RE: One-owner Subaru Impreza RB5 for sale

RE: One-owner Subaru Impreza RB5 for sale

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anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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They used a 22B type UK, which had prodrive developed Bilstein suspension and taller gearing via its 3.9 diff ratio amongst the differences to a JDM version which uses 4.4 diffs.

What tyres they used would affect the times on the test venue, especially that one being the MIRA wet handling track.

They also used the WRX STi which has VC centre diff, had they used an STi type R or RA they would have been quicker and benefitted from the better handling balance, RA in particular with its front LSD and quickrack and thinner glass.

At the time there was a lot of myths around how to use the DCCD fitted to the 22B, i ended up writing about that, i very much doubt the 22B at MIRA had the diff dialed in correctly, most journalists left it in fully open all the time.

I remember at the time people commenting on the RB5 not having a stock ride height and not using the production suspension, but its ages ago now.

I drove both 22B back in the day, UK gearing was more suited to motorway driving, not as quick cross country, as you would expect. Best of the bunch as a drivers car was what i owned, the STi 5 Type RA.

plenty

4,697 posts

187 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Elatino1 said:
I found on UK roads that the RB5 with about 270bhp and standard suspension was a nicer drive than the v6 STi by some margin.
The v5/v6 JDM spring rates are too harsh for UK roads. UK cars were more compliant. Best of all was the P1, the Prodrive-made springs for which were a work of magic and are highly coveted today.

trails

3,726 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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jsf said:
They used a 22B type UK, which had prodrive developed Bilstein suspension and taller gearing via its 3.9 diff ratio amongst the differences to a JDM version which uses 4.4 diffs.

What tyres they used would affect the times on the test venue, especially that one being the MIRA wet handling track.

They also used the WRX STi which has VC centre diff, had they used an STi type R or RA they would have been quicker and benefitted from the better handling balance, RA in particular with its front LSD and quickrack and thinner glass.

At the time there was a lot of myths around how to use the DCCD fitted to the 22B, i ended up writing about that, i very much doubt the 22B at MIRA had the diff dialed in correctly, most journalists left it in fully open all the time.

I remember at the time people commenting on the RB5 not having a stock ride height and not using the production suspension, but its ages ago now.

I drove both 22B back in the day, UK gearing was more suited to motorway driving, not as quick cross country, as you would expect. Best of the bunch as a drivers car was what i owned, the STi 5 Type RA.
If you are who I think you are I brought your custom ‘quiet’ back box from your RA when you sold the car smile

MuscleSedan

1,552 posts

176 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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Days Like These said:
I was laughed at when years ago I said that these sorts of cars (Evo, Impreza, Skyline...) would be collectible.

Great competition history, fun to drive, aesthetic in their own way, special engineering
I said some time back that when they start gaining proper ground they'll make things like sporting RWD Escorts look cheap. Doesn't seem so long ago I was looking at Impreza's such as a beautiful 2 door Type R that was way under £10k and a super mint, super plain 4 door RA with wind up windows, cage, no rear spoiler etc at £5.5k. Prices are heading one way for sure.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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trails said:
If you are who I think you are I brought your custom ‘quiet’ back box from your RA when you sold the car smile
Indeed, i never liked noisy cars so had that made bespoke by the guy who made my racecar systems, that was off my second WRX STi5 Type RA 555 WRC Limited. biggrin That car was killed not long after I sold it sadly, my first one is still going strong, has over 180K miles on it now.

anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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plenty said:
The v5/v6 JDM spring rates are too harsh for UK roads. UK cars were more compliant. Best of all was the P1, the Prodrive-made springs for which were a work of magic and are highly coveted today.
I never found the JDM spring rates too harsh but i do like a fairly precise setup rather than a floating boat on these type of cars, the worst thing about the P1 was the Pirelli tyres they fitted, absolute garbage, i put a set on my RA for a day from a P1 a friend had, shocking. Their choice of using a brake pad compound that put metal into the paint was also daft. Tyres really made a difference, the Bridgestone S02 PP was the hot ticket back then. Pity they were replaced by the S03 PP, which was not a good tyre compared to the predecessor.

trails

3,726 posts

150 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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jsf said:
Indeed, i never liked noisy cars so had that made bespoke by the guy who made my racecar systems, that was off my second WRX STi5 Type RA 555 WRC Limited. biggrin That car was killed not long after I sold it sadly, my first one is still going strong, has over 180K miles on it now.
I remember when you had it fabricated, was pretty left-field at the time…looks even better on a wagon wink

180k is way below average miles for its age biggrin


anonymous-user

55 months

Sunday 28th November 2021
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trails said:
I remember when you had it fabricated, was pretty left-field at the time…looks even better on a wagon wink

180k is way below average miles for its age biggrin
It's still being used, good stuff.

My first RA spent half its first life on the Nürburgring. biggrin It went to a proper enthusiast, which was a nice thing, great car.
My current JDM STi has 136K on it, had that one nearly 13 years now. eek

zestyfesty

252 posts

100 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Geeze that’s some coin, even accounting for the RB link it’s still a relatively standard GC8 underneath as I read it. As previous posters have mentioned, the unquestionable superiority of the engine, gearbox, transmission in a JDM V5/6 STi Type RA/R make this seem poor value. But I’m not British so perhaps don’t appreciate the significance of the RB link.
That said, market forces are different in different countries (perfect example being your £15k manual 996 is AUD 80k here sadly) and perhaps this is a special car for a British rally fan

trails

3,726 posts

150 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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jsf said:
It's still being used, good stuff.

My first RA spent half its first life on the Nürburgring. biggrin It went to a proper enthusiast, which was a nice thing, great car.
My current JDM STi has 136K on it, had that one nearly 13 years now. eek
I was going to ask if you still had it...must be one of the longest owned and hardest driven in the UK smile

banny650

87 posts

144 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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trails said:
I was going to ask if you still had it...must be one of the longest owned and hardest driven in the UK smile
Get back in the garden and finish ya car

Alan H

144 posts

219 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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jsf said:
It's still being used, good stuff.

My first RA spent half its first life on the Nürburgring. biggrin It went to a proper enthusiast, which was a nice thing, great car.
My current JDM STi has 136K on it, had that one nearly 13 years now. eek


Just ticked over to 186 k miles

19 years ownership

trails

3,726 posts

150 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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banny650 said:
Get back in the garden and finish ya car
I hope you and yours are well Hot Stuff biggrin



GTRene

16,603 posts

225 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Alan H said:


Just ticked over to 186 k miles

19 years ownership
nice one, still looking very good, 19 years ownership, wow.

Hodge4ever

53 posts

148 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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I think I will print off that ad and leave a copy in the car when I next drop mine into the garage for it's next service & MOT (as I know some of the people working there think I am mad for still owning one) laugh

banny650

87 posts

144 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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trails said:
I hope you and yours are well Hot Stuff biggrin
All good my friend, hope you're good too smile

trails

3,726 posts

150 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Alan H said:


Just ticked over to 186 k miles

19 years ownership
Nice looking thing smile

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Fun fact.
When we were all attending rolling road days in our shiny new Imprezas, the UK PPP cars we’re putting out almost the same torque numbers as boggo standard 276bhp P1’s and STI 5/6’s.

It represented a good gain, for an exhaust, ECU and intercooler intake pipe.







Edited by Hol on Monday 29th November 17:27

Scobblelotcher

1,724 posts

113 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Hol said:
Fun fact.
When we were all attending rolling road days in our shiny new Imprezas, the UK PPP cars we’re putting out almost the same torque numbers as boggo standard 276bhp P1’s and STI 5/6’s.

It represented a good gain, for an exhaust, ECU and intercooler intake pipe.







Edited by Hol on Monday 29th November 17:27
My Prodrive RB5 didn't frown - It made 249bhp standard on the rolling road and after a remap with supporting mods like updated fuel pump, air filter and a few other things maxed the turbo out at 271bhp.

Hol

8,419 posts

201 months

Monday 29th November 2021
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Scobblelotcher said:
Hol said:
Fun fact.
When we were all attending rolling road days in our shiny new Imprezas, the UK PPP cars we’re putting out almost the same torque numbers as boggo standard 276bhp P1’s and STI 5/6’s.

It represented a good gain, for an exhaust, ECU and intercooler intake pipe.

Edited by Hol on Monday 29th November 17:27
My Prodrive RB5 didn't frown - It made 249bhp standard on the rolling road and after a remap with supporting mods like updated fuel pump, air filter and a few other things maxed the turbo out at 271bhp.
That sounds about right for the ‘BHP’, but the PPP cars also had around 255ibs of Torque. The same amount of Torque as a Ver 5/6 STI derivative engine.

https://impreza.co/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/1999...

Edited by Hol on Monday 29th November 18:07