I've become bored of cars.
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The industry got carried away and it doesn't make sense to try and keep track of it all at this point. Porsche, Ferrari, Lamborghini are destroying their own brands with garbage watches at mall kiosks. I am betting on others like Polaris to do well with things like the Slingshot. I like the Ariel Atom concept of all performance and low cost and if you need something to care about I would suggest than an open-wheeled car should do the trick and tickle your fancy.
Skeptisk said:
As Syndrome says in the Incredibles, “when everyone is special…no-one will be”. I think that now applies to cars.
Hot hatches, saloons, EVs and even SUVs can and do offer performance well beyond what supercars offered just a few years ago. The ability to exploit such power has dropped sharply in many places yet the likelihood and consequences for doing so have increased. So I agree that performance cars have become fairly pointless and as any gains in performance are really only noticeable north of 100 mph then I can’t get very excited about them.
As others have said, buy something that is older and far less capable, which demands more of the driver. An early 911 weighing around a tonne with 180-200 bhp is about perfect.
I like that. I had a E90 330i and it was a really nice car. Despite some maintenance costs. The steering was weighted etc.Hot hatches, saloons, EVs and even SUVs can and do offer performance well beyond what supercars offered just a few years ago. The ability to exploit such power has dropped sharply in many places yet the likelihood and consequences for doing so have increased. So I agree that performance cars have become fairly pointless and as any gains in performance are really only noticeable north of 100 mph then I can’t get very excited about them.
As others have said, buy something that is older and far less capable, which demands more of the driver. An early 911 weighing around a tonne with 180-200 bhp is about perfect.
SuffolkDefender said:
I think part of my problem is that these days supercars and sports cars are everywhere. When I was a kid, it was Athena posters on your bedroom wall and that was the only time you got to see a Lamborghini. This week, I've seen two and I don't exactly live in ametropolis. If I was so inclined to open up Instagram (and I'm not) I'm sure I'd see millions of them there, or YouTube, or Facebook, or whatever. It's like they're not special anymore. Every week there's a new model, more horsepower, more whatever.... I just think it's pointless. If we're all driving at 75-80mph on the motorways (even if you're not trying to save fuel), then what's the point in having a car that does 150mph+?
Or am i just becoming a grumpy old b
d?
Or am i just becoming a grumpy old b
d? I think times have changed. I guess cars have always been status symbols. I think more wealthier people and access to credit and payment plans means more supercars on the road.
A black Lamborghini Hurracan passed my abode last week. I think it was a Hurracan rather than an Aventador.
I think times have also changed with regard to road usage. I phoned a motorcycle dealer today to get some idea of pricing and extended warranties, but unless I do a track day when I am going to use a motorcycle than can double the speed limit rather than the speed limit plus fifty percent. Additional performance may lead to more enjoyment and more and safer overtakes but how long before someone with a Dashcam informs on me exceeding a limit on a not quite completely empty main road?
Times have changed. A Labour MP who has relatives that farm and was Shadow Agriculture Minister moaning about someone owning a Lamborghini. I wonder if that MP has seen Harry Metcalfe's video about a field turned over to become a wild flower meadow because the Govt. paid someone not to grow crops and how such incentives mean the UK production of grain will be down 1 Million tonnes this year? How is growing less cereal crops going to bring down the price of food?
https://twitter.com/LukePollard/status/15266392819...
cerb4.5lee said:
Skeptisk said:
As others have said, buy something that is older and far less capable, which demands more of the driver. An early 911 weighing around a tonne with 180-200 bhp is about perfect.
Similar. Wanted an M2 for 5 years. Got one last year. Loved it, but something missing. It was good at most things, but not GREAT at a few things that are important to me.
It's gone. In its place is a Yeti TDI 4x4 for family, bikes, tip, commuting, etc, and a bike engined kit car for track/sprints.
As others have said, a motorbike is another good answer. A whole other level of involvement, performance and geekery.
It's gone. In its place is a Yeti TDI 4x4 for family, bikes, tip, commuting, etc, and a bike engined kit car for track/sprints.
As others have said, a motorbike is another good answer. A whole other level of involvement, performance and geekery.
C70R said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Skeptisk said:
As others have said, buy something that is older and far less capable, which demands more of the driver. An early 911 weighing around a tonne with 180-200 bhp is about perfect.
cerb4.5lee said:
C70R said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Skeptisk said:
As others have said, buy something that is older and far less capable, which demands more of the driver. An early 911 weighing around a tonne with 180-200 bhp is about perfect.
OP was complaining that his car was hitting licence-shedding speeds with little effort, and I was just pointing out that a mildly-tuned 200sx can do exactly the same. So it's hardly a great substitute.
Me, personally? I love driving fast in straight lines. I was a stupid youth when I owned the S14a, and I managed a GPS'd 151mph on a UK motorway, at 7pm on a Friday evening.
SuffolkDefender said:
Tell me again in December how wonderful motorcycles are, or when you want to go pick something up that’s larger than a laptop.
I’d just always rather be on a bike now.
C70R said:
cerb4.5lee said:
C70R said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Skeptisk said:
As others have said, buy something that is older and far less capable, which demands more of the driver. An early 911 weighing around a tonne with 180-200 bhp is about perfect.
OP was complaining that his car was hitting licence-shedding speeds with little effort, and I was just pointing out that a mildly-tuned 200sx can do exactly the same. So it's hardly a great substitute.
Me, personally? I love driving fast in straight lines. I was a stupid youth when I owned the S14a, and I managed a GPS'd 151mph on a UK motorway, at 7pm on a Friday evening.
I think that is where I go wrong to be honest, I'm nearly 50...and I still occasionally drive like I am still only 19 though!
V1nce Fox said:
SuffolkDefender said:
Tell me again in December how wonderful motorcycles are, or when you want to go pick something up that’s larger than a laptop.
Weirdly i’ve now got to the point where even in winter i’d rather ride. Only drive in extreme weather or when i absolutely have to carry big stuff now.
I’d just always rather be on a bike now.
marksx said:
V1nce Fox said:
SuffolkDefender said:
Tell me again in December how wonderful motorcycles are, or when you want to go pick something up that’s larger than a laptop.
Weirdly i’ve now got to the point where even in winter i’d rather ride. Only drive in extreme weather or when i absolutely have to carry big stuff now.
I’d just always rather be on a bike now.
For me I don't want the bike to be practical. It's sole purpose is for fun. Leave the car to do the work.
When a blonde woman on a F800 parks a few yards away and you're both grinning like Cheshire Cats or escaped lunatics, it's not lust at first sight or spring is sprung it's just riding a motorcycle into the town centre on a bright, sunny warm day in February.
Getting out into the sticks on a motorcycle even if it's just for an hour or so is good for my mood. I need to focus more when on the motorcycle and not think of other things and remember that nasty concave dimple in the road that can launch me out of my seat and that wooden fence that ends on the apex of that dogleg bend.
I've had motorcycles and yes, they're exciting - when every other driver isn't trying to kill you with their lack of attention, or the roads aren't trying to derail you with potholes, poor surfacing, loose gravel and wet leaves; I've crashed and been knocked off, broken bones and opened skin thanks to bikes. I've been a motorcyclist since I was 16 and I'm bordering on 50, riding for a large part of those years everything from TS50X to CBR600, GSXR1100K, Multistrada, R1, R6, ZX6, Hayabusa and two BMWs including an R1200RT. I like bikes. But practical they are not, especially in the winter, the rain, or when you want to go out with friends or family without getting dressed up as if you're going to fight the Power Rangers.
I have a 4-door 'family' sports car because I need four doors and a boot, not two seats that you have to get off after, at best, 100 miles and with a carrying capacity of less than a Peugeot 106.
So yes, probably sell the M3 and keep the Pulsar whilst I debate my next move.
I have a 4-door 'family' sports car because I need four doors and a boot, not two seats that you have to get off after, at best, 100 miles and with a carrying capacity of less than a Peugeot 106.
So yes, probably sell the M3 and keep the Pulsar whilst I debate my next move.
SuffolkDefender said:
I've had motorcycles and yes, they're exciting - when every other driver isn't trying to kill you with their lack of attention, or the roads aren't trying to derail you with potholes, poor surfacing, loose gravel and wet leaves; I've crashed and been knocked off, broken bones and opened skin thanks to bikes. I've been a motorcyclist since I was 16 and I'm bordering on 50, riding for a large part of those years everything from TS50X to CBR600, GSXR1100K, Multistrada, R1, R6, ZX6, Hayabusa and two BMWs including an R1200RT. I like bikes. But practical they are not, especially in the winter, the rain, or when you want to go out with friends or family without getting dressed up as if you're going to fight the Power Rangers.
I have a 4-door 'family' sports car because I need four doors and a boot, not two seats that you have to get off after, at best, 100 miles and with a carrying capacity of less than a Peugeot 106.
So yes, probably sell the M3 and keep the Pulsar whilst I debate my next move.
The problem with the M3 is that you've basically bought a fairly dull car (a 3-series saloon) that BMW have tried to make interesting.I have a 4-door 'family' sports car because I need four doors and a boot, not two seats that you have to get off after, at best, 100 miles and with a carrying capacity of less than a Peugeot 106.
So yes, probably sell the M3 and keep the Pulsar whilst I debate my next move.
If you started with an interesting car, you'd probably get more pleasure out of it.
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