wheel bearings. Touch wood, it's never broken down. the EGR stepper motor spring broke last year so I blanked it and my mate blanked the codes from the ECU so the DPF still works fine. I replaced the vaporiser in 2020 with an eBay special. I fitted some H&R lowering springs to it when the back springs broke coils off, and replaced the front shocks then. I've new ones to go in soon, but she keeps plodding along, just oil and filter every 8k to keep it happy.
S8QUATTRO said:
2009 635d…I don’t class mine as a shed but it’s not expensive and it’s paid for with big miles - not worth a lot with high miles …. 
I remember when they came out thinking they were butt ugly but they’ve aged wonderfully and I now think what a handsome brute. My neighbour in Spain had a manual one. Didn’t even know they produced one. Gorgeous car but £15k worth for one like yours over there.
Evoman said:
May have been mentioned way back in in this thread before, Audi A2 1.4Tdi 75, top shedding in a versatile tiny package with tardis like loads lugging ability. Mine now on 266k miles, original clutch, turbo, intercooler, still returning way intonthe 60s+ mpg. In fact 74mpg on a recent 400 mile round trip with an engine in the back on the return leg
Remap the little 3 pot PD lump for more usable rev range and the aluminium chassis delivers a remarkably taught and entertaining drive.
Running one too. 216k miles on it so far. Great wee cars.Remap the little 3 pot PD lump for more usable rev range and the aluminium chassis delivers a remarkably taught and entertaining drive.
7 5 7 said:
Pit Pony said:
Okay, I serviced the b
d on Sunday, New oil, oil and air filters and new spark plugs.
We now have a problem in addition to the spanner light, which has no fault codes showing.
The radiator fan, is rapidly turning most of the time. Within 10 seconds of starting. Goes off after about a minute then 10 seconds later comes on again. Then stays going for 2 or 3 minutes , then goes off again. I ran out of time, to diagnose it and instead unplugged it, but that's not a solution.
Ideas ?
Car drives fine.
My Vauxhall spanner light was the thermostat stuck open, it drove fine also, but could be anything.d on Sunday, New oil, oil and air filters and new spark plugs. We now have a problem in addition to the spanner light, which has no fault codes showing.
The radiator fan, is rapidly turning most of the time. Within 10 seconds of starting. Goes off after about a minute then 10 seconds later comes on again. Then stays going for 2 or 3 minutes , then goes off again. I ran out of time, to diagnose it and instead unplugged it, but that's not a solution.
Ideas ?
Car drives fine.
Shame on the Astra J's you can't do the "pedal test" like on the previous H, where you can count the EML flashes to get your code.
Edited by 7 5 7 on Monday 18th March 23:07
Never let me down .
The window regulator for my 'new' Mondeo arrived last week, so went to change it at the weekend.
It's obviously had some attention before, as the vapour barrier in the door was badly butchered with no attempt to make good.
I had the old regulator out before I realised that the breaker had sent me a nearside where I needed offside - so had to stick the old one back in, bodged to the closed position. Another replacement on the way, this time the photos definitely show the right one, which is the right one.
While playing with the radio and getting my phone paired the 'low battery' warning came up, but the car still starts and the battery voltage shows that it's charging OK. I reset the battery management system and will keep an eye on it.
I dried out the headlamp. It had the back cover off, so either that was the cause of the water ingress, or opened to aid drying out. Looks like the latter, as a week later it's wet inside again. I'll run some silicone around the join over the weekend which should hopefully fix it.
Off for the first long run tomorrow (350+ mile round trip), so hopefully that won't uncover any surprises.
It's obviously had some attention before, as the vapour barrier in the door was badly butchered with no attempt to make good.
I had the old regulator out before I realised that the breaker had sent me a nearside where I needed offside - so had to stick the old one back in, bodged to the closed position. Another replacement on the way, this time the photos definitely show the right one, which is the right one.
While playing with the radio and getting my phone paired the 'low battery' warning came up, but the car still starts and the battery voltage shows that it's charging OK. I reset the battery management system and will keep an eye on it.
I dried out the headlamp. It had the back cover off, so either that was the cause of the water ingress, or opened to aid drying out. Looks like the latter, as a week later it's wet inside again. I'll run some silicone around the join over the weekend which should hopefully fix it.
Off for the first long run tomorrow (350+ mile round trip), so hopefully that won't uncover any surprises.
Purchased a warranted air compressor from a great feedback, long established and recommended eBay salvage place, next day delivery- was super happy then this abomination arrived -
Loom chopped about two inches from a multi plug
P1ss wet through
And the air hoses hacked off
Savage rather than salvage, in defence they’ve arranged a parcel force collection tomorrow
Loom chopped about two inches from a multi plug
P1ss wet through
And the air hoses hacked off
Savage rather than salvage, in defence they’ve arranged a parcel force collection tomorrow
DSLiverpool said:
My accident buy Saab convertible is preferred over the new Merc EQC I bought 2 weeks ago.
The Saab reminds me of a simpler easy time in car design and the addition of a £7 FM modulator I can stream from my phone.
What's the range like now on EQCs? The Saab reminds me of a simpler easy time in car design and the addition of a £7 FM modulator I can stream from my phone.
A colleague of mine lives on the Suffolk coast and has clients all over the country.
He impulse bought an ex-demo EQC three years ago, and then discovered to his horror that it did 203 miles in summer with a light right foot before running out of electrons. Fewer in winter. One of the main ports he has to visit is Goole (near Hull). It is 203 miles from his office.
After 15 months of frustration he sold the EQC and bought a hybrid GLC300e, out of which he gets about 85 miles on battery. The driver delivering the car reported getting over 100, but my colleague has a heavier right foot, it would seem.
PS - I drive a 2002 Saab 9-5, and love its analogue nature.
As well as the Tesla we run a 2009 Hyundai i30. We only need 2 cars for a few days a month so it has had a couple of spells of just sitting there.
Mot is up mid April and with an ever lengthening list of jobs it needs both for the MOT and for being drivable, we’ve decided to weigh it when the ticket runs out. So 3 weeks of using it as a van to clear crap from the garage and the garden then into the bin.
This was our first foray back into shedding. I quite like it, but there is an element of luck in not having a cluster of faults / consumables all at once. At least the new stuff has manifested itself this side of the MOT rather than straight after.
Mot is up mid April and with an ever lengthening list of jobs it needs both for the MOT and for being drivable, we’ve decided to weigh it when the ticket runs out. So 3 weeks of using it as a van to clear crap from the garage and the garden then into the bin.
This was our first foray back into shedding. I quite like it, but there is an element of luck in not having a cluster of faults / consumables all at once. At least the new stuff has manifested itself this side of the MOT rather than straight after.
tim jb said:
YellowCar said:
It's obviously had some attention before, as the vapour barrier in the door was badly butchered with no attempt to make good.
Any signs of water ingress...?But no sign of ingress at the moment even in the crappy weather of the last couple of weeks. I'll tape the vapour barrier back together this weekend when I fit the next regulator if it arrives (delivery by Evri!).
Otherwise it took a 350 mile round trip from Norfolk to Surrey in its stride yesterday, averaging 68 mpg over a mix of Norfolk A roads (which are more like B roads in much of the country) dual carriageway, and motorway.
Been put to proper shed use with a tip run at the far end, followed by a full load on the return trip.
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