JLR first 12 months, Cannot sell new car unless to JLR?

JLR first 12 months, Cannot sell new car unless to JLR?

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Mikebentley

6,105 posts

140 months

Saturday 25th December 2021
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But the imported vehicle at that point is unobtainium so therefore can demand a premium.

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

170 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Dixy said:
A shame that JLR don't put the same effort into aftersales care.
... or indeed wider customer care. I can still use the LR Remote app to "see" a car which I sold to a JLR dealer about 6 months ago. I can see what journeys the new owner has made in it, what the mileage now is, how much fuel it has, whether it has any issues. I could start it remotely, pre-heat the cabin and right now I can see that it is unlocked and tempting though it might be, I am not going to see if I can lock it. It could be that those facilities are locked out somehow, but all the functions appear to be available.
Yes of course I could just delete the app, or I could notify JLR of the potential issue, but I would prefer to have some confidence that LR would disable access for previous owners as a matter of course. If I identified myself to them I have no confidence that they would not simply address the issue for this one car rather than derive a more comprehensive solution.

Spleen

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
... or indeed wider customer care. I can still use the LR Remote app to "see" a car which I sold to a JLR dealer about 6 months ago. I can see what journeys the new owner has made in it, what the mileage now is, how much fuel it has, whether it has any issues. I could start it remotely, pre-heat the cabin and right now I can see that it is unlocked and tempting though it might be, I am not going to see if I can lock it. It could be that those facilities are locked out somehow, but all the functions appear to be available.
Yes of course I could just delete the app, or I could notify JLR of the potential issue, but I would prefer to have some confidence that LR would disable access for previous owners as a matter of course. If I identified myself to them I have no confidence that they would not simply address the issue for this one car rather than derive a more comprehensive solution.
Why on earth wouldn't you delete it? What a strange thing to do.

carl_w

9,180 posts

258 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
... or indeed wider customer care. I can still use the LR Remote app to "see" a car which I sold to a JLR dealer about 6 months ago. I can see what journeys the new owner has made in it, what the mileage now is, how much fuel it has, whether it has any issues. I could start it remotely, pre-heat the cabin and right now I can see that it is unlocked and tempting though it might be, I am not going to see if I can lock it. It could be that those facilities are locked out somehow, but all the functions appear to be available.
Yes of course I could just delete the app, or I could notify JLR of the potential issue, but I would prefer to have some confidence that LR would disable access for previous owners as a matter of course. If I identified myself to them I have no confidence that they would not simply address the issue for this one car rather than derive a more comprehensive solution.
When I sent our last BMW back I did a "delete all data" from the iDrive. Presumably you could have (should have) done that with your LR? And presumably without doing so the new driver can see all of your driving history, including where you live?

RUSSELLM

6,000 posts

247 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
Dixy said:
A shame that JLR don't put the same effort into aftersales care.
... or indeed wider customer care. I can still use the LR Remote app to "see" a car which I sold to a JLR dealer about 6 months ago. I can see what journeys the new owner has made in it, what the mileage now is, how much fuel it has, whether it has any issues. I could start it remotely, pre-heat the cabin and right now I can see that it is unlocked and tempting though it might be, I am not going to see if I can lock it. It could be that those facilities are locked out somehow, but all the functions appear to be available.
Yes of course I could just delete the app, or I could notify JLR of the potential issue, but I would prefer to have some confidence that LR would disable access for previous owners as a matter of course. If I identified myself to them I have no confidence that they would not simply address the issue for this one car rather than derive a more comprehensive solution.
Could be worse.

At least you got those services working on your LR.

My BMW’s still where I left it, about 2 years ago, apparently. The last 22,000 miles, must have all been a dream.

Adrian250

166 posts

128 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Love to know how Urban have managed to get a seemingly endless supply of new defenders. Some dealer is missing out big time judging by the markup Urban make on each sale...

Lily the Pink

5,783 posts

170 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Spleen said:
Why on earth wouldn't you delete it? What a strange thing to do.
Read the second paragraph of my post.

Spleen

5,453 posts

121 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Lily the Pink said:
Spleen said:
Why on earth wouldn't you delete it? What a strange thing to do.
Read the second paragraph of my post.
Read this: just delete it and stop trying to be clever.

RudeBoy

405 posts

32 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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Adrian250 said:
Love to know how Urban have managed to get a seemingly endless supply of new defenders. Some dealer is missing out big time judging by the markup Urban make on each sale...
Going by the last video their supply has dried up and are only doing secondhand or customer cars.

Mikebentley

6,105 posts

140 months

Monday 27th December 2021
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I believe Urban and others don’t have any. It’s another reason if you get one you can sell for a premium.

yoof01

1 posts

21 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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I had to sign something similar from Pendragon Group, agreed not to sell my New Range Rover within 6 months or I’d be liable for losses direct or indirect. The dealer told me they get a 20-30k fine if the car is resold. Car has come forward and is due in a few weeks, not sure if I want to play this game though, customers shouldn’t be put in this position… might just bin it off.

anonymous-user

54 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Be interested to see how that document would stand up in court, not allowing you to sell your own property?

I suspect it would be defined as an unfair contract and thrown out of court. However, you might never be allowed to buy another one?

ChocolateFrog

25,327 posts

173 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Surely just an idle threat.

I think we would have seen it in the media if someone had been sued by their local dealer for selling their own car.

Durzel

12,267 posts

168 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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I'm probably being a bit simple, but if you don't agree with the contract then surely you can just decide not to buy the car?

Where is the logic in signing something and then trying to claim that it is unfair? The contract is not being imposed on you, you can choose not to purchase the vehicle.

swisstoni

16,997 posts

279 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Durzel said:
I'm probably being a bit simple, but if you don't agree with the contract then surely you can just decide not to buy the car?

Where is the logic in signing something and then trying to claim that it is unfair? The contract is not being imposed on you, you can choose not to purchase the vehicle.
Yes, I can’t really give much of a toss about anyone involved in this little matter.

Hugo Stiglitz

37,126 posts

211 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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How will they know that you no longer own your own property?


I'd be interested to know if they can prove a fine received by the manufacturer.

In addition an unfair contract.

They have no interest in the vehicle once sold.

It's about them wanting to soak up resale/stock...

Han Solo

191 posts

25 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Surely ‘your’ property depends how you’ve purchased it?

Cash, fair enough.

HP / PCP through JLR …

geeks

9,184 posts

139 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Wasn't there a thread on here recently where a chap got caught doing this and is now banned from new LR products or something?

cayman-black

12,644 posts

216 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Some Independent dealers seem to get quite a few, I see Acklam have a new one to sell nearly every week so no restrictions on them.

A big premium also.

NomduJour

19,107 posts

259 months

Tuesday 19th July 2022
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
It's about them wanting to soak up resale/stock...
By forcing the selling dealer to buy it back no matter the premium?