RE: Last-ever registered Peugeot 306 Rallye for sale

RE: Last-ever registered Peugeot 306 Rallye for sale

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Gad-Westy

14,578 posts

214 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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rotaryjam said:
Let's face it the weight difference is like most of these types of lightweight editions is almost entirely marketing and imperceptible differences. Can a human being really tell the difference in a few bhp per tonnes? I very much doubt it, but after being told about it I'm sure they can feel every single one and reviews will enthuse about how 'pure' it feels
306 rallye seemed a bit half hearted in that respect. 106 and euro 205 rallyes were very different to the GTi versions.

demic

375 posts

162 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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s m said:
EVO timings

I’ve owned three (a GTi-6 and two Rallyes) in total, including the car used to set those figures, a black Rallye S727 OAC, if I remember correctly. It did feel noticeably quicker than the other two.

Still miss them, my current Megane 300 Trophy is my latest failed attempt to get something even remotely close to the way they would unwind a twisty b-road

s m

23,245 posts

204 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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demic said:
s m said:
EVO timings

I’ve owned three (a GTi-6 and two Rallyes) in total, including the car used to set those figures, a black Rallye S727 OAC, if I remember correctly. It did feel noticeably quicker than the other two.

Still miss them, my current Megane 300 Trophy is my latest failed attempt to get something even remotely close to the way they would unwind a twisty b-road
They recorded 7.2 for the standard GTI-6 so could well have been a very healthy Rallye. 60kg is here nor there with a 1200kg car . Having said that, if you’ve tried to record a set of figures for a reasonably quick car without traction control etc you’ll know that runs can vary by several tenths of a second - many owners who have gone to Santa Pod and figured their own car will know that. Sometimes journos will even say they think there were better times left in the car but they ran out of time to have more go’s!
Factor in the amount of lack of mechanical sympathy, track conditions/temp, individual tester etc and you can see how different mags get different times

Nice to have owned the actual test car though thumbup


Edited by s m on Tuesday 31st May 09:38

J4CKO

41,640 posts

201 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Weird thing is, someone will pay 40 odd for it and fair play to them, never drove a GTI/Rallye but the standard ones drove really nicely and were one of the best looking hatches ever, as mentioned the convertible was a stunner as well.

However, its mainly because they were once familiar and now they arent, same thing will happen with stuff from today, 25 years on and people will be paying lots of money for all sorts of stuff you regard as pretty average or mundane now, especially after the ICE ban, so now is the time to put some cars away if you have the funds and space.

Its just human nature really, like starting a big bag of Fruit Pastilles and you plough through like you will never run out of Fruit Pastilles, got them coming out of your ears, your mouth feels all weird and you feel a bit queasy. You wrap the remaining three up in the packet and stick it away thinking you will never want Fruit Pastilles ever again and feel rather disgusted with yourself leaving that token three, still didnt eat all of them, that would be greedy.... This feeling is how we are about modern/current/numerous cars, and we dont want any more, they will always be around, cheap, in huge numbers....


Fast Forward to a week next Tuesday and you are craving something sweet after dinner, you remember the few Fruit Pastilles left and your heart jumps, you go to the cupboard and there they are, two yellow ones and a red one, you then eat the two yellow ones and then savour the red one appreciating it, left wanting more. Scale the thought process out 20/30 years and apply it to cars and this is that solitary red sweet left, the scruffy leggy examples the yellow ones, still tasty and appreciated but not quite the same. And you will pay more money if you want something, 46k for this, or 9 quid for another bag of fruity sweets delivered by a bloke on a bicycle.


Does make me wonder how a brand new, fairly expensive car gets bought and sits unused for all those years though ?




blue_haddock

3,224 posts

68 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Gad-Westy said:
Terminator X said:
Had one in yellow early Noughties. Fond memories, fastest car I'd ever owned at that time.

TX.
Had it had a colour change or did they do them in yellow from factory? I think I’ve only ever seen white/red/black
Red white and black were the only colours available for sale, although there was a single dark blue rallye which was a pre-production vehicle and never officially available.

Koolkat969

988 posts

100 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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J4CKO said:
Does make me wonder how a brand new, fairly expensive car gets bought and sits unused for all those years though ?
Here's one person's story of her car with only 34 original miles from new.......

https://youtu.be/9yMyZzDf3Ik

Wish we knew the story about the rallye also!

re33

269 posts

165 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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New car for £46k, what's all the fuss about? I would never buy a new car ever but this makes more sense to me than buying the latest a4/3 series / x3 / q5 / model 3 blando mobile. Driving it for 3 years and 15k miles depreciation is going to be less too.

Legatron

10 posts

124 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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This will be Carl Chambers' old car W487 PWK. Well published car often used in magazine shoots as recently as 2021

Knowing Carl a little bit like I used to from 15+ years ago, this was an investment, he would have got a decent price for this i'm sure.

Gad-Westy

14,578 posts

214 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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re33 said:
New car for £46k, what's all the fuss about? I would never buy a new car ever but this makes more sense to me than buying the latest a4/3 series / x3 / q5 / model 3 blando mobile. Driving it for 3 years and 15k miles depreciation is going to be less too.
But is it new? 25 year old rubber components throughout. Not just tyres and bushes but every seal on electrical connectors etc. Presumably some corrosion showing too on anything not protected from new. Probably not important given this is unlikely to ever now be used though.

Koolkat969

988 posts

100 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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I remember the rallye from Evo magazine 095, 2006, best front drivers car of all time. it was up there but didn't make the top 6 which was dominated in finishing order by the Golf Gti, Mini GP, 205 Gti, Williams Clio and Trophy in second place. First place went to the Integra so i womder what a similarly low mileage of those would fetch today.



The 306 GTI-6 however did take first place when put up in the 50 greatest hot hatches from the 80's to the early 2000's in this copy of Modern Classics Magazine July 2020.

The first criteria in quote being a usable car that can deal out enjoyment on the long way back from work, yet be equally good when you just want to get home.

The second being the handling- that the finest hot hatches have to be engaging machines that can mix it on a B-road as well as the daily schlep.

And the final criteria that the engine needs to make your soul tingle as you wring it in pursuit of your next shot of adrenaline.

Never driven one but will definitely be very desirable to someone at that money and also being the last ever registered 306 rallye!

Koolkat969

988 posts

100 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Legatron said:
This will be Carl Chambers' old car W487 PWK. Well published car often used in magazine shoots as recently as 2021

Knowing Carl a little bit like I used to from 15+ years ago, this was an investment, he would have got a decent price for this i'm sure.
Ah......interesting!

Craig W

423 posts

160 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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I used to love these, but that is a pretty dull looking car. It has not aged well at all.

Koolkat969

988 posts

100 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Craig W said:
I used to love these, but that is a pretty dull looking car. It has not aged well at all.
Wasn't part of the judging criteria by Modern Classics, I'm afraid! biglaugh

s m

23,245 posts

204 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Koolkat969 said:
Craig W said:
I used to love these, but that is a pretty dull looking car. It has not aged well at all.
Wasn't part of the judging criteria by Modern Classics, I'm afraid! biglaugh
The guy from Modern Classics was a big 306 fan


blade7

11,311 posts

217 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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People can pay what they like for an old Peugeot, just like other people are entitled to think £46k is a ridiculous price for it. I'd be willing to bet that the former are in a very tiny minority. I also reckon that most that are posting that's is worth it, wouldn't put their money where their mouths are either. If I was seriously loaded, I'd buy some of my old Ford RS favourites, I'd still think the prices are stupid, and the cars weren't worth it. But the money wouldn't matter to me in that situation.

dhutch

14,391 posts

198 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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s m said:
dhutch said:
s m said:
EVO timings

0-60 in 6.9sec is actually really fairly quick all told. About a second faster than the GTI-6?
You have to bear in mind the EVO tests of the Rallye and GTI-6 ( they managed 7.2 for the 60 sprint ) were done in dry conditions and the other proper tests with times I’ve seen all just happened to be in the wet/damp. They were about a second down so I imagine in dry conditions there would have been little in real time between a GTI-6 and a Rallye…… probably more discrepancy down to individual car, tester and track surface
Fair. Can't fault that, and would be supprised if there was a second between them, on what are broadly the same cars. Never had a Gtiy but a housemate did. I had a 1.6 8v petrol, then a 1.8 16v petrol, which was a lovely car and noticeably more poke and follow through into the higher revs. A lovely car I would likely still have to this day was it not for a misplaced right footz standing water, and a teligraph pole which conspired against that!

ChocolateFrog

25,505 posts

174 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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I'd love someone to buy that and then use it everyday for the next few years.

Would bring some to tears.

That won't happen, it'll do almost 50 miles a year from now on.

Koolkat969

988 posts

100 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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s m said:
Koolkat969 said:
Craig W said:
I used to love these, but that is a pretty dull looking car. It has not aged well at all.
Wasn't part of the judging criteria by Modern Classics, I'm afraid! biglaugh
The guy from Modern Classics was a big 306 fan

Hmm.....biased judging you reckon? biglaugh

s m

23,245 posts

204 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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dhutch said:
Fair. Can't fault that, and would be supprised if there was a second between them, on what are broadly the same cars. Never had a Gtiy but a housemate did. I had a 1.6 8v petrol, then a 1.8 16v petrol, which was a lovely car and noticeably more poke and follow through into the higher revs. A lovely car I would likely still have to this day was it not for a misplaced right footz standing water, and a teligraph pole which conspired against that!



Terminator X

15,108 posts

205 months

Tuesday 31st May 2022
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Gad-Westy said:
Terminator X said:
Had one in yellow early Noughties. Fond memories, fastest car I'd ever owned at that time.

TX.
Had it had a colour change or did they do them in yellow from factory? I think I’ve only ever seen white/red/black
Yes sorry my bad, was a GTi6.

TX.