Best smoker barges 1-5 large [Vol 20]
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Well, despite many a forever lost hour spent perusing the usual suspects in the vain hope of an affordable alternative for my aging and rusting E39 estate I have come to the conclusion that they are either;
A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
McGee_22 said:
Well, despite many a forever lost hour spent perusing the usual suspects in the vain hope of an affordable alternative for my aging and rusting E39 estate I have come to the conclusion that they are either;
A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
You should check out R129sl's w124 readers rides page the recent work he's had done looks fantastic A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
StonedRollin said:
Checking in.................. 
Sadly lacking in interior shots but then i'm not sure i'd ever get inside it and just wander around the outside looking.
https://wellboughtwellsold.com/auction/33-citroen-...
No price/estimate/location. I don't understand the site. (grandpa simpson gif). Sadly lacking in interior shots but then i'm not sure i'd ever get inside it and just wander around the outside looking.
https://wellboughtwellsold.com/auction/33-citroen-...
Gorgeous though. Has eclipsed the DS in aesthetic terms, for me at least.
McGee_22 said:
Well, despite many a forever lost hour spent perusing the usual suspects in the vain hope of an affordable alternative for my aging and rusting E39 estate I have come to the conclusion that they are either;
A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
Ooh I do like Alpina's. Can we get some before and after pics please?A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
Jdnatureboy said:
McGee_22 said:
Well, despite many a forever lost hour spent perusing the usual suspects in the vain hope of an affordable alternative for my aging and rusting E39 estate I have come to the conclusion that they are either;
A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
Ooh I do like Alpina's. Can we get some before and after pics please?A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
On a point of information, the insurance renewal for the G-wagen and w124 are coming up soon. The broker who I have used for 15 years wants £695.72 and £422.09 respectively. I am a 45 year old, married father of two; a lawyer; a part-time judge; I have never made an insurance claim in my entire life; we life in the past where crime does not exist; I have 3 points for speeding. This all struck me as absurd so I did that incredibly tedious things and spent 1hr37 minutes on the phone to a Canadian chap who was so nice that had he been a Canadian lady I would have been planning an extended holiday in Canada; he worked for Admiral and his cost for slightly better cover was £302.40 and £111.22. He can insure the 190 for £164.92 and the SL for the comedic price of £82.39. All in all, I reckon I have saved £1,200 on insurance over the next year, which saving I will now spend four times over on total s
t that I do not need.How much do we think this is going to go for? Perhaps answer in multiples of £1,200. The dealer seller is asking £16,995 elsewhere which seems a tad optimistic but my-oh-my what a beautiful car. I really fancy it. Incredibly rare "SEC-style" seating, a £1,987.76 option back in the day. Bagsy first dibs.
https://www.finecarcompany.com/lot/details/56321
https://www.finecarcompany.com/lot/details/56321
ian316 said:
Well I've just read an article on Kevin who says he saves £40 a month hypermiling on his 70 mile a day commute, Well I'm sorry but I couldn't depress myself that much for a tenner a week 
My mileage allowance this month was just north of £900. What's the opposite of hypermiling? I get 19mpg most of the time.CAPP0 said:
Call me a radical upstart, but how about we use this new iteration of the thread to focus on, say, cars which are a bit bargey, and which are being advertised for over a grand but no more than 5 grand?
Hmm? Just a thought. Maybe we could bend the rules on a Friday, which does appear to only represent around 24 of the 168 hours in a week?
Friday is a state of mind in this place, not just a defined time period.Hmm? Just a thought. Maybe we could bend the rules on a Friday, which does appear to only represent around 24 of the 168 hours in a week?
ian316 said:
Well I've just read an article on Kevin who says he saves £40 a month hypermiling on his 70 mile a day commute, Well I'm sorry but I couldn't depress myself that much for a tenner a week
I reckon with the time he wastes being very slow driving, he could just do more hours at work and earn more whilst also being productive. Or he could spend more time sleeping or doing other more productive things. I wonder how much his electric car costs in his monthly payments, and whether he'd be better off with a 1-5 large barge instead.r129sl said:
ian316 said:
Well I've just read an article on Kevin who says he saves £40 a month hypermiling on his 70 mile a day commute, Well I'm sorry but I couldn't depress myself that much for a tenner a week
Single chap? Hyper-miling an electric car?
Jdnatureboy said:
McGee_22 said:
Poetic guff
Ooh I do like Alpina's. Can we get some before and after pics please?
...and this is now - not too shabby but not brilliant...
r129sl said:
Poetic but we need pictures. The car you have already got is always the cheapest car. Far better to spend money getting it back to perfect than to spend money a new used car and then spend even more money getting that one back to perfect. Anyway, nothing is ever going to be better than an E39 Alpina B10 V8 Touring. Why even bother looking?
The car was the 2001 Sytner demonstrator and pretty well specced - up from its £55k standard price to c£74k with all the extras and the guy that first owned it for 4 years replaced it with an E61 Alpina B5 Touring - here's what he had to say about the two...Heuer said:
My B10 V8 Touring was the best car I ever owned a brilliant combination of performance and handling - balanced would be the appropriate word. With the B5 Alpina totally lost the plot sacrificing that delicious 'balance' on the twin altars of top speed and maximum power. The B5 is certainly quick but on a cross country route give me the B10 any day.
I'll take some pics of the scabby bits before it goes and then get someone who knows how to take good pictures to do so when I get it back 
McGee_22 said:
Well, despite many a forever lost hour spent perusing the usual suspects in the vain hope of an affordable alternative for my aging and rusting E39 estate I have come to the conclusion that they are either;
A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
You made the right choice. An Alpina E39 V8 touring is a fabulous thing and deserving of some pampering occasionally.A. Unaffordable
B. Bork-tastic
C. Both of the above
D. An as yet unknown unicorn that is none of the above and that should it be discovered will be jumped on like tramps on a sandwich.
Whilst not exactly thread tone, as in, I'm not buying another barge, I decided to explore the possibility of tidying my old barge up a little. Ten years of my ownership of what was once considered an exotic, fast and rare germanic estate has reduced it, accelerated through daily use, work wagon-ness and never a day spent sheltering in a garage from a once gleaming and desirable Alpina B10 V8 Touring to just another feather edged and tired looking old E39 estate. I should add I have invested reasonably good amounts getting it so that mechanically, electrically and dynamically it works pretty damn well - it just looks like every other sad rusty E39 estate with 2/3rds moon mileage on it.
I therefore went with a friend, to meet a friend of a friend, who apparently runs a little cottage business doing a little bit of bodywork restoration and re-spraying. So whilst the quietly spoken and studious proprietor/owner/dogsbody/sole employee looked around my tired old heap I prepared myself to ask the two key questions;
1. How much?
2. Can I see something you've sprayed recently?
The 'how much' was thankfully within the scope of my budget and anxious anticipation, however the second question elicited some embarrassment on my part as said quiet and thoughtful man pulled back the door on a Ferrari 330 GT which he had just finished putting back together
It was a masterpiece, a flawless beautiful diamond of a car and fabulously and meticulously restored by a man who was now inexplicably agreeing to take on my dirty, rusty, tired german pebble.
The 'man' will take my car, and my money, and hopefully give me back a small gem of a car, pretty as picture again, as well as affording me many future free hours where I should not have to seek its replacement at a silly inflated covid price and with many a modern hidden borkage.
r129sl said:
Poetic but we need pictures. The car you have already got is always the cheapest car. Far better to spend money getting it back to perfect than to spend money a new used car and then spend even more money getting that one back to perfect. Anyway, nothing is ever going to be better than an E39 Alpina B10 V8 Touring. Why even bother looking?
On a point of information, the insurance renewal for the G-wagen and w124 are coming up soon. The broker who I have used for 15 years wants £695.72 and £422.09 respectively. I am a 45 year old, married father of two; a lawyer; a part-time judge; I have never made an insurance claim in my entire life; we life in the past where crime does not exist; I have 3 points for speeding. This all struck me as absurd so I did that incredibly tedious things and spent 1hr37 minutes on the phone to a Canadian chap who was so nice that had he been a Canadian lady I would have been planning an extended holiday in Canada; he worked for Admiral and his cost for slightly better cover was £302.40 and £111.22. He can insure the 190 for £164.92 and the SL for the comedic price of £82.39. All in all, I reckon I have saved £1,200 on insurance over the next year, which saving I will now spend four times over on total st that I do not need.
Excellent. Money to put to a W124 E320. I will get back to you when I get back up North and remember where I parked it, and get it MOTed. On a point of information, the insurance renewal for the G-wagen and w124 are coming up soon. The broker who I have used for 15 years wants £695.72 and £422.09 respectively. I am a 45 year old, married father of two; a lawyer; a part-time judge; I have never made an insurance claim in my entire life; we life in the past where crime does not exist; I have 3 points for speeding. This all struck me as absurd so I did that incredibly tedious things and spent 1hr37 minutes on the phone to a Canadian chap who was so nice that had he been a Canadian lady I would have been planning an extended holiday in Canada; he worked for Admiral and his cost for slightly better cover was £302.40 and £111.22. He can insure the 190 for £164.92 and the SL for the comedic price of £82.39. All in all, I reckon I have saved £1,200 on insurance over the next year, which saving I will now spend four times over on total s
t that I do not need.
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