RE: Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio | Spotted
Discussion
macky17 said:
Whatever.
Don't get me wrong, it's a great drive. If I could afford one as a daily together with the Porsche then I would. Indeed, if I decided to sell the 911 and have just one car to do everything, the qv would be on the shortlist. I agree also that it is better than an F series M3 - the dampening and steering alone elevate it above that car imo. But the reviews which suggest "sports car" are mistaken and it certainly isn't a Ferrari saloon. I'm sorry but no car intended to be fun should be fitted with a zf box. My 335d has one and it's excellent for daily duties but fun? Involving? No. It's one reason I'd never consider an f type and it also leads me to wonder whether the recent reviews of the g series m3 are as much hype as the Alfa ones. Having not driven that car, I'll keep an open mind.
funny as the meshing of the zf is considered one of the triumphs of the car when it came out i thought. driving with the paddles is utmost fun. it is the closest thing that exist to a ferrari saloon. it has a ferrari engine, and do we really think alfa themselves came up with the gerogio platform on their own after years, nay decades, of turgid crap?Don't get me wrong, it's a great drive. If I could afford one as a daily together with the Porsche then I would. Indeed, if I decided to sell the 911 and have just one car to do everything, the qv would be on the shortlist. I agree also that it is better than an F series M3 - the dampening and steering alone elevate it above that car imo. But the reviews which suggest "sports car" are mistaken and it certainly isn't a Ferrari saloon. I'm sorry but no car intended to be fun should be fitted with a zf box. My 335d has one and it's excellent for daily duties but fun? Involving? No. It's one reason I'd never consider an f type and it also leads me to wonder whether the recent reviews of the g series m3 are as much hype as the Alfa ones. Having not driven that car, I'll keep an open mind.
my dilemma is do i keep it and get a taycan ct or somehitng like that for the inevitable, or replace my QV it with a new one and keep that inperputity and hold off on the taycan for a couple of years. either way im keeping one of these in my life post the end of ICE and i would wholeheartedly recommend others do. my concern of the new ones is the compromise coming from the untainted older and the price these days almost makes gta look value...
Triumph Man said:
Indeed I was 
For the picky, I wish that the RHD cars were available with a manual transmission. Unfortunately only the LHD cars were available with manual transmissions.
A shift action being a bit crap has never bothered me - I see it as characterful. Who cares if it doesn't change gear in 0.0003 seconds? Who cares if you have to be a little careful with your changes?
Same here - a manual one would interest me For the picky, I wish that the RHD cars were available with a manual transmission. Unfortunately only the LHD cars were available with manual transmissions.A shift action being a bit crap has never bothered me - I see it as characterful. Who cares if it doesn't change gear in 0.0003 seconds? Who cares if you have to be a little careful with your changes?
I just prefer doing the gears the old skool way rather than with a paddle or whatever
Not so bothered about dropping a tenth or 2 on a gear change
s m said:
Triumph Man said:
Indeed I was For the picky, I wish that the RHD cars were available with a manual transmission. Unfortunately only the LHD cars were available with manual transmissions.
A shift action being a bit crap has never bothered me - I see it as characterful. Who cares if it doesn't change gear in 0.0003 seconds? Who cares if you have to be a little careful with your changes?
Same here - a manual one would interest me For the picky, I wish that the RHD cars were available with a manual transmission. Unfortunately only the LHD cars were available with manual transmissions.A shift action being a bit crap has never bothered me - I see it as characterful. Who cares if it doesn't change gear in 0.0003 seconds? Who cares if you have to be a little careful with your changes?
I just prefer doing the gears the old skool way rather than with a paddle or whatever
Not so bothered about dropping a tenth or 2 on a gear change
So I can now understand why for many people the auto/DCT are the go to gearboxes, and I can't believe that I'm actually saying that for someone who has loved a 3 pedal manual for so long. Or maybe as I've got older my tastes have changed a little bit, or the DCT has just made me that bit more lazy perhaps.
cerb4.5lee said:
s m said:
Triumph Man said:
Indeed I was For the picky, I wish that the RHD cars were available with a manual transmission. Unfortunately only the LHD cars were available with manual transmissions.
A shift action being a bit crap has never bothered me - I see it as characterful. Who cares if it doesn't change gear in 0.0003 seconds? Who cares if you have to be a little careful with your changes?
Same here - a manual one would interest me For the picky, I wish that the RHD cars were available with a manual transmission. Unfortunately only the LHD cars were available with manual transmissions.A shift action being a bit crap has never bothered me - I see it as characterful. Who cares if it doesn't change gear in 0.0003 seconds? Who cares if you have to be a little careful with your changes?
I just prefer doing the gears the old skool way rather than with a paddle or whatever
Not so bothered about dropping a tenth or 2 on a gear change
So I can now understand why for many people the auto/DCT are the go to gearboxes, and I can't believe that I'm actually saying that for someone who has loved a 3 pedal manual for so long. Or maybe as I've got older my tastes have changed a little bit, or the DCT has just made me that bit more lazy perhaps.
I think it might be down to how powerful and heavy cars have got. Auto seem to suit those better.
I had a VW Up courtesy car not very long ago. Not much power, manual gearbox and I absolutely loved it. Forgot how much fun small light cars could be. An auto would have spoiled it.
macky17 said:
Finally got an extended test drive in one of these last weekend. It's true, they are very impressive cars and if I could afford to run one as a daily driver then I wouldn't hesitate. However, I was looking to replace my 997 C2S as a weekend car. I'm sorry but at the weight they are (and occasionally feel), the slightly laggy power delivery and the generic zf box (no better in operation than the one in my 335d) they aren't THAT good. Much preferred driving the 911 to and from the Alfa dealer than the test drive itself. Short version: it's not a sports car and anyone who says otherwise needs to go out and drive a dedicated one (ideally manual or dct, normally aspirated) to remember the difference.
Well it is a sport sedan and has a front mounted engine and that totally makes sense. Yet the Alfa is considerably quicker around every track than the 997 C2S (over 20sec faster at the ring, also faster than a 458 and a Mclaren Mp4-12c) and comparing the trans functionality to the 335d is a little extreme in my view. I drive mine in race mode at all times except in rain or below 40° weather. When talking about the shifts I think what we "Percieve" vs what the actual numbers show on shift times is a topic worth talking through. Numbers dont lie and our senses can be questionable.Granted mine is tuned and so my current experience is different but it was stock for two years. Mine has a de-cat, BMC filter , upgraded waste gate system and a larger heat exchanger than stock(25° cooler and double the capacity), 5mm spacers all round(beyond that is stupid, 5mm is just enough). My Alfa is near 630hp. I also have a Aston Martin Vantage V12 S and of course they have a different feel, they are different cars both unique and wonderful. The Alfa is quicker and can out handle the Aston, the Aston feels more like a sports car ....because it is, the Alfa feels more like a sports sedan because it is.
There is no lag in shifting when you need quick shifts, did you push it enough because every negative with the car is at low speeds. This car is really at its best above 80mph and when you beat the snot out of it.
Its the best handling sports sedan our there in my opinion, but I do understand that isnt always enough when compared to a sports car. Though I would argue the electronic steering in the Alfa has a better feel than the 997, the alfa feels very connected to the road. But owning cars with a naturally aspirated V12 and a Twin Turbo V6 is really a wonderful experience and I really love both for their differences.
Really this comes down to personal preference and we all like different things! There is no right or wrong and we can all embrace each others individual preference.I could never fault a person for preferring a 911 to a sport sedan. Porsche (A company I worked for) is hands down the most consistent at making great sports cars and aesthetically the 911 is always on point.
RichieRhubarb said:
originals said:
trevalvole said:
"tails of wow" (last paragraph)
Weary/Wary.
Robertb said:
Out of interest, in relation to the article's earlier paras, if you had a 'self-inflicted' crash and the insurance co discovered you had turned off the stability control, could they refuse to pay out?
Mine didn't. I was in Race and even admitted that it disabled the auto braking and they still fixed my Quadrifoglio. But that was a minor front end collision. The staggering part was that it cost $39,700 to fix it because of all the carbon fiber in the nose. 2cvdolly said:
Alfa romeo giulia quadrifoglio great CAR A MUST IN YELLOW. Yes not for the standard car come on guys a car like this must be seen it drives the way it says on the tin my order will be in off course yellow. Well done alfa
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A must in yellow for the calipers, definitely but they have plenty of great colors from the factory. Mine was Montecarlo Blue with Bright 5 hole wheels and yellow calipers. Drove the snot out of it for 3 years and not a single mechanical issue. Had to sell it after some medical issues, but it was by far the single best car I've owned. Sent
Bought one of these a month ago to replace my C43 AMG as daily driver. Really loving it. Some items are a step down in quality compared to the Mercedes’ but nothing that I personally care about. I’ve seen people talk about how bad the sat nav system is but I just use apple car play the same way I did in the Mercedes.
I was undecided over an M4 CS and the QV but went with the QV for the added practicality of the 4 doors. I also like that the steering is very direct, supercar direct, and with the thin steering wheel reminds me of a McClaren or modern Ferrari.
As a Porsche owner, I’m also surprised to see some of the earlier comments. I love my Porsche track car, it’s a dedicated weapon, but the QV drives more akin to the Ferrari F12 and 812, especially in race mode. I drive it in race mode most of the time, so does my wife, and even with the traction control off it’s very docile when you want it to be, and when it does slide it’s very manageable to get it cleanly back in line. I understand 100% all the gushing praise this car has received and I would highly recommend one if you are considering it.
It also has something about it that makes it feel far more special than it’s price point. Difficult to pin point what it is, and clearly it’s subjective, but it’s not worn off yet. Plus I found the more you read into the history of the car, the design and engineering by predominantly the same team that built the Ferrari 458, you begin to understand how this car could be so good. It’s a special machine and a great one to tick off the list before they all get banned in 8 years time.
I was undecided over an M4 CS and the QV but went with the QV for the added practicality of the 4 doors. I also like that the steering is very direct, supercar direct, and with the thin steering wheel reminds me of a McClaren or modern Ferrari.
As a Porsche owner, I’m also surprised to see some of the earlier comments. I love my Porsche track car, it’s a dedicated weapon, but the QV drives more akin to the Ferrari F12 and 812, especially in race mode. I drive it in race mode most of the time, so does my wife, and even with the traction control off it’s very docile when you want it to be, and when it does slide it’s very manageable to get it cleanly back in line. I understand 100% all the gushing praise this car has received and I would highly recommend one if you are considering it.
It also has something about it that makes it feel far more special than it’s price point. Difficult to pin point what it is, and clearly it’s subjective, but it’s not worn off yet. Plus I found the more you read into the history of the car, the design and engineering by predominantly the same team that built the Ferrari 458, you begin to understand how this car could be so good. It’s a special machine and a great one to tick off the list before they all get banned in 8 years time.
cramorra said:
SteveR1979 said:
200Plus Club said:
And it was 68k as specced, not 60k. Basic was 63k or so, easy yo add a few options. Think the equivalent is 74k now new.
Still a bargain for someone now though at 38k albeit perhaps not this particular car in a wrap with spacers.
HPi comes back as yellow, so not convinced on the wrapStill a bargain for someone now though at 38k albeit perhaps not this particular car in a wrap with spacers.
For example, the current Alfa Italy configurator includes ocra yellow as an available colour. So could it have been a special order when this was built??
this has been answered a number of times already no. can people not read!!
edit. to make it any plainer for those ignoring the previous posts...
no special division
no bespoke colors offered y his fictional skunk works
i've already addressed the heritage gold/yellow color as well.
this is aftermarket.
edit. to make it any plainer for those ignoring the previous posts...
no special division
no bespoke colors offered y his fictional skunk works
i've already addressed the heritage gold/yellow color as well.
this is aftermarket.
Edited by theplayingmantis on Monday 30th May 12:32
humphra said:
cramorra said:
SteveR1979 said:
200Plus Club said:
And it was 68k as specced, not 60k. Basic was 63k or so, easy yo add a few options. Think the equivalent is 74k now new.
Still a bargain for someone now though at 38k albeit perhaps not this particular car in a wrap with spacers.
HPi comes back as yellow, so not convinced on the wrapStill a bargain for someone now though at 38k albeit perhaps not this particular car in a wrap with spacers.
For example, the current Alfa Italy configurator includes ocra yellow as an available colour. So could it have been a special order when this was built??
This fella recently had to trailer his QV to a dealer.
Thankfully it wasn’t too serous.
Who’d a thunk it – an Alfa with an electrical problem:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrkjVQLqpI
Thankfully it wasn’t too serous.
Who’d a thunk it – an Alfa with an electrical problem:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrkjVQLqpI
NGK210 said:
This fella recently had to trailer his QV to a dealer.
Thankfully it wasn’t too serous.
Who’d a thunk it – an Alfa with an electrical problem:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrkjVQLqpI
Wow one example playing up to an old trope!Thankfully it wasn’t too serous.
Who’d a thunk it – an Alfa with an electrical problem:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bnrkjVQLqpI
check out the jdpower surveys. All cars have these alfa no worse than others in all of the surveys. In fact better than a fair few I think.
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