Strange driving annoyances

Strange driving annoyances

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Psycho Warren

3,087 posts

114 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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The annoying one since COVID is the number of people who just run red lights and then have a trail of sheep following them through on red when the other direction has been green for several seconds already.

And by far the most annoying is que jumpers. Notice it alot lately where there is a long line of traffic waiting to turn right or straight ahead, and some entitled bell end, usually in a german saloon, roars up the empty lane then swerves in at the top of the que.

Problem is too many people just let them go rather than defend their space. Such entitled fools rely on the fact many will let them in to get away with it. If people always blocked them when they did this, then they would soon learn a lesson, or take the suicidal approach of swerve and expect others to move - which would result in them quickly destroying their insurance no claims.

FiF

44,116 posts

252 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Gad-Westy said:
3. People who don't cling to the centre line when turning right at a busy t-junction meaning there is no room for the car behind to slide past to make an easier left turn.
Whilst the other 4 items posted were very valid ones, as is no3 quoted above, I'd like to add a little extra to this one.

People who, when you're at the give way line turning right out of a one way street and therefore over on the RHS of the road, then drive up alongside on your left, thus both blocking your view to the left and stopping other traffic who want to turn left from proceeding. What do they use to keep their ears apart?

theplayingmantis

3,803 posts

83 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Fast and Spurious said:
theplayingmantis said:
1. says you. who made you road police
2. i do this. Lots of folk take an age/hesitant to go at temp traffic lights that are single lane, imo it encourages them to go and worse case i have to pull over again.
3. why whats wrong with that? i think its admirable they are adhering to said speed limits. Are you someone who slows well in advance and eases off hundreds of yards behind holding everyone up so as not to have to break then conversely speeds up before the limit increases again, thus breaking said limit? or just dawdle once past the limit increase again annoying everyone in your wake?

Think those 3 say a lot about your own driving!
Brake.
Braking.
Pistonheads, pedantry matters!

theplayingmantis

3,803 posts

83 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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HTP99 said:
People not using bus lanes when out of stated operating hours, doesn't bother me as I get a free lane to myself, just odd and even odder there is a bus lane near me which is suspended currently, there are big yellow and black signs stating "BUS LANE SUSPENDED USE BOTH LANES", still hardly anyone uses it:



Edited by HTP99 on Monday 6th December 09:06
ooh i was about to post that. Not using out of hours bus lanes and queuing in the non bus lane instead. Then getting pi*sy with you for the fact you are observant and have read the road signs why they queue 10 cars back like sheep, and they promptly BREAK the speed limit in the 30 zone to make up for your 'queue jumping'.

theplayingmantis

3,803 posts

83 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Griffith4ever said:
HTP99 said:
People not using bus lanes when out of stated operating hours, doesn't bother me as I get a free lane to myself, just odd and even odder there is a bus lane near me which is suspended currently, there are big yellow and black signs stating "BUS LANE SUSPENDED USE BOTH LANES", still hardly anyone uses it:



Edited by HTP99 on Monday 6th December 09:06
I think most people have a deep mistrust of bus lane management after receiving tickets for the most minor of infringements and hence don't go near them in case they either misread the exceptions, or they put a wheel in the lane when it becomes active again.

Certainly the case for me. TFL have made me bus lane averse to the point I won't stray into one for an ambulance etc.
I think your giving people undue credit. I think it's most people are completely unobservant and not paying enough attention.

Chubbyross

4,549 posts

86 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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theplayingmantis said:
HTP99 said:
People not using bus lanes when out of stated operating hours, doesn't bother me as I get a free lane to myself, just odd and even odder there is a bus lane near me which is suspended currently, there are big yellow and black signs stating "BUS LANE SUSPENDED USE BOTH LANES", still hardly anyone uses it:



Edited by HTP99 on Monday 6th December 09:06
ooh i was about to post that. Not using out of hours bus lanes and queuing in the non bus lane instead. Then getting pi*sy with you for the fact you are observant and have read the road signs why they queue 10 cars back like sheep, and they promptly BREAK the speed limit in the 30 zone to make up for your 'queue jumping'.
In defence of sheep, there are times driving in London when you simply don’t have time to read every single road sign - and sometimes there can be dozens. In those instances I’ve decided to remain sheeplike and stay out of bus lanes. Since the pandemic many new signs have sprung up in London to announce that roads are now closed to traffic. Many, many people have been caught out and fined, myself included. It’s just easier at times to avoid the risk.

woodnut67

359 posts

190 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Antony Moxey said:
No it doesn't you drama queen. Anyway, speaking of 'intense retinal burning' and night time driving, people who don't dip their headlights after you've overtaken them and leave the main beams. Do you think you're teaching me a lesson by trying to blind me, or was my completely foolish and reckless overtake done too quickly for you to operate the horn in time?

Oh, and rear fog lights on when it's not foggy.
Errrr squeeze me..........you're obviously medically qualified to determine I don't suffer from retinal hypersensitivity and who says I'm a driver?? rolleyes.

You'll be diagnosing me with tongue in cheek syndrome next!

theplayingmantis

3,803 posts

83 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Chubbyross said:
theplayingmantis said:
HTP99 said:
People not using bus lanes when out of stated operating hours, doesn't bother me as I get a free lane to myself, just odd and even odder there is a bus lane near me which is suspended currently, there are big yellow and black signs stating "BUS LANE SUSPENDED USE BOTH LANES", still hardly anyone uses it:



Edited by HTP99 on Monday 6th December 09:06
ooh i was about to post that. Not using out of hours bus lanes and queuing in the non bus lane instead. Then getting pi*sy with you for the fact you are observant and have read the road signs why they queue 10 cars back like sheep, and they promptly BREAK the speed limit in the 30 zone to make up for your 'queue jumping'.
In defence of sheep, there are times driving in London when you simply don’t have time to read every single road sign - and sometimes there can be dozens. In those instances I’ve decided to remain sheeplike and stay out of bus lanes. Since the pandemic many new signs have sprung up in London to announce that roads are now closed to traffic. Many, many people have been caught out and fined, myself included. It’s just easier at times to avoid the risk.
London all bets are off so excused. Too many bad drivers and crazies to do anything than drive like a proverbial mouse. Someone utilizing an out of hours bus lane and 'queue jumping' may annoy the wrong person. I have the pleasure if i need to pop into the office once in a while and brings me no pleasure, when typically i enjoy driving.

This issue happens to me on a bus lane in my market town. There are 4 or 5 large bus lane hours signs, of which the lane hours are a couple of hours peak morning and evening only.
There is the odd parked car near the end of its length when out of hours, so perhaps people will use that as an excuse, but it really isn't. It's annoying in and of itself, but what makes it worse is the perception of queue jumping and people racing to go past you again (the bus lane after a short period of length meets a lights controlled cross roads so left hand lane becomes no bus lane for a short yardage to allow people to turn left in bus lane hours (its not a major turn so few people actually turn left).
In non bus lane hours you can use it and its clear all the way to the lights even if lane 2 is backed well up typically, apart from the odd car actually turning left.

theplayingmantis

3,803 posts

83 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Johnnytheboy said:
Craig W said:
People who brake hard and immediately when entering a new speed limit zone.

For instance, a 40 to a 30 or a NSL to 40 zone, rather than ease off the accelerator 100 yards before the zone, perhaps changing down to assist with the slowing, and rolling down to the correct speed just slightly past the signs in a nice smooth manner they do the speed limit up to the sign and then apply the brakes, sometimes fairly hard to bring them down to the new limit. It really bothers me for no sensible reason.
Apparently it is us that are wrong!

theplayingmantis said:
3. why whats wrong with that? i think its admirable they are adhering to said speed limits. Are you someone who slows well in advance and eases off hundreds of yards behind holding everyone up so as not to have to break then conversely speeds up before the limit increases again, thus breaking said limit? or just dawdle once past the limit increase again annoying everyone in your wake?
rofl
As others have said you're perhaps a paid up member of the 40mph everywhere brigade? Plus slight difference in hundred vs hundreds...oh and you should not be bringing down speed to the limit after you are in said limit. Sensible, progressive braking a shirt distance in advance (i have not said slam on brakes), rather than easing off miles away and holding every one up.

theplayingmantis

3,803 posts

83 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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One more that not sure been mentioned, people not using both lanes to go straight across at a roundabout (despite the exit merging into one at the exit of said roundabout.) People will sit in one lane leaving the left lane empty despite arrows showing left and straight ahead. and right straight ahead for the right hand lane. The left hand lane is typically very quiet on 2 examples in my area, and again you get perceived as a queue jumper for using the left lane, and often have a flash and tailgate after the maneuver from someone who hasn't bothered to read the road and considers you a 'queue jumper'.

In my salad days i must admit occasionally jumping a queue in such a fashion when left is left only, but only if i was in a car with the means to get out promptly (and i mean much more promptly than 95% of other cars on the road) in the correct lane. I stopped that long ago as in hindsight is an accident waiting to happen, dangerous, illegal and tttish!


theplayingmantis

3,803 posts

83 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Johnnytheboy said:
Read the OP, your oddly aggressive post says a lot about you too.
Not sure it does. No intention meant must be taking it that way due my justified criticisms.

Was just highlighting your an example of many of other people issues mentioned on this thread. policing overtakes (do you flash and hoot when someone overtakes you where you have deemed it not safe, or speed up as they overtake you as well?!), not getting up to speed limits in a considerate time, either BREAKING speed limits by not slowing or holding others up by slowing well in advance, and dawdling at temp lights meaning few cars get through when had people been aware and in position they would have a far better traffic flow. and people could get on with their day.

Burgerbob

485 posts

78 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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When on a dual carriageway, roadworks ahead and one lane closes.

There is always a massive queue in the lane that stays open, with the lane that closes empty.

What then happens is some idiot decides to straddle both lanes to block the empty one.

All the idiot is doing is slowing down the traffic for everyone.

Where traffic is queuing and moving slowly you should use all available road space in both lanes with drivers at the front of the queues taking it in turns to 'merge in turn'. This can help reduce the overall length of the queue significantly and minimises the risk of disruption at junction.

Craig W

423 posts

160 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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I love how a forum for driving/car enthusiasts brings out so many people whose posting style suggests that they have never once broken a speed limit.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Craig W said:
I love how a forum for driving/car enthusiasts brings out so many people whose posting style suggests that they have never once broken a speed limit.
It certainly brings out the oddballs!

bigothunter

11,297 posts

61 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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996TT02 said:
Had a friend who would brake when approaching a green, because, you know, it might not remain green. Hated hated hated being a passenger with him.
But then crosses the junction on a marginal amber leaving those behind waiting needlessly on a red light rage

WelshRich

377 posts

58 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Driver pulls out to pass a parked car in their lane so is now head-to-head with me in my lane but plenty of space, say 50 feet away - Fine…

Aiming their car to get back into their lane by the position I’m currently at, seemingly oblivious to the fact that I’m also travelling towards them so that I now have to slow/brake unnecessarily - Annoying and increasingly the norm…




panholio

1,080 posts

149 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Interesting the comments on phantom braking. As common in timid flat cap pensioner types as it is tailgating salesmen on the motorway.

I was behind someone a couple of weeks ago who did a full on emergency stop for a magpie that was pecking at some roadkill.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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HustleRussell said:
Pothole said:
HustleRussell said:
Annoying me lately is people waiting to join a road from a side road etc, you slow and give them a signal to let them out, but for some reason they aren't in fact ready to go. Sometimes they are inexplicably staring the other way at the car coming from the other direction which is miles away. I have seen people position their cars on petrol station forecourt exits which appears very much that they are intending to leave but they're just sat there doing something else, phone etc. Or they're just generally incredibly slow and ponderous, and they don't go thinking the gap isn't big enough when it very certainly is by the standards of 99% of people.
Unless you're in a line of very slow moving traffic, why the fk are you doing this? There are lines across their lane for a reason. Take your priority and leave them to deal with getting out of the side road. I bet you don't check your mirror for bikers when you let them out either, do you?
Wow. Judgy and presumptuous.
Nope. Just "correct".

See a car waiting to turn out of a side road? Good. Now check all around for other potential hazards. Mirrors too. Done that? Good. What was in your mirrors? If the answer is "nothing" then carry on as you were because the waiting driver wil be able to slide out easily behind you. If the answer is "there are other cars following behind me" then carry on as you were because slowing/stopping to let out someone from a side turning may well be considerate to that one driver, it is actively inconsiderate to everyone following you. So stop doing it. As has been mentioned, 'Give Way' signs and lines define priority at junctions for good reason. Drive the road as it was designed to be driven. Exceptions obviously made in slow or stop/start traffic where there is no advantage to anyone to stick rigidly to marked priorities.

Even worse are the complete bellends who drive out of a side turn to turn right and block traffic coming toward me. Either trying to bully or blackmail me into stopping to let them out. Well newsflash! This only galvanises me into sticking to the priorities as marked at the junction.

Worst of all? people who stop to let meatheads out of one particular local junction, even when the driver exiting the junction is illegally making a right turn in contravention of a sign prohibiting such a turn because there's a roundabout literally spitting distance off to their left. Utter wkspangles the lot of them.

yellowjack

17,080 posts

167 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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Red9zero said:
People who won't/can't reverse 10ft, so you have to reverse 100ft. Also people who don't say thank you, especially if you have just reversed 100ft ...
hehe

I had one idiot who didn't want to 'Give Way' at a defined priority traffic calmed narrow bridge under a railway. Did that classic halfwit move of following other traffic through the gap but not close enough that I couldn't enter it in the direction of the 'priority Over Oncoming Traffic' arrow.

Cheeky fecker even had the brass neck to lean on his horn and wave at me to reverse.

So I got out of the car and locked it, and started to walk down the road on the footway past him. Cue the passenger window coming down and him screaming "what the fk do you think you're doing, you, effing effer?!?!" So I told him it was OK, I would walk the rest of the way and come back to move the car later. Weirdly this fixed the fault with his gear selector and he somehow managed to reverse to the 'Give Way' line where he needed to have stopped anyway.

I've also pulled out a newspaper and started to read it when some daft Doris has stopped with the rear end of her car literally overlapping a passing place but has insisted I reverse to one hundreds of yards behind me.

Bainbridge

154 posts

38 months

Monday 6th December 2021
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I get annoyed by people who pull out sharply in front of me onto a main road, then immediately hold me up by stopping in front of me to turn right.