RE: Last-ever registered Peugeot 306 Rallye for sale
Discussion
rotaryjam said:
Let's face it the weight difference is like most of these types of lightweight editions is almost entirely marketing and imperceptible differences. Can a human being really tell the difference in a few bhp per tonnes? I very much doubt it, but after being told about it I'm sure they can feel every single one and reviews will enthuse about how 'pure' it feels
306 rallye seemed a bit half hearted in that respect. 106 and euro 205 rallyes were very different to the GTi versions. s m said:
I’ve owned three (a GTi-6 and two Rallyes) in total, including the car used to set those figures, a black Rallye S727 OAC, if I remember correctly. It did feel noticeably quicker than the other two.Still miss them, my current Megane 300 Trophy is my latest failed attempt to get something even remotely close to the way they would unwind a twisty b-road
demic said:
s m said:
I’ve owned three (a GTi-6 and two Rallyes) in total, including the car used to set those figures, a black Rallye S727 OAC, if I remember correctly. It did feel noticeably quicker than the other two.Still miss them, my current Megane 300 Trophy is my latest failed attempt to get something even remotely close to the way they would unwind a twisty b-road
Factor in the amount of lack of mechanical sympathy, track conditions/temp, individual tester etc and you can see how different mags get different times
Nice to have owned the actual test car though
Edited by s m on Tuesday 31st May 09:38
Weird thing is, someone will pay 40 odd for it and fair play to them, never drove a GTI/Rallye but the standard ones drove really nicely and were one of the best looking hatches ever, as mentioned the convertible was a stunner as well.
However, its mainly because they were once familiar and now they arent, same thing will happen with stuff from today, 25 years on and people will be paying lots of money for all sorts of stuff you regard as pretty average or mundane now, especially after the ICE ban, so now is the time to put some cars away if you have the funds and space.
Its just human nature really, like starting a big bag of Fruit Pastilles and you plough through like you will never run out of Fruit Pastilles, got them coming out of your ears, your mouth feels all weird and you feel a bit queasy. You wrap the remaining three up in the packet and stick it away thinking you will never want Fruit Pastilles ever again and feel rather disgusted with yourself leaving that token three, still didnt eat all of them, that would be greedy.... This feeling is how we are about modern/current/numerous cars, and we dont want any more, they will always be around, cheap, in huge numbers....
Fast Forward to a week next Tuesday and you are craving something sweet after dinner, you remember the few Fruit Pastilles left and your heart jumps, you go to the cupboard and there they are, two yellow ones and a red one, you then eat the two yellow ones and then savour the red one appreciating it, left wanting more. Scale the thought process out 20/30 years and apply it to cars and this is that solitary red sweet left, the scruffy leggy examples the yellow ones, still tasty and appreciated but not quite the same. And you will pay more money if you want something, 46k for this, or 9 quid for another bag of fruity sweets delivered by a bloke on a bicycle.
Does make me wonder how a brand new, fairly expensive car gets bought and sits unused for all those years though ?
However, its mainly because they were once familiar and now they arent, same thing will happen with stuff from today, 25 years on and people will be paying lots of money for all sorts of stuff you regard as pretty average or mundane now, especially after the ICE ban, so now is the time to put some cars away if you have the funds and space.
Its just human nature really, like starting a big bag of Fruit Pastilles and you plough through like you will never run out of Fruit Pastilles, got them coming out of your ears, your mouth feels all weird and you feel a bit queasy. You wrap the remaining three up in the packet and stick it away thinking you will never want Fruit Pastilles ever again and feel rather disgusted with yourself leaving that token three, still didnt eat all of them, that would be greedy.... This feeling is how we are about modern/current/numerous cars, and we dont want any more, they will always be around, cheap, in huge numbers....
Fast Forward to a week next Tuesday and you are craving something sweet after dinner, you remember the few Fruit Pastilles left and your heart jumps, you go to the cupboard and there they are, two yellow ones and a red one, you then eat the two yellow ones and then savour the red one appreciating it, left wanting more. Scale the thought process out 20/30 years and apply it to cars and this is that solitary red sweet left, the scruffy leggy examples the yellow ones, still tasty and appreciated but not quite the same. And you will pay more money if you want something, 46k for this, or 9 quid for another bag of fruity sweets delivered by a bloke on a bicycle.
Does make me wonder how a brand new, fairly expensive car gets bought and sits unused for all those years though ?
Gad-Westy said:
Terminator X said:
Had one in yellow early Noughties. Fond memories, fastest car I'd ever owned at that time.
TX.
Had it had a colour change or did they do them in yellow from factory? I think I’ve only ever seen white/red/blackTX.
J4CKO said:
Does make me wonder how a brand new, fairly expensive car gets bought and sits unused for all those years though ?
Here's one person's story of her car with only 34 original miles from new.......https://youtu.be/9yMyZzDf3Ik
Wish we knew the story about the rallye also!
re33 said:
New car for £46k, what's all the fuss about? I would never buy a new car ever but this makes more sense to me than buying the latest a4/3 series / x3 / q5 / model 3 blando mobile. Driving it for 3 years and 15k miles depreciation is going to be less too.
But is it new? 25 year old rubber components throughout. Not just tyres and bushes but every seal on electrical connectors etc. Presumably some corrosion showing too on anything not protected from new. Probably not important given this is unlikely to ever now be used though. I remember the rallye from Evo magazine 095, 2006, best front drivers car of all time. it was up there but didn't make the top 6 which was dominated in finishing order by the Golf Gti, Mini GP, 205 Gti, Williams Clio and Trophy in second place. First place went to the Integra so i womder what a similarly low mileage of those would fetch today.
The 306 GTI-6 however did take first place when put up in the 50 greatest hot hatches from the 80's to the early 2000's in this copy of Modern Classics Magazine July 2020.
The first criteria in quote being a usable car that can deal out enjoyment on the long way back from work, yet be equally good when you just want to get home.
The second being the handling- that the finest hot hatches have to be engaging machines that can mix it on a B-road as well as the daily schlep.
And the final criteria that the engine needs to make your soul tingle as you wring it in pursuit of your next shot of adrenaline.
Never driven one but will definitely be very desirable to someone at that money and also being the last ever registered 306 rallye!
Legatron said:
This will be Carl Chambers' old car W487 PWK. Well published car often used in magazine shoots as recently as 2021
Knowing Carl a little bit like I used to from 15+ years ago, this was an investment, he would have got a decent price for this i'm sure.
Ah......interesting! Knowing Carl a little bit like I used to from 15+ years ago, this was an investment, he would have got a decent price for this i'm sure.
People can pay what they like for an old Peugeot, just like other people are entitled to think £46k is a ridiculous price for it. I'd be willing to bet that the former are in a very tiny minority. I also reckon that most that are posting that's is worth it, wouldn't put their money where their mouths are either. If I was seriously loaded, I'd buy some of my old Ford RS favourites, I'd still think the prices are stupid, and the cars weren't worth it. But the money wouldn't matter to me in that situation.
s m said:
dhutch said:
You have to bear in mind the EVO tests of the Rallye and GTI-6 ( they managed 7.2 for the 60 sprint ) were done in dry conditions and the other proper tests with times I’ve seen all just happened to be in the wet/damp. They were about a second down so I imagine in dry conditions there would have been little in real time between a GTI-6 and a Rallye…… probably more discrepancy down to individual car, tester and track surface dhutch said:
Fair. Can't fault that, and would be supprised if there was a second between them, on what are broadly the same cars. Never had a Gtiy but a housemate did. I had a 1.6 8v petrol, then a 1.8 16v petrol, which was a lovely car and noticeably more poke and follow through into the higher revs. A lovely car I would likely still have to this day was it not for a misplaced right footz standing water, and a teligraph pole which conspired against that!
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