RE: 2022 Dacia Duster Extreme SE | PH Review

[nickfrog]

valiant said:

Zlat502 said:

They just don't make sense at this money, imho.

What’s the equivalent Quasqai, Tiguan, Kuga, etc go for in top spec?

A damn sight more than 22k I imagine. Hell, you can even spec a Tiguan to over 50k these days.

If you want a new, warrantied up car you can’t get much more VFM than Dacia these days.

I think you get better value with a Kia Xceed compared to the higher spec Dacia. We bought one last year and while prices have gone up since then, it was discounted down to £20k for a 3 with a 1.5t 160hp DCT. Probably closer to £22.5k now.

[Silvanus]

nickfrog said:

valiant said:

Zlat502 said:

They just don't make sense at this money, imho.

What’s the equivalent Quasqai, Tiguan, Kuga, etc go for in top spec?

A damn sight more than 22k I imagine. Hell, you can even spec a Tiguan to over 50k these days.

If you want a new, warrantied up car you can’t get much more VFM than Dacia these days.

I think you get better value with a Kia Xceed compared to the higher spec Dacia. We bought one last year and while prices have gone up since then, it was discounted down to 20k for a 3 with a 1.5t 160hp DCT. Probably closer to 22.5k now.

Is an xceed a comparable car? they actually look pretty decent but its just a jacked up ceed hatchback, the Duster is quite different. Kia don't really do a direct rival to the Duster, sportage is much bigger now and the Kona is a size down

[nickfrog]

Silvanus said:

Is an xceed a comparable car? they actually look pretty decent but its just a jacked up ceed hatchback, the Duster is quite different. Kia don't really do a direct rival to the Duster, sportage is much bigger now and the Kona is a size down

It was comparable for us as a raised family hatchback, albeit not quite as raised indeed but better value.

[XR]

Probably the Suzuki Vitara is the nearest equivalant

[HTP99]

XR said:

Probably the Suzuki Vitara is the nearest equivalant

Typically for us if a Duster enquiry is looking at something else too, it's generally an MG ZS.

[Silvanus]

XR said:

Probably the Suzuki Vitara is the nearest equivalant

Id say so, along with the Ssangyong Trivoli, both of which were were not as good as the previous gen Duster when tested in 2016 and are still on sale unchanged and more expensive than the equivalent Duster.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/ssangyong/tivoli/971...

The MG ZS is also a similar car, but again falls behind the MG in a few road tests.

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/dacia/duster/351814/...

If they get the 2024 Duster pricing right and keep a cheaper lower spec entry level vehicle in the line-up it could be a cracker, especially as a 4x4 hybrid

[corinthian]

I’m intrigued to know who, according to the graffiti in the photo, has the saggy belly and who is the “fab bh”?

[nickfrog]

The Vitara is around 7 inches shorter than the Duster but yes externally it does look like it.

Edited by nickfrog on Tuesday 24th May 11:46

[valiant]

nickfrog said:

The Vitara is around 8 inches shorter than the Duster but yes externally it does look like it.

The Vitara in equivalent spec (ZS5?) starts just shy of £28k before options and discounts. That’s a big lift from the £22k for the Duster mentioned.

At this price point for a new car that does make a significant difference albeit the Vitara is probably a nicer place to sit and maybe better screwed together.

I would say the nearest competitor would be the MG and I’d have a Duster over that any day.

[nickfrog]

valiant said:

The Vitara in equivalent spec (ZS5?) starts just shy of 28k before options and discounts. That’s a big lift from the 22k for the Duster mentioned.

At this price point for a new car that does make a significant difference albeit the Vitara is probably a nicer place to sit and maybe better screwed together.

I would say the nearest competitor would be the MG and I’d have a Duster over that any day.

True and that's where I see the value of a manual 1.5T Xceed in 3 trim at £20.5k after discount as it is a little longer and better equipped, not to mention the 7 year warranty. But then again perhaps there are discounts on the Duster?

[anonymous-user]

nickfrog said:

True and that's where I see the value of a manual 1.5T Xceed in 3 trim at 20.5k after discount as it is a little longer and better equipped, not to mention the 7 year warranty. But then again perhaps there are discounts on the Duster?

In my experience of using Car Wow, the best you can hope for is a few hundred pounds off, a set of mats and a tank of fuel. I just ended up ordering my car from the nearest dealer and paying list as I didn't fancy travelling over 100 miles on public transport and a day out of my life to collect a car to save the equivalent of 250.

I suspect two train tickets and the fuel to get back would eat up most of that saving.

Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 24th May 12:13

[XR]

valiant said:

The Vitara in equivalent spec (ZS5?) starts just shy of 28k before options and discounts. That’s a big lift from the 22k for the Duster mentioned.

At this price point for a new car that does make a significant difference albeit the Vitara is probably a nicer place to sit and maybe better screwed together.

I would say the nearest competitor would be the MG and I’d have a Duster over that any day.

I have to agree

I chose the Vitara over the Duster for a number of reasons, two years ago my last of the pre hybrid SZ5 was good value at 20.5k after discount but not now at close to 30k

next year I will have another look at Dacia and MG, I like the Suzuki dealer and they now sell MG too.

I like the Xceed but the missus requires all wheel drive which somewhat limits the budget end of the market and she doesn't like the look of the ugly duckling Ignis.

[HTP99]

Joey Deacon said:

nickfrog said:

True and that's where I see the value of a manual 1.5T Xceed in 3 trim at 20.5k after discount as it is a little longer and better equipped, not to mention the 7 year warranty. But then again perhaps there are discounts on the Duster?

In my experience of using Car Wow, the best you can hope for is a few hundred pounds off, a set of mats and a tank of fuel. I just ended up ordering my car from the nearest dealer and paying list as I didn't fancy travelling over 100 miles on public transport and a day out of my life to collect a car to save the equivalent of 250.

I suspect two train tickets and the fuel to get back would eat up most of that saving.

Edited by Joey Deacon on Tuesday 24th May 12:13

Dacia doesn't count or pay towards any targets, there is only a 5% margin, most dealers are stumped as to why anyone offers anything off them, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

[anonymous-user]

HTP99 said:

Dacia doesn't count or pay towards any targets, there is only a 5% margin, most dealers are stumped as to why anyone offers anything off them, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

I think there are only two dealers on Car Wow who quote for Dacia. On a Stepway I was offered the following discounts

Sutton Park Dacia = £255 + Free Mats plus a tank of fuel if you collect from them.
Fish Brothers Swindon = £127

As you say, I don't really understand why they offer a discount at all, especially as it is not worth the effort of travelling hundreds of miles to get it. Plus if you have an issue it is so much easier to take the car five miles up the road to the dealer you bought it from, same goes for the free servicing.

I can only assume that Sutton Park are absolutely desperate for the business?

[MustangGT]

Absolutely love it. I have an order in for a Tango Metallic Prestige 4x4, went in January. I called the dealer to see if I could change to this. Unfortunately my order went into the factory process a couple of weeks ago so I cannot change it. Lots of Dusters here in Cumbria, this would have stood out a bit more.

[HTP99]

Joey Deacon said:

HTP99 said:

Dacia doesn't count or pay towards any targets, there is only a 5% margin, most dealers are stumped as to why anyone offers anything off them, it just doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

I think there are only two dealers on Car Wow who quote for Dacia. On a Stepway I was offered the following discounts

Sutton Park Dacia = £255 + Free Mats plus a tank of fuel if you collect from them.
Fish Brothers Swindon = £127

As you say, I don't really understand why they offer a discount at all, especially as it is not worth the effort of travelling hundreds of miles to get it. Plus if you have an issue it is so much easier to take the car five miles up the road to the dealer you bought it from, same goes for the free servicing.

I can only assume that Sutton Park are absolutely desperate for the business?

It is odd, so Sutton Park, £255 off, mats are about £40 and a tank of fuel is circa £80 plus they would have had to pay CarWow £30 (I think it is) for the enquiry, a dealer used to pay around £300 to CarWow for a sale, it's now a flat rate per enquiry regardless of a sale or not, so that is a total of £405 Inc VAT, 5% margin on a Prestige manual is £627 plus vat so £752, less £405, less the number plates, less a clean, less the pdi cost, less paying the salesman and you are left with about £50/£70 (before factoring in dealership overheads), for a car that they'll likely never see for ongoing servicing and other work, utterly bonkers.

And you can guarantee if you'd bought from them as opposed to your local dealer, if you had an issue and took it to your local dealer, you'd be at the back of the queue.