The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 6)

The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 6)

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ro250

2,755 posts

58 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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I think the caravan driver (arrogantly) assumed the truck driver was going to yield and was then taken by surprise as his car was dragged sideways.

I've yielded to many people before when technically I shouldn't. I've seen so many dashcam videos of idiots jostling at merges where it seems nothing else matters apart from being first. Maybe I've just mellowed with age, but I'd rather keep my car dent-free.

InitialDave

11,956 posts

120 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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ro250 said:
I've yielded to many people before when technically I shouldn't. I've seen so many dashcam videos of idiots jostling at merges where it seems nothing else matters apart from being first. Maybe I've just mellowed with age, but I'd rather keep my car dent-free.
Yep.

I really don't care that much anymore. It's one car length.

ro250

2,755 posts

58 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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InitialDave said:
ro250 said:
I've yielded to many people before when technically I shouldn't. I've seen so many dashcam videos of idiots jostling at merges where it seems nothing else matters apart from being first. Maybe I've just mellowed with age, but I'd rather keep my car dent-free.
Yep.

I really don't care that much anymore. It's one car length.
Unless they overtake me and then I'll obviously ram them off the road biggrin

Ron240

2,774 posts

120 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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budgie smuggler said:
To avoid a crash inconveniencing thousands of people just so that he doesn't lose one place in a queue of traffic?
Quite right...its better to be an enabler to this type of selfish and arrogant driver.

Bonefish Blues

26,886 posts

224 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Ron240 said:
budgie smuggler said:
To avoid a crash inconveniencing thousands of people just so that he doesn't lose one place in a queue of traffic?
Quite right...its better to be an enabler to this type of selfish and arrogant driver.
On balance, yes

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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trackdemon said:
If you've missed your turn off, or are just trying to jump the queue and barge in you don't just move into a lane that already has traffic there - especially so if it's a HGV. The truck could have conceded the space, but why should he? It wasn't him making the mistake.
Just because someone makes a mistake, doesnt mean someone else should make it worse if they can do something about it.
Highway code states the obvious when it says everyone has a duty to avoid an incident if they can.
It was as clear as night follows day that the caravan needed to move into lane- the truck could easily have slowed up with losing more than a second or so.
Instead what - how many people held up for how many hours in total - how much in insurance

Just ease up, make way if necessary, dont make a situation worse and try some ogmios cloud9
And yes we've done it to dust a number of years ago and there are still people preferring to take the collision as a solution

ro250

2,755 posts

58 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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saaby93 said:
trackdemon said:
If you've missed your turn off, or are just trying to jump the queue and barge in you don't just move into a lane that already has traffic there - especially so if it's a HGV. The truck could have conceded the space, but why should he? It wasn't him making the mistake.
Just because someone makes a mistake, doesnt mean someone else should make it worse if they can do something about it.
Highway code states the obvious when it says everyone has a duty to avoid an incident if they can.
It was as clear as night follows day that the caravan needed to move into lane- the truck could easily have slowed up with losing more than a second or so.
Instead what - how many people held up for how many hours in total - how much in insurance

Just ease up, make way if necessary, dont make a situation worse and try some ogmios cloud9
And yes we've done it to dust a number of years ago and there are still people preferring to take the collision as a solution
Just last weekend I was driving through a high street and a truck which was parked facing the way I was coming pulled out. He slammed on, as did I (all low speed, I was doing 30). Now I could have sounded my horn, stuck my fingers up and gone round him, but he put his hand up to apologise and I waved him out.

It wasn't hard to not be a knob.

I often see people persist in their righteousness in these situations such as still going for the roundabout exit which someone is cutting them up from. Just abort the move!

Mammasaid

3,880 posts

98 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Latest 'To you' - 1st clip, James is a grade A knobber


ScotHill

3,192 posts

110 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Mammasaid said:
Latest 'To you' - 1st clip, James is a grade A knobber

What the hell is that road layout at 2m10?

5s Alive

1,852 posts

35 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Bonefish Blues said:
Ron240 said:
budgie smuggler said:
To avoid a crash inconveniencing thousands of people just so that he doesn't lose one place in a queue of traffic?
Quite right...its better to be an enabler to this type of selfish and arrogant driver.
On balance, yes
No doubt but no less annoying if it's clear the offender has opted to skip the queue.

Bonefish Blues

26,886 posts

224 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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5s Alive said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Ron240 said:
budgie smuggler said:
To avoid a crash inconveniencing thousands of people just so that he doesn't lose one place in a queue of traffic?
Quite right...its better to be an enabler to this type of selfish and arrogant driver.
On balance, yes
No doubt but no less annoying if it's clear the offender has opted to skip the queue.
Sure, it's a bit frustrating.

But I can deal with that smile

5s Alive

1,852 posts

35 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Bonefish Blues said:
5s Alive said:
Bonefish Blues said:
Ron240 said:
budgie smuggler said:
To avoid a crash inconveniencing thousands of people just so that he doesn't lose one place in a queue of traffic?
Quite right...its better to be an enabler to this type of selfish and arrogant driver.
On balance, yes
No doubt but no less annoying if it's clear the offender has opted to skip the queue.
Sure, it's a bit frustrating.

But I can deal with that smile
beer
However a driver [E39 (sorry!) 5 series] who was doing 90 in the outside lane presumably steering with his knees while shaving and on his mobile yikes and then braked hard across all three lanes onto the exit slip forcing traffic to take evasive action stretched my patience somewhat.

Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Dodgy Drivers.



Gadget Meister




Mammasaid

3,880 posts

98 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Blakewater said:
Dodgy Drivers.

That's 2 weeks in a row!!!

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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Blakewater said:
Gadget Meister

DCWs driving into all sorts of dodgy situations for footage?
just ease back and lay off the horn

Blakewater

4,311 posts

158 months

Friday 13th May 2022
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K9 Dashcam


trackdemon

12,195 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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budgie smuggler said:
trackdemon said:
The truck could have conceded the space, but why should he?
To avoid a crash inconveniencing thousands of people just so that he doesn't lose one place in a queue of traffic? smile

To help somebody out so they don't have to sit stationary in a live motorway lane?

Even in purely selfish terms, he's delayed his own journey by probably at least 20 mins sorting it out, maybe an hour+ depending on how that caravan and vehicle are now wedged against the barrier.
I dare say he (quite reasonably) assumed someone wouldn't be stupid enough to just go ahead and drive straight into his truck, so no he didn't knowingly delay his journey, he clearly expected them to yield as it was their mistake / arrogant queue jumping that caused the whole situation. Ergo the onus is on them to rectify it, and if you don't want to sit in a live L1 hoping to get let in then cruise to the next junction and turn back.

trackdemon

12,195 posts

262 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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saaby93 said:
trackdemon said:
If you've missed your turn off, or are just trying to jump the queue and barge in you don't just move into a lane that already has traffic there - especially so if it's a HGV. The truck could have conceded the space, but why should he? It wasn't him making the mistake.
Just because someone makes a mistake, doesnt mean someone else should make it worse if they can do something about it.
Highway code states the obvious when it says everyone has a duty to avoid an incident if they can.
It was as clear as night follows day that the caravan needed to move into lane- the truck could easily have slowed up with losing more than a second or so.
Instead what - how many people held up for how many hours in total - how much in insurance

Just ease up, make way if necessary, dont make a situation worse and try some ogmios cloud9
And yes we've done it to dust a number of years ago and there are still people preferring to take the collision as a solution
Victim blaming at its best. Just to be clear, as it seems you may have missed it: the caravaner drove into the truck. Your points are correct but aimed at the wrong person:

"It was as clear as night follows day that the caravan needed to move into lane"

Indeed it was. Just as it was equally clear they were taking the piss, or could have taken the extraordinarily easy option of rectifying their own mistake by carrying on to the next junction

"Just because someone makes a mistake, doesnt mean someone else should make it worse if they can do something about it."

Caravaner made a mistake (or, more likely, was taking the piss and queue jumping). They could have resolved the whole thing by not driving directly into the vehicle which was quite legally and correctly proceeding next to them

saaby93

32,038 posts

179 months

Saturday 14th May 2022
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trackdemon said:
saaby93 said:
trackdemon said:
If you've missed your turn off, or are just trying to jump the queue and barge in you don't just move into a lane that already has traffic there - especially so if it's a HGV. The truck could have conceded the space, but why should he? It wasn't him making the mistake.
Just because someone makes a mistake, doesnt mean someone else should make it worse if they can do something about it.
Highway code states the obvious when it says everyone has a duty to avoid an incident if they can.
It was as clear as night follows day that the caravan needed to move into lane- the truck could easily have slowed up with losing more than a second or so.
Instead what - how many people held up for how many hours in total - how much in insurance

Just ease up, make way if necessary, dont make a situation worse and try some ogmios cloud9
And yes we've done it to dust a number of years ago and there are still people preferring to take the collision as a solution
Victim blaming at its best. Just to be clear, as it seems you may have missed it: the caravaner drove into the truck. Your points are correct but aimed at the wrong person:

"It was as clear as night follows day that the caravan needed to move into lane"

Indeed it was. Just as it was equally clear they were taking the piss, or could have taken the extraordinarily easy option of rectifying their own mistake by carrying on to the next junction

"Just because someone makes a mistake, doesnt mean someone else should make it worse if they can do something about it."

Caravaner made a mistake (or, more likely, was taking the piss and queue jumping). They could have resolved the whole thing by not driving directly into the vehicle which was quite legally and correctly proceeding next to them
Thanks for proving my point coffee
The Highway Code says nothing about trying to teach someone a lesson, otherwise we'd all be driving about in dented jalopies

HC does say Duty to avoid
How many parties there failed to use their duty to avoid

Gareth79

7,700 posts

247 months

Sunday 15th May 2022
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trackdemon said:
Caravaner made a mistake (or, more likely, was taking the piss and queue jumping). They could have resolved the whole thing by not driving directly into the vehicle which was quite legally and correctly proceeding next to them
Also after the 0:20 mark the line goes solid, so from that point it was simply outright illegal for them to move across, no matter what anybody else was doing.