Modifying to be illegal?

[bigothunter]

NMNeil said:

KTMsm said:

Of course it matters, if you want to reduce pollution you start with the biggest polluter first, you are trying to rearrange the deck chairs on the sinking Titanic rather than plugging the hole

No. you start with the easiest sources of pollution to stop. That puts cars at the top, or close to the top of the list.

Easiest in terms of massive revisions to infrastructure of energy supply and revolution of the car fleet from ICE to EV? Or easiest in terms of a soft target funded by gullible private individuals?

[kambites]

bigothunter said:

Easiest in terms of massive revisions to infrastructure of energy supply and revolution of the car fleet from ICE to EV? Or easiest in terms of a soft target funded by gullible private individuals?

Both, but ultimately they come down to the same thing. Everyone is funded by private individuals one way or another.

The problem at the moment is that automotive emissions are one of the few big hitters (along with electricity generation) we actually have a realistic means to solve both technologically and socioeconomically.

[Court_S]

trails said:

NMNeil said:

Does it matter, or are you one of those who believes that as you only pollute a little you should be exempt from any laws preventing pollution, and a few fatalities is a reasonable price to pay for your 'freedom' to do as you please?
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/dec/1...

Neil, why are you on Pistonheads?

Edited by trails on Monday 3rd January 14:11

I was going on ask the sane thing….he seems to actively dislike cars.

[NMNeil]

skyrover said:

Did you ever have kids NMNeil?

Far FAR more emissions per capita than even if you owned a fleet of modified cars.

We were never cursed with children. Possibly a good thing, as my bloodline ends with me.

[Pixelpeep 135]

i would like an immediate ban on any kind of headlight modification.

I regularly drive 50 miles home on unlit dual carriageways and get BLINDED like i have accidentally driven into the centre of the sun by cocksockets who can't afford a car with decent lights so buy some cheap Chinese LED/HID conversion kit with zero alignment instead for their 15 year old Mercedes.

[NMNeil]

trails said:

NMNeil said:

Because it's handy to have the opposite viewpoint to the die hard performance at any cost addicts, or the postings would be very boring

A troll by any other name then...bit sad really, shame you don't just go do something useful.

Perhaps this will be enough to stop anyone from responding to you any further on this thread. Fingers crossed 'eh.

Think about it.
If you join a forum for atheists, you will quickly establish that there are no, and never have been any gods, then unless you have someone who believes that there is an invisible man who lives in the sky. the forum will just collapse.
You, as well as many others on PH, believe that you should be given absolute freedom to modify your car or bike as you see fit with no concern of the consequences. So unless someone disagrees then the thread will be short lived.
And to hope that others don't respond to me and engage in conversation because you disagree with what I post, is rather childish.

[otolith]

Pixelpeep 135 said:

i would like an immediate ban on any kind of headlight modification.

I regularly drive 50 miles home on unlit dual carriageways and get BLINDED like i have accidentally driven into the centre of the sun by cocksockets who can't afford a car with decent lights so buy some cheap Chinese LED/HID conversion kit with zero alignment instead for their 15 year old Mercedes.

This regulation was badly done - the newer lighting technologies should never have been allowed to be brighter than halogen. The reason people are retrofitting newer lighting tech into their older cars is that sharing the road with cars with much brighter lights means you spend a lot of your time unable to see properly.

[RECr]

NMNeil said:

trails said:

NMNeil said:

Because it's handy to have the opposite viewpoint to the die hard performance at any cost addicts, or the postings would be very boring

A troll by any other name then...bit sad really, shame you don't just go do something useful.

Perhaps this will be enough to stop anyone from responding to you any further on this thread. Fingers crossed 'eh.

Think about it.
If you join a forum for atheists, you will quickly establish that there are no, and never have been any gods, then unless you have someone who believes that there is an invisible man who lives in the sky. the forum will just collapse.
You, as well as many others on PH, believe that you should be given absolute freedom to modify your car or bike as you see fit with no concern of the consequences. So unless someone disagrees then the thread will be short lived.
And to hope that others don't respond to me and engage in conversation because you disagree with what I post, is rather childish.

Do you like cars?

Do you enjoy driving?

Have you ever thought a speed limit is unduly low for the type of road, and that therefore it is not necessarily dangerous to exceed the limit?

[trails]

RECr said:

Do you like cars?

Do you enjoy driving?

Have you ever thought a speed limit is unduly low for the type of road, and that therefore it is not necessarily dangerous to exceed the limit?

Check out other posts on other topics, he or she is only here to troll…waste of time engaging with it, no matter how juicy the bait. Anonymity seems to make people behave in the strangest of ways.

[trails]

Court_S said:

I was going on ask the sane thing….he seems to actively dislike cars.

Wouldn’t be the first to join PH and certainly won’t be the last

[NMNeil]

trails said:

My stance; the Government must take sensible precautions around EV's and any modification, particularly in the context of autonomous operation...costly and complex legislation relating to ICE vehicles feels a bit like flogging a dead horse.

Obviously, I would say that as I like to fettle

On that I agree.
To curb the emissions from cars due to illegal tampering, legislation should have been introduced decades ago.
Too little too late now, the damage is already done as the age of the ICE engine is coming to a close.
But it's no different to here in the US with the EPA now taking a hard line towards emissions control equipment tampering, even though Biden is planning to make it almost impossible to build ICE powered vehicles that will meet the new emissions and fuel economy standards. Again, too little too late.
https://www.jdsupra.com/legalnews/epa-issues-final...

[DodgyGeezer]

Soooooo..... where do the anti-modification crowd stand on this??



https://www.carthrottle.com/post/v8-tesla-model-s-...


Full thumbs up from me - excellent stuff

[otolith]

DodgyGeezer said:

Soooooo..... where do the anti-modification crowd stand on this??



https://www.carthrottle.com/post/v8-tesla-model-s-...


Full thumbs up from me - excellent stuff

Personally, not anti-modification. I own a car which has different wheels, exhaust, induction and interior to those it left the factory with, and a supercharger.

But looking at that, I can only ask - "why?"

Because they just adore the striking styling of the Tesla Model S, but it's too fast for them and they want to slow it down?

Because being unlucky enough to live in the USA, where such things are unheard of, the only way they could obtain a noisy V8 engined car was to convert an electric one?

[RECr]

DodgyGeezer said:

Soooooo..... where do the anti-modification crowd stand on this??



https://www.carthrottle.com/post/v8-tesla-model-s-...


Full thumbs up from me - excellent stuff

It's kind of the antidote to those EV classic car conversion.

[Oilchange]

otolith said:

Personally, not anti-modification. I own a car which has different wheels, exhaust, induction and interior to those it left the factory with, and a supercharger.

But looking at that, I can only ask - "why?"

Because they just adore the striking styling of the Tesla Model S, but it's too fast for them and they want to slow it down?

Because being unlucky enough to live in the USA, where such things are unheard of, the only way they could obtain a noisy V8 engined car was to convert an electric one?

Did you even watch the video?
The car was a rebuilt write off and Tesla won’t sell any replacement parts.
Anyway, as they said, there’s nothing wrong with breathing through your mouth, sweetie. Just do it someplace else.

[kambites]

Oilchange said:

Did you even watch the video?
The car was a rebuilt write off and Tesla won’t sell any replacement parts.
Anyway, as they said, there’s nothing wrong with breathing through your mouth, sweetie. Just do it someplace else.

I love odd-ball things like this, but they'd still have ended up with a better car if they'd just bought something with a V8. The Tesla's sole reason for existence is its drive-train, the rest of it is thoroughly meh. Still even if it's a bit rubbish I love that people put in the effort to ensure that vehicles like this exist.

Edited by kambites on Tuesday 4th January 18:24

[Oilchange]

I do agree but if there’s an excuse to stick a v8 into it then there’s no reason why not. And its 750 kg Iighter!
Ultimately made a more interesting car imo

[kambites]

Oilchange said:

And its 750 kg Iighter!

The entire drive-train of a P100D weighs about that so they must have taken a good couple of hundred kg of other stuff out to achieve a net 750kg drop in weight.

[otolith]

Oilchange said:

Did you even watch the video?
The car was a rebuilt write off and Tesla won’t sell any replacement parts.
Anyway, as they said, there’s nothing wrong with breathing through your mouth, sweetie. Just do it someplace else.

No, I didn't watch the video, all that information was in the page.

The right thing to do with the crashed Tesla was to scrap it and put the V8 into something that deserves it.

Utterly pointless waste of time.

Are you 12?

[Oilchange]

Yes.