RE: Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507 | Spotted

RE: Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG Edition 507 | Spotted

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MyV10BarksAndBites

944 posts

50 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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cerb4.5lee said:
EC123 said:
I was just asking in what way it makes it a must have actually driving it, having never had a car with LSD.
It is just down to personal taste I think, and I prefer the extra traction that it gives you, and I find sliding a car easier with one(it gives me more control).
Yeah, options and control... How it really should be really....

Try one with... and you will never want one without... and thats in anything really..

Unless really low powered... like <150hp

Sandpit Steve

10,140 posts

75 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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MTK1919 said:
Sandpit Steve said:
That’s lovely.

There’s a very similar one of these up in Dubai at the moment, maybe I go and take a look-see tomorrow. £33k in English money. Thought it was your old one for a moment, but this has the wheels in black.
https://dubai.dubizzle.com/motors/used-cars/merced...
and 2 extra doors!

My old one was up for sale earlier in the year for around 140k AED
LOL yes, and two extra doors! How did I not spot that?

Will look in the morning and report back to this thread tomorrow - the dealer is new and seems to be pushing their “0% down” finance packages hard, but the car itself looks genuine and lovely.

Oh, and the car is free anyway, what you’re actually buying is the engine!

ghibbett

1,901 posts

186 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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When I bought my C63 Estate new, back in 2012, the dealer had an AMG event that I was invited along to. I was um'ing and ah'ing over whether to add the LSD (£1750 option) when he suggested I back-to-back try two C63s, one with the LSD and one without. And he wouldn't tell me which was which.

It didn't matter, it was evident from the first corner when you squeezed the throttle on; the throttle opening gently edging the nose further into a corner. Glorious.

As for the earlier mention about these engines being de-tuned (the standard car, not the 507) that's exactly right. It's the same engine as in the E63 & CLS63, and in those cars produced 525bhp. In the C63, due to packaging constraints, the exhaust manifold isn't as free-flowing, but otherwise they're the same engine. However MB programme a throttle restriction of around 80% opening from 5000rpm. A remap simply removes this restriction (plus a few feeling & timing tweaks) and, on my car, increased from a dyno-proven 455bhp to 507bhp.

On the road, and below 5000rpm, there was no difference. However above the 5000rpm, the C63 suddenly gained some extra top-end shove, plus happily span through to the 7200rpm limiter, rather than feeling strangled from 6500rpm onwards.

Court_S

13,017 posts

178 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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Whilst I like the estate version best, that’s still very cool. The noise the 6.2 makes is pure filth, love it. I have a massive soft spot for the relatively compact cars that people shoehorn massive engines into.

W333

417 posts

224 months

Thursday 21st October 2021
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I bought one about 3yrs ago and I absolutely love it. The C63 was a bucket list car for me and in this trim level it is even more special. The fact that it's only really recognised by 'those who know' makes it even more special; I once had a DHL guy demand a complete walk around the car when he spotted the decals down the side, desperate to understand what was different about it vs a standard one. It was really nice just having 5 minutes chatting about it and seeing his enthusiasm/appreciation for it.

When you drive it back to back with the model one newer than the 2013/14 shape you begin to appreciate the raw, analogue nature of that engine, and in this spec you realise just how right they got it. Don't get me wrong, the newer one is good but I enjoy the slightly edgy/dangerous look this spec brings when coupled with the different wheels, bonnet vent and decals. It's definitely a brute - I've never really opened it up fully fully fully, I figured it's best to have a healthy respect for how quickly it could probably do what it's designed to do...

Didn't know about the throttle limiting, that's definitely something I need to look into!

The problem is, after this, where to next in the sub £90k bracket? I'm sure that question will keep a few people busy.






Booyakajon

146 posts

184 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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It is a fantastic car. Still an occasion to drive after 8 years of ownership!

Here it is at Oulton Park

Dr Nookie

234 posts

201 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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A chap came up to me in one of these a few years ago - tailed me into the car park as I was in the breadvan which he wanted to have a look at.

He had the estate in white, with a few extras I think - was a fantastic motor. I meant to get him number, so if you've got a white 507, and an LSB E46 M3, and live near Friston in Suffolk drop me a pm.

Cheers,

David.

Arsecati

2,321 posts

118 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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It's awesomeness only beaten by the estate version in my opinion. It's hard to see this not having increased in value in ten years..... though that is still a sad parameter to use when deciding to buy one or not.

Armen

252 posts

149 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Fantastic car !!! thumbup


f1ten

2,161 posts

154 months

Friday 22nd October 2021
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Beautiful 507 wagons...
The red car is glorious!
I nearly bought a red 08 wagon as I found out the original owner was my best friends father.! Sadly they couldn't tell me if the headbolts had been done so I bought a black 2013 wagon.
Ours has been at 155 mph down the autobahn 3 up and luggage no problem, a bit lardy on alpine passes and round Silverstone she was outgunned... But I love her!
Admittedly makes a better noise than my M4 did although it was a sharper tool.

leef44

4,423 posts

154 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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ghibbett said:
When I bought my C63 Estate new, back in 2012, the dealer had an AMG event that I was invited along to. I was um'ing and ah'ing over whether to add the LSD (£1750 option) when he suggested I back-to-back try two C63s, one with the LSD and one without. And he wouldn't tell me which was which.

It didn't matter, it was evident from the first corner when you squeezed the throttle on; the throttle opening gently edging the nose further into a corner. Glorious.

As for the earlier mention about these engines being de-tuned (the standard car, not the 507) that's exactly right. It's the same engine as in the E63 & CLS63, and in those cars produced 525bhp. In the C63, due to packaging constraints, the exhaust manifold isn't as free-flowing, but otherwise they're the same engine. However MB programme a throttle restriction of around 80% opening from 5000rpm. A remap simply removes this restriction (plus a few feeling & timing tweaks) and, on my car, increased from a dyno-proven 455bhp to 507bhp.

On the road, and below 5000rpm, there was no difference. However above the 5000rpm, the C63 suddenly gained some extra top-end shove, plus happily span through to the 7200rpm limiter, rather than feeling strangled from 6500rpm onwards.
Does this mean the forged pistons and lightened crank actually does nothing other than a marketing gimmick?

Or is it a case that you don't get anymore power/performance compared to removing the "detune" and the only benefit you get is quicker throttle response?

Court_S

13,017 posts

178 months

Monday 25th October 2021
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I’ve been a bit bored at work today so have been browsing the classifieds. A none 507 car is pretty compelling; there are some interesting cars within budget for my next car albeit only three estates.