RE: Last-ever registered Peugeot 306 Rallye for sale
Discussion
lb3nson said:
Just because someone wants to pay money for it doesn’t make it any less pointless. There are plenty of people out there with more money than sense.
I mean if we’re talking about definitions about what a car should be used for, then driving has to be the primary use!
If someone doesn’t see this, then (in my opinion) they are not a car enthusiast.
You don't get to decide what defines a car enthusiast any more than I do. They're not any less of an enthusiast than you are, they're just a different kind of enthusiast.I mean if we’re talking about definitions about what a car should be used for, then driving has to be the primary use!
If someone doesn’t see this, then (in my opinion) they are not a car enthusiast.
There are loads of people out there that collect things - stamps, watches, books. They don't all get used for their "primary" function, but are still enjoyed by their owners. The world is a varied place and people enjoy different things in different ways. It's got nothing to do with "more money than sense", and is simply a case of people having different preferences (not to mention different amounts of money to spend on their hobby).
Like I said, the "I don't like it, so it's rubbish/wrong/stupid" attitude is so dull and narrow-minded. I thought the whole idea of car enthusiasm was to bring people together under a shared interest, but PH is increasingly becoming a place for grumpy sods to criticise the choices of others.
dpop said:
Ah yes, the UK's obsession with low mileage cars and old over-used houses will never make sense to us on the Continent 
Just buy a new house and drive your cars guys, like everyone else!!
It's definitely not just the UK. That Chasing Classic Cars show that Wayne Carini does proves that. There are a lot of people that covet extremely low-mileage cars.Just buy a new house and drive your cars guys, like everyone else!!
DKS said:
How much damage has been done to an engine that's probably had no more than shunts around various dealer's show rooms and in and out of trailers its whole life? Has it ever got up to temperature?
I try to avoid starting engines unless I really have to for this reason. I guess it's probably ok as it's a 'modern' engine but equally it might let go big time the firs time it's thrashed.
Did '90s/ '00s cars need running in? I think I'd run this in a bit with fresh oil before exploring the upper rev ranges...
It's probably irrelevant, as this will never be thrashed. It will be part of a collection.I try to avoid starting engines unless I really have to for this reason. I guess it's probably ok as it's a 'modern' engine but equally it might let go big time the firs time it's thrashed.
Did '90s/ '00s cars need running in? I think I'd run this in a bit with fresh oil before exploring the upper rev ranges...
Edited by Jon_S_Rally on Thursday 26th May 11:42
Going back to one of the questions posed by the author, I personally wouldn’t buy the Peugeot for £46k and nor would I buy a new Focus ST for c.£40k. If I wanted a hot hatch now, I would probably look at a new Yaris. But I appreciate that there probably is a very small market for a £46k Peugeot.
On the other hand, if someone had a delivery miles perfect condition Megane R26.R for sale at £46k…
On the other hand, if someone had a delivery miles perfect condition Megane R26.R for sale at £46k…
If you buy this car and actually use it as intended, it will lose all its value. If you aren't going to use it, whats the point! I wouldn't have the Focus at the price mentioned either, mental money for a fast white goods car. I know some agree and some don't but new cars are ridiculous money, all because they are full of crap and gadgets that aren't needed, passive this, active that, touch screen with a million options. Which is why people hark back to cars like the 306
thelostboy said:
You say that, a Clio Trophy sold for 45k on Collecting Cars with higher mileage. Think there is a picture of it next to the new owner's Chiron doing the rounds.
This is a delivery mileage car, some of you don't seem to understand that it's a unicorn. Values go up exponentially on older cars for condition and mileage.
Take the blinkers off. It may be hard to accept, but there are people with the same enthusiasm as you with more to spend. The eventual buyer of this 306 is not comparing it to what else they can get for the money, because they already own them too.
does anyone have a link to the trophy with the chiron?This is a delivery mileage car, some of you don't seem to understand that it's a unicorn. Values go up exponentially on older cars for condition and mileage.
Take the blinkers off. It may be hard to accept, but there are people with the same enthusiasm as you with more to spend. The eventual buyer of this 306 is not comparing it to what else they can get for the money, because they already own them too.
someone will buy this 306 at £40k imo, it's a 1 of 1
I must be the one of a few people that would pay that if I had the pennies… then drive it regularly and not worry about it’s depreciation. If someone can afford £46k then they won’t worry about depreciation. Crack on and use your money for what you enjoy doing. Driving 🤣👍
Jam_s160 said:
I must be the one of a few people that would pay that if I had the pennies… then drive it regularly and not worry about it’s depreciation. If someone can afford 46k then they won’t worry about depreciation. Crack on and use your money for what you enjoy doing. Driving ????
If you actually want to use it, there’s probably several grand more that needs spending on it, including considerable numbers of parts made of unobtanium. According to the ad, it ‘has had’ a cam belt change, and ‘oil changes’, but still has the original oil filter in place, wrapped in its factory plastic bag.
"...is there anything much more interesting than a Peugeot 306 Rallye with 309 miles on the clock?..." 
OK, OK, one man's wine, another...etc. Would be interested to know what the handshake price is typically on a car like this? KGF seem to have a fair turnover of stock, which is relatively unusual for a 'white background' dealer - are they open to fairly hard negotiation, or just very good at finding the miracle buyer willing to pay all the money?
Anyway, if the 306 is not exciting enough, KGF are selling Madonna's old Audi A8 - 17 years old, 81K miles and offered for a mere £25K - form an orderly queue chaps...
https://www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk/vehicles/26171/
OK, OK, one man's wine, another...etc. Would be interested to know what the handshake price is typically on a car like this? KGF seem to have a fair turnover of stock, which is relatively unusual for a 'white background' dealer - are they open to fairly hard negotiation, or just very good at finding the miracle buyer willing to pay all the money?Anyway, if the 306 is not exciting enough, KGF are selling Madonna's old Audi A8 - 17 years old, 81K miles and offered for a mere £25K - form an orderly queue chaps...
https://www.kgfclassiccars.co.uk/vehicles/26171/
spikyone said:
46k for a piece of essentially static "art", or a nice one you could actually use as intended for 8k...
https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12887909
I know which I'd buy.
Now that's more like it! Not so much the price that puts me off, though at even £4.6k it's out of my usual car buying budget), but the mileage. I'd not feel like I could drive it.https://www.pistonheads.com/buy/listing/12887909
I know which I'd buy.
jjones said:
blue_haddock said:
I'm actually a good friend of the previous owner, he won't tell me what they paid him though.
Ask him if deliberately got it to 306 miles and left it there, and now the garage has screwed that up without realising?Jon_S_Rally said:
You don't get to decide what defines a car enthusiast any more than I do. They're not any less of an enthusiast than you are, they're just a different kind of enthusiast.
Which is why I noted it was an opinion, as is 99% of chat on any forum.Edited by Jon_S_Rally on Thursday 26th May 11:42
However, I strongly believe alot of these vehicles are bought by collectors and investors who aren’t true enthusiasts, and are only buying for perceived financial gain or ‘because they can’.
This seems to be causing a real problem with pricing out your average enthusiast as these halo sales ultimately increase the prices of similar models. I suppose it’s a car ‘gentrification’ of sorts.
Edited by lb3nson on Thursday 26th May 12:53
lb3nson said:
Which is why I noted it was an opinion, as is 99% of chat on any forum.
However, I strongly believe alot of these vehicles are bought by collectors and investors who aren’t true enthusiasts, and are only buying for perceived financial gain or ‘because they can’.
This seems to be causing a real problem with pricing out your average enthusiast as these halo sales ultimately increase the prices of similar models. I suppose it’s a car ‘gentrification’ of sorts.
I guess I can put it more simply - you might not like what other people do, but there's no need to be a dick about it.However, I strongly believe alot of these vehicles are bought by collectors and investors who aren’t true enthusiasts, and are only buying for perceived financial gain or ‘because they can’.
This seems to be causing a real problem with pricing out your average enthusiast as these halo sales ultimately increase the prices of similar models. I suppose it’s a car ‘gentrification’ of sorts.
Edited by lb3nson on Thursday 26th May 12:53
People can spend their money on whatever they want. If that's on cars, we can't stop them.
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