RE: All-new Range Rover Sport revealed

RE: All-new Range Rover Sport revealed

Author
Discussion

bluemason

785 posts

100 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
The previous gen facelift is still a great looking car.I am not a fan of the rear.

Cold

12,807 posts

67 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
fantheman80 said:
But I’ve still got the hump on these renders with virtual wheel spacers giving them ‘stance’. Why the fk can’t manufacturers take a decent photo of the real thing anymore
Any better?


thecremeegg

1,735 posts

180 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Not a fan of SUVs in general but RR do make the best looking ones, of which this might be their best for a while.

dandare

938 posts

231 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
I've always thought the RR sports looked pretty poor, but this is definitely an improvement.
It still isn't a patch on the FFRR, and it shouldn't be, because it's in another class, I suppose.

The new RR sport is way nicer than the Bentayga, Cullinan, and all of the other luxury softroaders.

Dohnut

161 posts

23 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
All new? Just looks face lifted to me.

Never really understood the point of these either. Not very spacious given the size. Not very sporty given the name.

mrclav

987 posts

200 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
nickfrog said:
notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.

On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.

Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.

It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.

Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.

We, and our kids, deserve better.
Stop having kids if you really care about sustainability.
My thought precisely. I have no kids, will never have kids and couldn't care less about notreads kids.

Edited by mrclav on Tuesday 10th May 21:51

oedipus

240 posts

43 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
To the JLR person mentioning ‘sustainability’ - go have a look at what you’ve made, have a gander at a dictionary, and then get back to me.

fantheman80

632 posts

26 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Cold said:
fantheman80 said:
But I’ve still got the hump on these renders with virtual wheel spacers giving them ‘stance’. Why the fk can’t manufacturers take a decent photo of the real thing anymore
Any better?

Thanks! actually those wheels look tiny, I prefer the renders :-)

Cold

12,807 posts

67 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
ecs0set said:
Also, the top petrol (in the reveal vid) did not sound anywhere near as evil as the old SVR frown
Just to pick up on this point, the L461 RRS SVR is yet to be announced. So the exhaust note on the launch "top petrol" model will not be tuned to be overtly raucous.
The noise of my own L494 V8 supercharged is definitely related to the L494 SVR, there's even some occasional overrun gurgling, but it is (thankfully) nowhere near as head turning as the sound the SVR makes.

Cups Renault

108 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
witten said:
notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.

On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.

Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.

It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.

Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.

We, and our kids, deserve better.
Personally I lived in the East side of the Cotswolds and don't see them all that often.

And on the rest - yes they can but no one would buy them. The purpose of any business is to make money by developing a product that sells.
I live in this area too. They are everywhere. Normally bought at 3-4 years old (just in time for the depreciation and running costs to really kick in) and on the never never, owned by folk with a modest semi detached new build and paying down against p!ss take APR.


Range Rover is to what Burberry was in the mid 00s. They project the opposite of what the owners try and convey.

Cups Renault

108 posts

178 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
mrclav said:
nickfrog said:
notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.

On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.

Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.

It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.

Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.

We, and our kids, deserve better.
Stop having kids if you really care about sustainability.
My thought precisely. I have no kids, will never have kids and couldn't care less about notreads kids.

Edited by mrclav on Tuesday 10th May 21:51
What an odd mindset.

Procreation in an increasingly age lopsided generational divide, bad.

Poncing around in a heavily financed chintz wagon, good.

benzinbob

727 posts

33 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Cold said:
notread said:
No doubt these'll be all over the Cotswolds like a rash before too long. Black with "cherished plates". I look forward to seeing them looming in my mirror as they tailgate me through every 30 limit.

On a serious note, the lack of design ambition and relevance is depressing. Land Rover are not alone in this, but as a pedlar of essentially oversized, supposedly luxury vehicles, they're certainly part of the problem.

Manufacturers and designers - especially "premium" brands - don't just pander to customer demand, they actively create that demand. They define what's aspirational and influence customer behaviour. It's high time they recognised that responsibility and "nudged" people toward better choices.

It's within the capability of the automotive industry to make a virtue of efficient packaging, lighter weight, smaller wheels and tyres, lower-drag etc. Designers need to redefine luxury, creating beauty through simplicity and intelligent, honest use of sustainable materials. And they need to do it quickly, because the sh*t is hitting the fan now, not 20 years in the future.

Instead, the auto industry seems intent on perpetuating the idea that luxury = BIG, with dozens of different materials, processes and surface finishes, few of which serve any practical purpose and most of which are expensive (in terms of money, resources and energy) to produce and difficult or impossible to resuse or recycle.

We, and our kids, deserve better.
Zzzzz. sleep
Luxury = BIG has been the formula since 1920.

geo1905

80 posts

41 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Yes please, I'd love one. It looks great. We should be proud that we can still make great cars like this in the UK and that so many are exported to willing buyers. Let's stop moaning and whinging and "just get on with it" (Prince Philip)

Deranged Rover

1,737 posts

51 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
That does look great and the rear is definitely something of an improvement on the Range Rover

But obviously I hate it on principle.

SidewaysSi

10,447 posts

211 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Going to buy one for the wife to drive the kids to school..will probably go for the SVR I think. May get it modded too.

M.F.D

385 posts

78 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Coming to a reality TV show near you....

iphonedyou

8,274 posts

134 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Cups Renault said:
I live in this area too. They are everywhere. Normally bought at 3-4 years old (just in time for the depreciation and running costs to really kick in) and on the never never, owned by folk with a modest semi detached new build and paying down against p!ss take APR.
How do you know this? Why is their depreciation really kicking in at year four where for most cars depreciation is most painful across the first three years?

So many questions.

aaron_2000

5,244 posts

60 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
notread said:
Deleting due to moronic replies. Should've known better than to share an opinion (or unpalatable truths) on an internet forum.

Edited by notread on Tuesday 10th May 20:52
Get over yourself

nickfrog

16,869 posts

194 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Cups Renault said:
I live in this area too. They are everywhere. Normally bought at 3-4 years old (just in time for the depreciation and running costs to really kick in) and on the never never, owned by folk with a modest semi detached new build and paying down against p!ss take APR.


Range Rover is to what Burberry was in the mid 00s. They project the opposite of what the owners try and convey.
You're probably trying to read too much into it by making sweeping statements. Or perhaps it's your area.

You have no idea about other people's financial situation, nor should you really.

Live and let live, do your own thing. Stop projecting.



J4CKO

36,438 posts

177 months

Tuesday 10th May
quotequote all
Looks alright if you like that sort of thing, many do so must be something in it, not something I particularly desire but I bet I would secretly quite enjoy having one.

Does amaze me how many there are about, ok, we live in Cheshire but they are everywhere. Must be a lot of folk quite happy to spend 90 grand plus on a car, or whatever they cost to lease, which I guess is a grand a month give or take.