RE: Aston Martin Vantage V600 Le Mans | Spotted

RE: Aston Martin Vantage V600 Le Mans | Spotted

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samoht

5,715 posts

146 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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was just listening to Andrew Frankel on his podcast, talking about how the Virage was

Agent57 said:
"...when the Virage became the Vantage in 1993, none of that seemed to matter anymore. A skilfully executed redesign by Marek Reichman..."

I think this was before he joined AM. Happy to be corrected if I am wrong. He would have been at Rover in the early 90s.
yeah, joined Ford in '99 so that would have been the earliest he might have had any contact with Aston
Aston Martin said:
After beginning his design career with Rover Cars in 1991, Marek moved to BMW Designworks, California in 1995 ... Marek joined Ford in 1999 as Chief Designer for the company’s Ford and Lincoln Mercury brands ... He joined Aston Martin in 2005 as Director of Design
https://media.astonmartin.com/marek-reichman-execu...

Chunkychucky

5,961 posts

169 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Always liked these since reading about them in books/contemporary magazines as a child.

If I had £100k i'd be in one, but for >£400k? Uhh, noooooo.... rofl

waynecyclist

8,797 posts

114 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Just no, a lot of other and better choices for that much money.

The interior is awful

V8LM

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5,174 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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will_ said:
Didn't the Virage become the V8 coupe before it became the Vantage?

Have always loved these, proper brute of a thing.
The Virage was launched in 88 and the last built in 94. The Vantage was launched in 92.

In 96, the V8 Coupe was launched, which is essentially a Vantage without the supercharged engine, and the V8 Volante in 97. At this time the Vantage was renamed V8 Vantage.

Hairymonster

1,428 posts

105 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Just gorgeous. I remember when the V600 came out and CAR magazine had a photo of it from head-on for their cover. Brutal, and bloomin' lovely. The rear lights look a bit Ferrari Daytona. I'd have this in a heartbeat.

V8LM

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5,174 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Hairymonster said:
The rear lights look a bit Ferrari Daytona.
Corvette C4 on the prototype but Aston Martin had to reverse engineer their own for production. As they couldn't put the reflector in the circumference they needed to put the Jag XJ40 reflectors in the bumper.

Turbobanana

6,271 posts

201 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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For half a million quid I think I'd want the rear indicator lenses to be the same colour. Also...

PH said:
The 5.3-litre V8 produced 550hp in standard Vantage form, which already made it the most powerful production car at the time
Does the McLaren F1 not count as a production car?

Largechris

2,019 posts

91 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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waynecyclist said:
Just no, a lot of other and better choices for that much money.

The interior is awful
Disagree on the interior, at the time this was about as leathery and chesterfieldy as anything. The regular V8 in green yes please, a complete event of a car start to finish, used to spend ages looking at one in a local garage.

Tragic that they put those nostrils on it later on, this was a car that never needed special editions.

V8LM

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5,174 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Largechris said:
Disagree on the interior, at the time this was about as leathery and chesterfieldy as anything. The regular V8 in green yes please, a complete event of a car start to finish, used to spend ages looking at one in a local garage.

Tragic that they put those nostrils on it later on, this was a car that never needed special editions.
Nostrils were on the original model.



Largechris

2,019 posts

91 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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V8LM said:
Largechris said:
Disagree on the interior, at the time this was about as leathery and chesterfieldy as anything. The regular V8 in green yes please, a complete event of a car start to finish, used to spend ages looking at one in a local garage.

Tragic that they put those nostrils on it later on, this was a car that never needed special editions.
Nostrils were on the original model.

The original as in V550? No, just grills:


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anonymous-user

54 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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To think this was sandwiched between the V8 Vantage of the 1980s and the V8 Vantage of 2005 onwards. It’s a genuine aberration.

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Turbobanana said:
For half a million quid I think I'd want the rear indicator lenses to be the same colour. Also...

PH said:
The 5.3-litre V8 produced 550hp in standard Vantage form, which already made it the most powerful production car at the time
Does the McLaren F1 not count as a production car?
The McLaren F1 might have stopped production by then. I think the Diablo was the most powerful production car as well for a short time. IIRC on this car they blanked off the sixth speed, and fitted a ‘short shift’ linkage to the box. Probably means it you only needed a lump hammer to change gear instead of the previous sledge hammer.

V8LM

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5,174 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Largechris said:
The original as in V550? No, just grills:


[url]

|https://thumbsnap.com/YN7WDkvR[/url]
The design model initially had nostrils, as per John Heffernan's design, and then the model tried without and decided not to have them on the cars.




Pommy

14,254 posts

216 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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V8LM said:
Largechris said:
Disagree on the interior, at the time this was about as leathery and chesterfieldy as anything. The regular V8 in green yes please, a complete event of a car start to finish, used to spend ages looking at one in a local garage.

Tragic that they put those nostrils on it later on, this was a car that never needed special editions.
Nostrils were on the original model.

It wasn't launched with the nostrils or those wheels.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.driving.co.uk/new...


OLDBENZ

397 posts

136 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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The nostrils were a feature of the run out Le Mans models in 1999 along with other detail changes including the dinner plate sized rev counter. These were the last 40 cars of the V8 Vantage run (ignoring the handful of short wheel base Volantes) celebrating the 40 year anniversry of Aston's Le Mans win.

The regular production run before the Le Mans had a black slatted grille. 'Production run' is probably not the right term for a model that barely reached the low 200s over a seven year run.

I had a 1999 V550 ten years or so ago. It was an exciting brute of a car (and rather too exciting for me in the wet).

nikaiyo2

4,732 posts

195 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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I cant be the only one thinking this...

markcoznottz

7,155 posts

224 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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Pommy said:
V8LM said:
Largechris said:
Disagree on the interior, at the time this was about as leathery and chesterfieldy as anything. The regular V8 in green yes please, a complete event of a car start to finish, used to spend ages looking at one in a local garage.

Tragic that they put those nostrils on it later on, this was a car that never needed special editions.
Nostrils were on the original model.

It wasn't launched with the nostrils or those wheels.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.driving.co.uk/new...

Take it those wheels never made production ? Using the standard cars wheels was a bit cheeky, made it easier to see it as a parts bin special

V8LM

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5,174 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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markcoznottz said:
Take it those wheels never made production ? Using the standard cars wheels was a bit cheeky, made it easier to see it as a parts bin special
Wheels on the Le Mans? These were hollow magnesium Dymags, slightly modified to those available on the V600 Driving Dynamics Pack with a centre cap rather than exposed wheel nuts.




thegreenhell

15,346 posts

219 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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markcoznottz said:
Turbobanana said:
For half a million quid I think I'd want the rear indicator lenses to be the same colour. Also...

PH said:
The 5.3-litre V8 produced 550hp in standard Vantage form, which already made it the most powerful production car at the time
Does the McLaren F1 not count as a production car?
The McLaren F1 might have stopped production by then. I think the Diablo was the most powerful production car as well for a short time. IIRC on this car they blanked off the sixth speed, and fitted a ‘short shift’ linkage to the box. Probably means it you only needed a lump hammer to change gear instead of the previous sledge hammer.
No, the F1 hadn't even started production when the Vantage was launched. The Aston was available from 1992, and the F1 from late 1993, so the Aston was the most powerful until the F1 arrived.

V8LM

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5,174 posts

209 months

Thursday 25th November 2021
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thegreenhell said:
No, the F1 hadn't even started production when the Vantage was launched. The Aston was available from 1992, and the F1 from late 1993, so the Aston was the most powerful until the F1 arrived.
Not quite. Vantage was launched in October 92 but first cars not delivered until 94 (might have been one in 93).

The 'most powerful production car - In The World' was from Clarkson when he filmed the sequence for Top Gear in the summer of 92. At the time, it wasn't in production. It did have 550 lb ft of torque, which is more than the F1.


Edited by V8LM on Thursday 25th November 10:07