Strange driving annoyances
Discussion
theplayingmantis said:
1. says you. who made you road police
2. i do this. Lots of folk take an age/hesitant to go at temp traffic lights that are single lane, imo it encourages them to go and worse case i have to pull over again.
3. why whats wrong with that? i think its admirable they are adhering to said speed limits. Are you someone who slows well in advance and eases off hundreds of yards behind holding everyone up so as not to have to break then conversely speeds up before the limit increases again, thus breaking said limit? or just dawdle once past the limit increase again annoying everyone in your wake?
Think those 3 say a lot about your own driving!
Brake.2. i do this. Lots of folk take an age/hesitant to go at temp traffic lights that are single lane, imo it encourages them to go and worse case i have to pull over again.
3. why whats wrong with that? i think its admirable they are adhering to said speed limits. Are you someone who slows well in advance and eases off hundreds of yards behind holding everyone up so as not to have to break then conversely speeds up before the limit increases again, thus breaking said limit? or just dawdle once past the limit increase again annoying everyone in your wake?
Think those 3 say a lot about your own driving!
Braking.
crosseyedlion said:
1. People who do not understand that it’s incredibly difficult to see a small hand gesture, then get pissy when you don’t pull out in front of them.
2. Those that despite seeing me in the unobstructed lane when there is a line of parked cars, pull out into my lane to get passed and force me to stop. Even worse is when they do it because the car in front did (only annoyed if they can obviously see me)
3. Those who que to overtake
4. Those who use the left lane for exit 2 of 2 on a roundabout when there is only 1 lane for exit.
2. Those that despite seeing me in the unobstructed lane when there is a line of parked cars, pull out into my lane to get passed and force me to stop. Even worse is when they do it because the car in front did (only annoyed if they can obviously see me)
3. Those who que to overtake
4. Those who use the left lane for exit 2 of 2 on a roundabout when there is only 1 lane for exit.
When you're waiting at a wide T junction, and someone wanting to turn the opposite way to you pulls all the way up alongside you, blocking your view of the road. So now you have to wait for them to go before you can.
Now I sit right in the middle so they can't fit round.
Also when someone wants to turn right into a side road and there's a special painted box for them to wait in, in the centre of the road, but instead they just sit in the middle of the lane forcing you to stop and wait for them
Now I sit right in the middle so they can't fit round.
Also when someone wants to turn right into a side road and there's a special painted box for them to wait in, in the centre of the road, but instead they just sit in the middle of the lane forcing you to stop and wait for them
There's a number of irritating things nominated on this thread that would elicit a "Ey up we've got Max Verstappen ahead" as they're clearly going to need a lot of room in case of an overtake opportunity.
On the matter of letting folks out of side turnings, only time I do it is in stop start queues and only then if I'm already stopped. If already rolling they can wait. Plus never a flash, as someone else pointed out too often it's not interpreted as after you but "yes you can go and I've checked for all possible hazards on your behalf for a radius of two miles so gun it NOW!"
Actually these days I get most annoyed, usually in Bewdley as it happens, by effing taxis stopping on zig zags and sometimes the crossings themselves to drop and pick up fares. Yes Regency, you f
kers need a thorough kicking. Next time you're stood right outside the Horn and Trumpet just round the blind junction on the crossing itself I hope you get a well deserved sideswipe.
On the matter of letting folks out of side turnings, only time I do it is in stop start queues and only then if I'm already stopped. If already rolling they can wait. Plus never a flash, as someone else pointed out too often it's not interpreted as after you but "yes you can go and I've checked for all possible hazards on your behalf for a radius of two miles so gun it NOW!"
Actually these days I get most annoyed, usually in Bewdley as it happens, by effing taxis stopping on zig zags and sometimes the crossings themselves to drop and pick up fares. Yes Regency, you f
kers need a thorough kicking. Next time you're stood right outside the Horn and Trumpet just round the blind junction on the crossing itself I hope you get a well deserved sideswipe. Oh yes there's another Bewdley one, on Stourport Road, near Bewdley school, there are a couple of those narrow sections where traffic travelling towards town has to give way to opposing vehicles. There are give way lines painted on the road for the give way direction, signs in both directions telling drivers who has priority, yet heading into town you slow down, stop at the line, only for someone with priority to also stop and look at you with that dull eyed vacant expression wondering why you haven't moved.
Apologies for a couple of parochial posts.
Apologies for a couple of parochial posts.
People not using bus lanes when out of stated operating hours, doesn't bother me as I get a free lane to myself, just odd and even odder there is a bus lane near me which is suspended currently, there are big yellow and black signs stating "BUS LANE SUSPENDED USE BOTH LANES", still hardly anyone uses it:
Edited by HTP99 on Monday 6th December 09:06
JagYouAre said:
1. People who pull out in front of you when the gap is clearly not big enough (making you brake) and then proceed to drive at 20mph below the limit - extra points given when there is absolutely nobody behind you and they could have just waited a few extra seconds.
2. Similar to the phantom braking above, people who brake whenever a car comes past the other way, even on roads wide enough for three cars. Seems to happen especially at night - nervous driver I guess?
Totally agree with #1. 2. Similar to the phantom braking above, people who brake whenever a car comes past the other way, even on roads wide enough for three cars. Seems to happen especially at night - nervous driver I guess?
My others are:
Lack of indication, or late indication - usually after they have already started turning.
Lack of lane discipline on a roundabout or junction.
Stopping suddenly and without warning to let people out of side road, without looking in your rear mirrors first to see the line of motor vehicles behind you (the ‘where did you come from? Cretins).
Miss-use of a merge In turn, especially when it blocks an entire feeder roundabout - which was why the designers put in two lanes for a 100m.
Lack of anticipation on a motorway, when it’s clearly obvious to the moron, that the car to your left is going to crash into a slower car in front, yet you continue to match speed instead of pulling into the empty lane to your right.
Sitting in the middle Lane and then speeding up, when anyone starts to overtake you.
Hammerhead said:
Psycho Warren said:
Motorbikes who take the piss with filtering.
Typical example is on a standard 2 lane 2 way road, one lane queing, the oncoming lane free of traffic. In that situation it is NOT filtering, it is overtaking, especially when your bike needs to be the wrong side of the line and basically in my lane. Yet so many expect me to slow down and swerve towards the kerb to make room for them when i clearly have priority.
Im all for being "bike aware" and making room where reasonable and practical but too many take the piss.
It is not taking the piss. It's what you're trained/told to do whilst getting your bike license, assuming the queing traffic is stopped/crawling. If the queing/back log of traffic is moving at 'normal' speed, then yes, you may have a point.Typical example is on a standard 2 lane 2 way road, one lane queing, the oncoming lane free of traffic. In that situation it is NOT filtering, it is overtaking, especially when your bike needs to be the wrong side of the line and basically in my lane. Yet so many expect me to slow down and swerve towards the kerb to make room for them when i clearly have priority.
Im all for being "bike aware" and making room where reasonable and practical but too many take the piss.
s.Do realise it's a different situation to that described by PW though.
HTP99 said:
People not using bus lanes when out of stated operating hours, doesn't bother me as I get a free lane to myself, just odd and even odder there is a bus lane near me which is suspended currently, there are big yellow and black signs stating "BUS LANE SUSPENDED USE BOTH LANES", still hardly anyone uses it:
I think most people have a deep mistrust of bus lane management after receiving tickets for the most minor of infringements and hence don't go near them in case they either misread the exceptions, or they put a wheel in the lane when it becomes active again.Edited by HTP99 on Monday 6th December 09:06
Certainly the case for me. TFL have made me bus lane averse to the point I won't stray into one for an ambulance etc.
It's a bit saddening there is so much ire over letting people out at tricky junctions. There is one at the end of my drive (private road joining main road, parallel with minor road joining main road too). I get to see all variables on a daily basis as I'm either stuck trying to get out, letting someone else out, or , stuck getting out of the parallel road, letting someone get out of same, or, in the passing traffic in either direction, either passing, or behind others who are doing all of the above.
First off, in morning rush hour you simply cannot exit our drive without someone actively letting you out. The traffic is either passing at 40 ish, or, at 10. When trundling by slowly everyone just stares ahead. If it slows to a stop to let someone turn into the other side of the road then the traffic in front of me stops across the front of my car, still staring ahead, then resumes, without letting you out!
I have had to put my hand out of the window holding it up to signal stop to get out of our drive before. It's that bad.
So.... I , and a good chunk of others , make the effort to let others out when passing our junction.
Of course, often, the person you are letting out is looking the other way. You can't look both ways at the same time. When this happens I continue on. It's not their "fault", and I don't come to a stop but slow down and flash.
If there was no give and take our junction would simply clog up with a massive queue
First off, in morning rush hour you simply cannot exit our drive without someone actively letting you out. The traffic is either passing at 40 ish, or, at 10. When trundling by slowly everyone just stares ahead. If it slows to a stop to let someone turn into the other side of the road then the traffic in front of me stops across the front of my car, still staring ahead, then resumes, without letting you out!
I have had to put my hand out of the window holding it up to signal stop to get out of our drive before. It's that bad.
So.... I , and a good chunk of others , make the effort to let others out when passing our junction.
Of course, often, the person you are letting out is looking the other way. You can't look both ways at the same time. When this happens I continue on. It's not their "fault", and I don't come to a stop but slow down and flash.
If there was no give and take our junction would simply clog up with a massive queue
Griffith4ever said:
It's a bit saddening there is so much ire over letting people out at tricky junctions. There is one at the end of my drive (private road joining main road, parallel with minor road joining main road too). I get to see all variables on a daily basis as I'm either stuck trying to get out, letting someone else out, or , stuck getting out of the parallel road, letting someone get out of same, or, in the passing traffic in either direction, either passing, or behind others who are doing all of the above.
First off, in morning rush hour you simply cannot exit our drive without someone actively letting you out. The traffic is either passing at 40 ish, or, at 10. When trundling by slowly everyone just stares ahead. If it slows to a stop to let someone turn into the other side of the road then the traffic in front of me stops across the front of my car, still staring ahead, then resumes, without letting you out!
I have had to put my hand out of the window holding it up to signal stop to get out of our drive before. It's that bad.
So.... I , and a good chunk of others , make the effort to let others out when passing our junction.
Of course, often, the person you are letting out is looking the other way. You can't look both ways at the same time. When this happens I continue on. It's not their "fault", and I don't come to a stop but slow down and flash.
If there was no give and take our junction would simply clog up with a massive queue
We actually decided against choosing a particular house last year on the grounds that it would be too difficult/dangerous to pull out of the road in rush hour.First off, in morning rush hour you simply cannot exit our drive without someone actively letting you out. The traffic is either passing at 40 ish, or, at 10. When trundling by slowly everyone just stares ahead. If it slows to a stop to let someone turn into the other side of the road then the traffic in front of me stops across the front of my car, still staring ahead, then resumes, without letting you out!
I have had to put my hand out of the window holding it up to signal stop to get out of our drive before. It's that bad.
So.... I , and a good chunk of others , make the effort to let others out when passing our junction.
Of course, often, the person you are letting out is looking the other way. You can't look both ways at the same time. When this happens I continue on. It's not their "fault", and I don't come to a stop but slow down and flash.
If there was no give and take our junction would simply clog up with a massive queue
If it affects that many of you then get some measures put in place.
Thing is though, some years ago on an annual re-assessment drive I let someone out of a side turning when we were in a 10mph camel train of traffic and they weren't going to get out in ages. Didn't stop, even close, to it but saw what was happening ahead and just gradually increased the gap to make space for them to merge into the queue, which they did. Got a bking for that in the debrief, basis being if we then had to go somewhere in a hurry it was just one more in front. You accept the comment but privately thought it a bit off.
king for that in the debrief, basis being if we then had to go somewhere in a hurry it was just one more in front. You accept the comment but privately thought it a bit off.Not sure this is entirely strange but people who literally drive in the opposite lane to the one they should when on a roundabout.
Two roundabouts near me, I'd say 80% of the traffic turning right goes in the left lane and goes all the way round to the right. Despite there being an exit left and an exit ahead. To the point where if you go in the right hand lane to turn right you're somehow in the wrong and get pushed out.
The other is a roundabout along the same road (A23) where there's a left lane and a right and a left exit and a right. Yet not uncommon to see people take the right lane then swing round to the left to go straight into the outside. No markers to indicate this either!
Two roundabouts near me, I'd say 80% of the traffic turning right goes in the left lane and goes all the way round to the right. Despite there being an exit left and an exit ahead. To the point where if you go in the right hand lane to turn right you're somehow in the wrong and get pushed out.
The other is a roundabout along the same road (A23) where there's a left lane and a right and a left exit and a right. Yet not uncommon to see people take the right lane then swing round to the left to go straight into the outside. No markers to indicate this either!
nikaiyo2 said:
2 lane motorway slip roads, why do people feel the need to guard the outside lane whilst "accelerating" to 45mph, whilst there is nothing at all in lane 1?
Agreed if it's only to 45mph, however would you still object if they accelerated to, say, 60ish, in order to give best chance to merge with the heavies, or 70 if lane 1 looks clear?Presumably they've been previously disadvantaged by some arse piling down the offside and then preventing them from joining lane 1.
crosseyedlion said:
We actually decided against choosing a particular house last year on the grounds that it would be too difficult/dangerous to pull out of the road in rush hour.
If it affects that many of you then get some measures put in place.
Such as? :-)If it affects that many of you then get some measures put in place.
You are talking about highways england / local council here!
So far , the measures they have taken
- refuse all planning permission / developments on our drive/road that would increase traffic (fair enough)
- reduce the speed limit on the A road from 50 to 40 (makes it less arse-clenching when sitting waiting to turn off the main road with people approaching your rear and then swinging round at the last second) - but hasn't eased the junction. Plod does the odd speed check here and there.
- Build a 2000 home estate 2 miles down the road with NO allowance for the increased traffic - Oh how we can't wait for that to start filling up! We are sat between the 2000 homes and a MacDonalds..............
Just the way it is. I get to live somewhere nice, just with as rubbish junction. So I share the "care" and let others in and out of the junction
our local tesco/petrol station has 2 small car parks each end, probably 20-25 cars in total.
people are too lazy to drive and walk that extra 5m and park their car AT THE PUMP and go shopping.
my other half was sitting behind one parked at an angle at the pump with no way out and a car behind her waiting to get to the pumps while the guy slowly did his shopping and came out.
just grinds my gears, the selfishness is just unbelievable sometimes.
people are too lazy to drive and walk that extra 5m and park their car AT THE PUMP and go shopping.
my other half was sitting behind one parked at an angle at the pump with no way out and a car behind her waiting to get to the pumps while the guy slowly did his shopping and came out.
just grinds my gears, the selfishness is just unbelievable sometimes.
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