RE: One-owner Subaru Impreza RB5 for sale
Discussion
Drove some Imprezas of this era when new and loved them all. Would like the Q-car image of the estate best, I think, but £40k here seems OTT to me.
I reckon that makes my £10k (bought on impulse in lockdown 1) immaculate 916 GTV 3.0 V6 a bargain - anyone want to give me £30k for it? Or do I have to become a dealer to dream up these prices?
I reckon that makes my £10k (bought on impulse in lockdown 1) immaculate 916 GTV 3.0 V6 a bargain - anyone want to give me £30k for it? Or do I have to become a dealer to dream up these prices?
mrmotorhome said:
Drove some Imprezas of this era when new and loved them all.
I really enjoyed the three different Impreza Turbo versions that I drove at the time as well. However I enjoyed the Mitsubishi Evo 8(330bhp) more(I had one for a 24hr test drive). That Evo was genuinely one of the best cars that I've ever had a go in. I really should've ticked the Impreza Turbo or Evo box I reckon back then.
Augustus Windsock said:
I didn’t say ‘power oversteer’, I said a whiff of, the former intimates to me how my old RS Cosworth used to stick its back end out.
And it depends how you approach a bend/corner don’t forget, a lift of throttle immediately followed by a judicious jump on the throttle and….
Anyhoo….
I think that reply was aimed at ChunkChunky?And it depends how you approach a bend/corner don’t forget, a lift of throttle immediately followed by a judicious jump on the throttle and….
Anyhoo….
sean ie3 said:
I remember these on Collin McRae Rally on the PS1, my only experience sadly, I dialled all of the power to the rear axle and got around all of the stages much faster. I don't know if anybody cured the understeer on a road car using the same method. 
Understeer mainly afflicts cars with the viscous centre diff and 50/50 torque split. STi models with DCCD have more rear bias and are more neutral out of the box.plenty said:
sean ie3 said:
I remember these on Collin McRae Rally on the PS1, my only experience sadly, I dialled all of the power to the rear axle and got around all of the stages much faster. I don't know if anybody cured the understeer on a road car using the same method.
Understeer mainly afflicts cars with the viscous centre diff and 50/50 torque split. STi models with DCCD have more rear bias and are more neutral out of the box.
Prohibiting said:
This is laughably overpriced for what is basically a Turbo 2000 with a few extra bits.
If you want a proper classic Impreza, import an STI version (280bhp, higher red line, few other bits etc) from Japan for similar money. It’ll blow it away and appreciate just as much.
This , the U.K. cars were a piss take !! the most basic turbo model with tiny brakes and the least spec and power , then there was the mutton dressed as lamb If you want a proper classic Impreza, import an STI version (280bhp, higher red line, few other bits etc) from Japan for similar money. It’ll blow it away and appreciate just as much.
Edited by Prohibiting on Friday 26th November 17:06
Over priced special additions ,
Yep get the real thing the STi etc from Japan .
I remember how upset IM were when we started to get the Japanese grey imports !!
Very silly money for one of these. They've been overhyped for years. Nothing special about paint and stickers. If it had the full WR Sport spec (including the rather good Prodrive inverted Bilsteins) it may be a bit more desirable. And from personal experience, a full history from that particular dealer is not necessarily a good selling point, in my opinion. I sold my 2 owner 60k miles '99 wagon with PPP, Prodrive suspension, and nice light 16" TE37s for £4k about 5 years ago, and thought I'd done well.
Sad Weevil said:
Very silly money for one of these. They've been overhyped for years. Nothing special about paint and stickers. If it had the full WR Sport spec (including the rather good Prodrive inverted Bilsteins) it may be a bit more desirable. And from personal experience, a full history from that particular dealer is not necessarily a good selling point, in my opinion. I sold my 2 owner 60k miles '99 wagon with PPP, Prodrive suspension, and nice light 16" TE37s for £4k about 5 years ago, and thought I'd done well.
I've been saying this for a while now but oplder Japanese cars have been shooting up in price over the last few years. Impreza STI and Skylines (mostly 2.0 or 2.5 GTST) were everywhere. Then there were Integra Type R's, Starlet/Glanza Turbos, Altezza (Toyota JDM version of Lexus IS200) 180 SX, S13 and S14 Silvia, were common sights on Irish roads. They got so cheap they were worth more in breaking for parts and a lot were written off. Even looking at the Japanese auction sites the prices have risen a lot but low supply and high demand will do that. I regret not taking an EK9 Civic Type R when I had the chance, and now they're making far more than I'm willing to spend on a 21 year old Civic.trails said:
plenty said:
Thanks for clarifying, and apologies for perpetuating the urban myth. So if anything the base RB5 will handle worse than the UK2000 as the only difference is bigger wheels.
The RB5 did have a solid rear bulkhead. I owned two and both had it. I seem to remember the RB5 had the STi 5 body but not 100% on that. Maybe some of the first cars didn’t or were repaired?
The Prodrive WR sport model which had the Prodrive suspension handled significantly better than U.K. 2000, I’d go as far as say it was night and day difference between the two. I owned a turbo 2000 and a RB5 Prodrive WR sport model at the same time for a few years (his and hers).
The RB5 Prodrive WR sport model also a different ECU, large rear wing, different suspension, quick shift, changes to some of the intercooling piping/routing and a few other minor changes, exhaust and LSD and this is why EVO rated it so highly. I was fortunate to own several different classics and owned the RB5 and U.K. 2000 at the same time so can tell you it was a far better car than the U.K. 2000.
Both cars though with the factory setup under steered like that was no tomorrow. The thicker anti-roll bar did make a lot of difference in dialling out the understeer and with some other suspension changes the cars could be fairly neutral.
As for people complaining about the price, I can kind of understand but this was a limited model when it was released and was in homage to the wonderful Richard Burn’s (rip) with the 5 being his number. All cars came with the spot light coverings. So limited run car paying homage to an amazing world champion no longer with us.
Also the RB5 Prodrive WR sport model looked superb with its body kit, large rear wing and colour.
With all that said, I’m not suggesting it was the best classic but the full fat RB5 is significantly different than the U.K. turbo.
My favourite classic was the Type R and then the 22B.
Edited by Scobblelotcher on Friday 26th November 22:09
trails said:
You are getting confused between the Prodrive Performance Pack and the WR Sport package; the PPP is an ecu and exhaust upgrade only...advert states it is a PPP with 240bhp.
Good to see you clarifying things 
Have you still got yours, and is it on the road yet?
JDM classics are where it's at in my opinion, but what do I know...
I quite like this one, although it might be slightly tweaked though...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...
Phil74 said:
trails said:
You are getting confused between the Prodrive Performance Pack and the WR Sport package; the PPP is an ecu and exhaust upgrade only...advert states it is a PPP with 240bhp.
Good to see you clarifying things Have you still got yours, and is it on the road yet?
JDM classics are where it's at in my opinion, but what do I know...
I quite like this one, although it might be slightly tweaked though...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...
Scobblelotcher said:
Phil74 said:
trails said:
You are getting confused between the Prodrive Performance Pack and the WR Sport package; the PPP is an ecu and exhaust upgrade only...advert states it is a PPP with 240bhp.
Good to see you clarifying things Have you still got yours, and is it on the road yet?
JDM classics are where it's at in my opinion, but what do I know...
I quite like this one, although it might be slightly tweaked though...
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&...
Steve's (the drag car) has got some beans though!
https://youtu.be/k_BE-E522Vs
Edited by Phil74 on Friday 26th November 23:00
Scobblelotcher said:
The RB5 Prodrive WR sport model also a different ECU, large rear wing, different suspension, quick shift, changes to some of the intercooling piping/routing and a few other minor changes, exhaust and LSD and this is why EVO rated it so highly.
The Prodrive Bilsteins and springs were indeed excellent but NOT standard on the WR Sport package.The WR Sport added the PPP (which you could order for any MY99/00 car) and the big wing, and that's it. (The quick shift already came with the base RB5, and the diffs and gearbox on the Turbo 2000, RB5 and RB5 WR Sport were identical.)
The trick Prodrive suspension was a dealer-fit option not included on the WR Sport.
If evo's RB5s were fitted with Prodrive suspension that would explain why they liked them so much, but a MY99 UK2000 with PPP and Prodrive suspension is the exact same car minus the paint, stickers and quick shift.
plenty said:
The Prodrive Bilsteins and springs were indeed excellent but NOT standard on the WR Sport package.
The WR Sport added the PPP (which you could order for any MY99/00 car) and the big wing, and that's it. (The quick shift already came with the base RB5, and the diffs and gearbox on the Turbo 2000, RB5 and RB5 WR Sport were identical.)
The trick Prodrive suspension was a dealer-fit option not included on the WR Sport.
If evo's RB5s were fitted with Prodrive suspension that would explain why they liked them so much, but a MY99 UK2000 with PPP and Prodrive suspension is the exact same car minus the paint, stickers and quick shift.
All correct, the Rb5 was just a cosmetic model over the U.K. 220 Wrx. The rb5 WR only had very limited performance upgrades _ a mild power upgrade etc suspension was not changed - but the WR models were a huge improvement to drive over the standard Rb5 (which always felt like it was stangled).The WR Sport added the PPP (which you could order for any MY99/00 car) and the big wing, and that's it. (The quick shift already came with the base RB5, and the diffs and gearbox on the Turbo 2000, RB5 and RB5 WR Sport were identical.)
The trick Prodrive suspension was a dealer-fit option not included on the WR Sport.
If evo's RB5s were fitted with Prodrive suspension that would explain why they liked them so much, but a MY99 UK2000 with PPP and Prodrive suspension is the exact same car minus the paint, stickers and quick shift.
This price is quite simply taking the piss. Real life example I sold a 1 owner low mileage never modified P1 last year - 5ok miles never modified or painted that sold for £24k and it took a while to find a genuine buyer . The P1 is a very special model, the RB5 was never that special has no Sti bits on it.
evojam said:
TEKNOPUG said:
£15k is where I would be on it also.
15K!!??Very fairly priced at 40k,will be sold before the New Year I'd expect..
Edited by evojam on Friday 26th November 17:00
But given we now appear to live in a full on idiocracy with more idiots than ever, then you're probably right and it will sell.
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