The "S**t Driving Caught On Cam" Thread (Vol 6)
Discussion
paulguitar said:
Could someone explain to me why this has got several people so comprehensively triggered? I see looking back through the thread that it is a reposted video from a while ago, and is being discussed again. I'm assuming there is more to it though?
No that's pretty much it. It's like when Ross was going to boff Janice in Friends, just because Chandler had already exhausted her potential doesn't mean that Ross should miss out.Just post another video:
ScotHill said:
No that's pretty much it. It's like when Ross was going to boff Janice in Friends, just because Chandler had already exhausted her potential doesn't mean that Ross should miss out.
Ah, okay, thanks. ScotHill said:
Just post another video:
I was watching this one earlier, actually. The BMW looks to be doing considerably above the 40 limit and doesn't even attempt to stop at the traffic lights. The poor fellow who gets hit was a bit on the brave side, he didn't seem to do much in the way of checking before crossing the road and it looks like he didn't get the green man before starting across either. He would not have been expecting a car doing anything like that speed, of course, but still crossed whilst the lights at that point were green for the car.paulguitar said:
Cold said:
Bloody hell.
Stop.
Could someone explain to me why this has got several people so comprehensively triggered? I see looking back through the thread that it is a reposted video from a while ago, and is being discussed again. I'm assuming there is more to it though?Stop.
There is absolutely no reason to do the same again today. Especially when it's just the same old claptrap being endlessly regurgitated. The contributors are of a similar mindset to those DCWs who can never let go of a situation due to wanting to be "right".
It's a very dull spectator sport and adds nothing to the thread.
Anyone who continues the dragging the argument on is as bad as a DCW who speeds up when being overtaken. True fact.
Cold said:
It's a five hundred year old clip. It was discussed at the time with the same nonsensical back and forth arguments going on and on and on and on.
There is absolutely no reason to do the same again today. Especially when it's just the same old claptrap being endlessly regurgitated. The contributors are of a similar mindset to those DCWs who can never let go of a situation due to wanting to be "right".
It's a very dull spectator sport and adds nothing to the thread.
Anyone who continues the dragging the argument on is as bad as a DCW who speeds up when being overtaken. True fact.
The seemingly reasonably obvious explanation is that those discussing it had not seen the video previously or been part of the discussion the first time around, I'd suspect? There is absolutely no reason to do the same again today. Especially when it's just the same old claptrap being endlessly regurgitated. The contributors are of a similar mindset to those DCWs who can never let go of a situation due to wanting to be "right".
It's a very dull spectator sport and adds nothing to the thread.
Anyone who continues the dragging the argument on is as bad as a DCW who speeds up when being overtaken. True fact.
Actually, scrap that, two vehicles had just passed in front of him and he pulled out blind without stopping (or presumably looking) to check whether anything else was coming. The speed might have taken him by surprise, but no way should anyone have crossed like that, especially against a red pedestrian light.
AND the driver had his brakes on most of the time after the red light, and if he'd moved left or even stayed in a straight line he wouldn't have hit the cyclist, who was almost completely in the outside lane when he got hit. What a fkup.
AND the driver had his brakes on most of the time after the red light, and if he'd moved left or even stayed in a straight line he wouldn't have hit the cyclist, who was almost completely in the outside lane when he got hit. What a fkup.
Edited by ScotHill on Monday 16th May 20:24
And because my kids won't go to sleep yet, this is likely where the cyclist came from, turning left on the pavement on the left (I originally thought he was emerging from a perpendicular bike path in the bushes but there isn't one). He'd have seen the car stationary at the lights on the right and realised it would likely remain clear for him to cross even if his pedestrian light was red. So the red light jump was a major factor for the accident, along with the speed. The cyclist shouldn't have crossed but a slower vehicle would have been able to stop, and a vehicle that stopped at the red wouldn't have been there at all.
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5131513,-2.3812048...
Having said ll that, I wouldn't have been hit because I wouldn't have crossed. :-/
https://www.google.com/maps/@53.5131513,-2.3812048...
Having said ll that, I wouldn't have been hit because I wouldn't have crossed. :-/
paulguitar said:
I was watching this one earlier, actually. The BMW looks to be doing considerably above the 40 limit and doesn't even attempt to stop at the traffic lights. The poor fellow who gets hit was a bit on the brave side, he didn't seem to do much in the way of checking before crossing the road and it looks like he didn't get the green man before starting across either. He would not have been expecting a car doing anything like that speed, of course, but still crossed whilst the lights at that point were green for the car.
The lights were very much NOT red for the car. Only on PistonHeads Can people still try to apportion some of the blame on the pedestrian crossing a road and attempt to absolve the driver.pablo said:
paulguitar said:
I was watching this one earlier, actually. The BMW looks to be doing considerably above the 40 limit and doesn't even attempt to stop at the traffic lights. The poor fellow who gets hit was a bit on the brave side, he didn't seem to do much in the way of checking before crossing the road and it looks like he didn't get the green man before starting across either. He would not have been expecting a car doing anything like that speed, of course, but still crossed whilst the lights at that point were green for the car.
The lights were very much NOT red for the car. Only on PistonHeads Can people still try to apportion some of the blame on the pedestrian crossing a road and attempt to absolve the driver.The car went through red lights, as I said, 'doesn't even attempt to stop at the traffic lights'.
The chap crossing the road appears to not have waited for the green man, as we can see the lights are green (for cars).
ScotHill said:
Actually, scrap that, two vehicles had just passed in front of him and he pulled out blind without stopping (or presumably looking) to check whether anything else was coming. The speed might have taken him by surprise, but no way should anyone have crossed like that, especially against a red pedestrian light.
A significant number of pedestrians cross when the red man is showing otherwise they could wait what seems all day.it looks like the postie saw the main lights go to red and probably has crossed the road every day when that happens and before traffic emerges from the side road.
ScotHill said:
saaby93 said:
A significant number of pedestrians cross when the red man is showing otherwise they could wait what seems all day.
Only when they've looked and there are no cars coming.Didnt expect the BMW to swerve around it and go through a red light
Someone needs hauling over the coals and it's not the pedestrian
Clearly not the pedestrian's fault BUT I've seen similar on previous videos where the lights change and cars just go. Someone jumps the lights and there's a big smash. There's a video in SA I think where the lights go green, 4 lanes of cars go and an HGV ploughs across the junction and quite a few people die.
Even when lights go green/red I still always double check after seeing that video.
A lot of pedestrians still walk out into the road without checking...
Even when lights go green/red I still always double check after seeing that video.
A lot of pedestrians still walk out into the road without checking...
Frimley111R said:
Clearly not the pedestrian's fault BUT I've seen similar on previous videos where the lights change and cars just go. Someone jumps the lights and there's a big smash. There's a video in SA I think where the lights go green, 4 lanes of cars go and an HGV ploughs across the junction and quite a few people die.
Even when lights go green/red I still always double check after seeing that video.
A lot of pedestrians still walk out into the road without checking...
We shall have to agree to disagree, as a driver you check at crossings for people crossing over, same as when you turn into a road, and as a pedestrian you should check if it’s safe to cross whether the lights are red or green, he did’t even have a green light.Even when lights go green/red I still always double check after seeing that video.
A lot of pedestrians still walk out into the road without checking...
But your right when you say a lot of people walk into the road as they have a green light, my misses for one, always says to me green means it’s safe to cross……. Like you I always check especially for kamazi cyclists and Deliveroo people
But yes to a point he was at fault no doubt at all.
paulguitar said:
I'm unclear about what you mean here?
The car went through red lights, as I said, 'doesn't even attempt to stop at the traffic lights'.
The chap crossing the road appears to not have waited for the green man, as we can see the lights are green (for cars).
Different lights controlling different traffic. I assume you mean the second set of green ones facing the camera, they are for cars emerging on to the main road from the road on the left aren’t they?. As there are no cars emerging, and a car was stationary at the same set of lights the BMW thought were optional, the pedestrian could rightly assume that it was safe to cross. How many of us would have waited for a safe to cross light in those circumstances? You shouldn’t always need to press the button at a pedestrian crossing and wait for a green light to indicate it’s safe to cross if you know the light/traffic sequence. And as this incident proves, even if he had a green light indicating it was safe to cross, it clearly wasn’t as some drivers will ignore any/all lightsThe car went through red lights, as I said, 'doesn't even attempt to stop at the traffic lights'.
The chap crossing the road appears to not have waited for the green man, as we can see the lights are green (for cars).
pablo said:
Different lights controlling different traffic. I assume you mean the second set of green ones facing the camera, they are for cars emerging on to the main road from the road on the left aren’t they?. As there are no cars emerging, and a car was stationary at the same set of lights the BMW thought were optional, the pedestrian could rightly assume that it was safe to cross. How many of us would have waited for a safe to cross light in those circumstances? You shouldn’t always need to press the button at a pedestrian crossing and wait for a green light to indicate it’s safe to cross if you know the light/traffic sequence. And as this incident proves, even if he had a green light indicating it was safe to cross, it clearly wasn’t as some drivers will ignore any/all lights
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