RE: Toyota GR86 UK pricing confirmed

RE: Toyota GR86 UK pricing confirmed

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LeoSayer

7,315 posts

245 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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I paid a deposit to my local Toyota dealer to get me first in the queue when the order book opens.

Electric blue manual.

I feel like I have been doing all the chasing and informing them of things they didn't know.

S6 ROR

1,583 posts

266 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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So, just been and placed deposit at Cambridge Toyota this morning, gone for red.
I was the first one to go in and place a deposit, which surprised me somewhat, as thought there would have been several people already placed one.
But it’s done now, and now feeling very excitedthumbup

Nefos

253 posts

85 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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S6 ROR said:
So, just been and placed deposit at Cambridge Toyota this morning, gone for red.
I was the first one to go in and place a deposit, which surprised me somewhat, as thought there would have been several people already placed one.
But it’s done now, and now feeling very excitedthumbup
I feel like there is a chance that it will be more popular then the GT 86 but that car was not really popular here, especially considering how popular it was elsewhere like USA. Plus I cannot see how an improved yet largely the same car could pull in largely more sales compared to the previous generations.

So yes, the enthusiasts and GR fans are going to buy this car, maybe more, but as we know, enthusiasts are only a small amount of the buyers in general.

PTF

4,383 posts

225 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Such a shame the back seats aren't much use.

I looked seriously at the older model of these and the lack of rear legroom (none!) was a deal breaker.

£30k seems like a decent deal.

callahan

890 posts

207 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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S6 ROR said:
So, just been and placed deposit at Cambridge Toyota this morning, gone for red.
I was the first one to go in and place a deposit, which surprised me somewhat, as thought there would have been several people already placed one.
But it’s done now, and now feeling very excitedthumbup
That is surprising. Toyota Bishop's Stortford (same group) told me yesterday that they have 3 confirmed orders (I'm in pole position smile ), with another one due tomorrow.

Regarding dealers knowing little about the cars - I had the same experience, but you can understand it when all they've been sent is the launch pack. Toyota UK really haven't done them any favours.

Seano1878

82 posts

29 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Looks like forged alloys are an option in Germany too, €3000 odd.

C70R

17,596 posts

105 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Nefos said:
S6 ROR said:
So, just been and placed deposit at Cambridge Toyota this morning, gone for red.
I was the first one to go in and place a deposit, which surprised me somewhat, as thought there would have been several people already placed one.
But it’s done now, and now feeling very excitedthumbup
I feel like there is a chance that it will be more popular then the GT 86 but that car was not really popular here, especially considering how popular it was elsewhere like USA. Plus I cannot see how an improved yet largely the same car could pull in largely more sales compared to the previous generations.

So yes, the enthusiasts and GR fans are going to buy this car, maybe more, but as we know, enthusiasts are only a small amount of the buyers in general.
So much this.

10-15 people on the internet who've placed deposits doesn't equate to a stampede.

There's been so much assumption that this car is going to sell out, and it's going to enjoy strong residuals because of demand (and being "the last hurrah for ICE"/"the last true manual/analogue sports car" laugh). I have a suspicion that many are going into it because they think they might do well financially out of it. That wouldn't be high up on my list of reasons for buying a car.

LeoSayer

7,315 posts

245 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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C70R said:
10-15 people on the internet who've placed deposits doesn't equate to a stampede.

There's been so much assumption that this car is going to sell out, and it's going to enjoy strong residuals because of demand (and being "the last hurrah for ICE"/"the last true manual/analogue sports car" laugh). I have a suspicion that many are going into it because they think they might do well financially out of it. That wouldn't be high up on my list of reasons for buying a car.
Toyota may well have done a good job in creating a narrative around scarcity to increase demand that will increase sales.

It certainly has piqued my interest enough to buy new when ordinarily I'd be waiting a few years for used prices to drop.

But above all, if all the reviews are to be believed, they have produced a great handling, good looking, reasonably quick car with few compromises at a great price.

It'd be great if the car held it's value but for me it's an entirely emotional decision. I can afford and I really want it, so I'm buying it.

nickfrog

21,302 posts

218 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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^ that's the right attitude although I will want a long test drive before commiting. I had a GT86 and should have driven it more before buying. I am hoping the new engine is considerably less shyte than the old (standard) one.

Bizarro

142 posts

176 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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I’ve just called into dealership near to me (Vertu) and the salesman there was very honest in his opinion that in the UK demand will not outstrip supply. They have had 3 confirmed orders.

It’s a question of if you want one and want it July/August then you need to order prior to the dealers getting their demonstrators, otherwise you are looking late 2022 but in his opinion there is no doubt you will be able to order one, it won’t be as popular as the GR Yaris.

Left my contact details and will revisit once they get their demonstrator.

Gooly

965 posts

149 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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LeoSayer said:
C70R said:
10-15 people on the internet who've placed deposits doesn't equate to a stampede.

There's been so much assumption that this car is going to sell out, and it's going to enjoy strong residuals because of demand (and being "the last hurrah for ICE"/"the last true manual/analogue sports car" laugh). I have a suspicion that many are going into it because they think they might do well financially out of it. That wouldn't be high up on my list of reasons for buying a car.
Toyota may well have done a good job in creating a narrative around scarcity to increase demand that will increase sales.

It certainly has piqued my interest enough to buy new when ordinarily I'd be waiting a few years for used prices to drop.

But above all, if all the reviews are to be believed, they have produced a great handling, good looking, reasonably quick car with few compromises at a great price.

It'd be great if the car held it's value but for me it's an entirely emotional decision. I can afford and I really want it, so I'm buying it.
Exact same for me. Residuals are a bonus and help justify the purchase but ultimately I’ve put a deposit down because this is the car I’ve been begging an OEM to make for 20 years now and someone’s actually gone ahead and done it at a price I can afford. If I like driving it as much as I hope I will, I will likely keep it for a very very long time regardless.

I do think this is the last hurrah for a small light manual rwd car like this. Dwindling market and new regulations mean it won’t be viable anymore. I can’t see anyone bothering once Euro 7 / fleet regs / new safety regs / ASL etc comes in. I’d be happy to be proven wrong but thats my hunch.

Also more than anything I think it looks great!

Oh also RE deposits - deposits aren’t a Toyota UK sanctioned thing. They are an unofficial agreement for the dealer to place an order once the books open. Not all dealers offer them - I rang 8 dealers in SE England and none of them offered deposits or knew much about the GR86. I think these cars will be very hyped once UK reviews etc start hitting youtube. Whether or not demand outstrips allocation and prices stay high, I have no idea - I certainly dont think its impossible though.

Edited by Gooly on Friday 8th April 15:25

Honeywell

1,381 posts

99 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Delahorney said:
Olivera said:
That would rule out the darker colours for me (black, dark grey), as there's no contrast between the paint and wheel colour.
Understandable! I won't be keeping the standard wheels on there long. Going for something bronze against the dark grey paint.
Something like mine?




Delahorney

161 posts

147 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Honeywell said:
Something like mine?



That’s a smart looking car. But I was thinking something more like the colour of my current wheels.

Volare

406 posts

64 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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LeoSayer said:
Toyota may well have done a good job in creating a narrative around scarcity to increase demand that will increase sales.

It certainly has piqued my interest enough to buy new when ordinarily I'd be waiting a few years for used prices to drop.

But above all, if all the reviews are to be believed, they have produced a great handling, good looking, reasonably quick car with few compromises at a great price.

It'd be great if the car held it's value but for me it's an entirely emotional decision. I can afford and I really want it, so I'm buying it.
Kind of wrong to do that to people really as it twists peoples arm, then its only when they are sat in the car they might realise its not for them, as you say there are compromises, those expecting to use the rear seats are going to be disappointed along with those who are used to riding on waves of torque from turbocharged engines.

Seano1878

82 posts

29 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Similar reasons to the above for buying one, I’ve always had fwd hot hatches and fancy something different, as soon as I saw the GR I loved the looks but the feedback from markets that already have them has been excellent and that sealed it.

The production being capped at two years definitely means they’ll be limited, there are people still waiting for their GR Yaris that they ordered over a year ago so Toyota aren’t going to commit themselves to cars they can’t build and sell before the 2024 deadline. Also with new regs and new tech like the assisted speed limiters coming in for cars type approved after July this year I really do doubt we’ll see a car like this again that can be had at 30k brand new.

My plan is to keep it stock for a few years to see what sort of issues crop up with modified ones and then go from there. They sound good with unequal length headers and an aftermarket exhaust.

Delahorney

161 posts

147 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Not sure why people are getting up in arms about having to order the car sight unseen. There’ll be demonstrators in June, a month before deliveries start, and if you don’t like it then you can take your deposit back and walk.

nickfrog

21,302 posts

218 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Delahorney said:
Not sure why people are getting up in arms about having to order the car sight unseen. There’ll be demonstrators in June, a month before deliveries start, and if you don’t like it then you can take your deposit back and walk.
I haven't noticed anyone getting up in arms. confused

Delahorney

161 posts

147 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Seano1878 said:
Similar reasons to the above for buying one, I’ve always had fwd hot hatches and fancy something different, as soon as I saw the GR I loved the looks but the feedback from markets that already have them has been excellent and that sealed it.

The production being capped at two years definitely means they’ll be limited, there are people still waiting for their GR Yaris that they ordered over a year ago so Toyota aren’t going to commit themselves to cars they can’t build and sell before the 2024 deadline. Also with new regs and new tech like the assisted speed limiters coming in for cars type approved after July this year I really do doubt we’ll see a car like this again that can be had at 30k brand new.

My plan is to keep it stock for a few years to see what sort of issues crop up with modified ones and then go from there. They sound good with unequal length headers and an aftermarket exhaust.
Catback exhaust, springs and wheels off the bat for me. Well, after the run in period at least. Spent the last few days looking at which exhaust sounds best on the GT.

Honeywell

1,381 posts

99 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Delahorney said:
Catback exhaust, springs and wheels off the bat for me. Well, after the run in period at least. Spent the last few days looking at which exhaust sounds best on the GT.
You mean like exactly this?

https://youtu.be/okQwE544xlw

Delahorney

161 posts

147 months

Friday 8th April 2022
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Honeywell said:
You mean like exactly this?

https://youtu.be/okQwE544xlw
You are a wealth of knowledge!