Are there any plastic cars?

Are there any plastic cars?

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p4cks

6,919 posts

200 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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Weren't the doors of a Renault Espace plastic? I'm sure the front wings of Clio 172s are plastic too

kambites

67,593 posts

222 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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It depends on how you define "plastic".

Pure non-reinforced plastics are rarely used for external automotive panels but reinforced polymers such as GRP and CFRP (plastic reinforced with glass fibres and carbon fibres respectively) are often used. Additionally CFRP is also increasingly used for structural elements where GRP usually isn't.

If you count reinforced polymers, most Lotus cars have GRP bodies over an aluminium structure, and a number of cars have GRP over steel monocoques. Most supercars have CFRP monocoques these days and it's starting to trickle down into more affordable things (the BMW i3 being an example). A few older cars had GRP monocoques but I can't think of a recent one.

Edited by kambites on Sunday 17th October 09:22

Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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anonymous said:
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As has been discussed above, it depends in your definition of 'plastic'.

Glass fibre and carbon fibre are fibre reinforced plastics. Whether that means they remain 'plastics' or should be treated as something else is really a matter of personal opinion.

Personally, I think that the fibres transform them into something else (a composite material) that performs quite differently, but I wouldn't get all holier-than-thou with anyone who chooses to think differently.

Obviously no car is completely non-metallic; there are always going to be some components that are best manufactured in metal. We're talking about bodyshells and/or body/chassis structures.

Mr Squarekins

1,047 posts

63 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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Pistonheads love pictures. Here's my plastic i8. Body panels are plastic. Roof and tub are carbon fibre reinforced plastic. Bonnet is aluminium.



P5BNij

15,875 posts

107 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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In the mid '60s BMC experimented with a GRP body for the Mini and it was put into production in Chile....







Equus

16,980 posts

102 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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P5BNij said:
In the mid '60s BMC experimented with a GRP body for the Mini and it was put into production in Chile....
There were manufacturers of GRP Mini replica kits in the UK, as well - idea being that you could reshell the mechanical components from your rusty Mini.

Mini Minus:



Mini Pimlico:



Mini Phoenix:


Evanivitch

20,145 posts

123 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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Mr Squarekins said:
Pistonheads love pictures. Here's my plastic i8. Body panels are plastic. Roof and tub are carbon fibre reinforced plastic. Bonnet is aluminium.


Shame batteries are NMC and not lithium polymer!

Automaton

142 posts

42 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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I think a lot of the BMW Z1 is regular not reinforced plastic. Wiki says side panels and doors are not reinforced but bonnet boot and roof are.
It also has a galv chassis.
And a full flat (plastic incidentaly) aero underbody.

Oh and I think the Fiero body was unreinforced plastic also?

It's good that your niece is asking these questions, maybe she has a future in engineering. Maybe research some university "future mobility" projects, often in conjunction with OEMs, I'm sure many of them will have recycled or plant based polymer bodies.

Edited by Automaton on Sunday 17th October 20:42

finlo

3,767 posts

204 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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I think the front wings on second gen Vito's were made from old washing up bowl's!

swisstoni

17,042 posts

280 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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I wish more door panels were made of plastic.

This would seriously cut down on car park dings.
The paint could still be affected but there wouldn’t be the dents to fix.

Evanivitch

20,145 posts

123 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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swisstoni said:
I wish more door panels were made of plastic.

This would seriously cut down on car park dings.
The paint could still be affected but there wouldn’t be the dents to fix.
Fancy a Citroen C4 Cactus?

swisstoni

17,042 posts

280 months

Sunday 17th October 2021
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Evanivitch said:
swisstoni said:
I wish more door panels were made of plastic.

This would seriously cut down on car park dings.
The paint could still be affected but there wouldn’t be the dents to fix.
Fancy a Citroen C4 Cactus?
There are limits.

Mr Tidy

22,432 posts

128 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Most cars have plastic panels - I've had quite a few BMWs with plastic sill covers, front and rear bumpers.

It depends how you define plastic.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Carbon fibre is just posh plastic, well not the fibre per se but the resin that holds it together is.

Koolkat969

988 posts

100 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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The BMW Z1!

hidetheelephants

24,483 posts

194 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Evanivitch said:
Mr Squarekins said:
Pistonheads love pictures. Here's my plastic i8. Body panels are plastic. Roof and tub are carbon fibre reinforced plastic. Bonnet is aluminium.


Shame batteries are NMC and not lithium polymer!
confused
Why would you want an inferior battery tech that has a shorter life and has a propensity to thermal runaway? Energy density is not the be all and end all.

Evanivitch

20,145 posts

123 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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hidetheelephants said:
Evanivitch said:
Mr Squarekins said:
Pistonheads love pictures. Here's my plastic i8. Body panels are plastic. Roof and tub are carbon fibre reinforced plastic. Bonnet is aluminium.


Shame batteries are NMC and not lithium polymer!
confused
Why would you want an inferior battery tech that has a shorter life and has a propensity to thermal runaway? Energy density is not the be all and end all.

hammo19

5,027 posts

197 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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p4cks said:
Weren't the doors of a Renault Espace plastic? I'm sure the front wings of Clio 172s are plastic too
If I remember correctly the front wings of my Megane Scenic were plastic....

Byker28i

60,161 posts

218 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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Was it the Smart car that had changeable plastic panels?

jamies30

5,911 posts

230 months

Monday 18th October 2021
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The Alfa Romeo SZ and RZ are made of Modar, a “cold injection moulded thermosetting metacrylic resin” developed by ICI. I’ve got a feeling the first Vipers were made from the same thing but can’t remember where I read that.