Chopped Down Trees - Clean Air Zone

Chopped Down Trees - Clean Air Zone

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bad company

Original Poster:

18,582 posts

266 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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I nicked this from another site so assume it’s genuine.

Apparently they cut down the trees to erect a sign warning motorists about a clean air zone. Priceless.


Shappers24

816 posts

86 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Context is everything… those trees could have been suffering from disease which required their felling before they came down on the road… could be part of a larger highway improvement scheme which would seem compensatory planting elsewhere etc.

Pica-Pica

13,792 posts

84 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Woodland management, by cutting down old trees, and planting new ones is best. Younger trees take up CO2 faster.

Durzel

12,270 posts

168 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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Shappers24 said:
Context is everything… those trees could have been suffering from disease which required their felling before they came down on the road… could be part of a larger highway improvement scheme which would seem compensatory planting elsewhere etc.
Yeah but that's not emotive though is it. If it's not pushing buttons for those who are happy to read a headline and reinforce an opinion they already hold what's the point of reporting it?

MikeGTi

2,505 posts

201 months

Friday 27th May 2022
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That would appear to be here on the M58/M6 Orrell Interchange.



As you can see, there aren't any trees obscuring the sign to begin with. Also, you'd have to pile a lot of tree chippings to be able to get that original photo...

I call shenanigans.

Tommo87

4,220 posts

113 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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These sort of obvious fakes rely on a certain type of people (who exist only to be outraged), so that they can get promoted and shared around.




Tommo87

4,220 posts

113 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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bad company said:
I nicked this from another site so assume it’s genuine.

Apparently they cut down the trees to erect a sign warning motorists about a clean air zone. Priceless.

Zarco

17,848 posts

209 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Tommo87 said:
These sort of obvious fakes rely on a certain type of people (who exist only to be outraged), so that they can get promoted and shared around.
Doesn't even look real laugh

Mabbs9

1,082 posts

218 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
Woodland management, by cutting down old trees, and planting new ones is best. Younger trees take up CO2 faster.
Younger yes. But not if they're much smaller.

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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1) They don't look like mature trees. It looks like scrub, rather than significant woodland or any kind

2) i suspect the sign is to show motorists there is a roundabout ahead. The fact there is a clean air zone on the sign isn't really relevant

3) What matters in terms of tree's and clean air is the inclusion of LARGE areas of forestry, not a 100 yard square section of scrub by a road. Yes, all greenery is good, but far better is proper managed woodland.

4) Pushing private motor vehicles and eventually most of our road vehicles including busses and truck to BEV architecture is going to provide a enormous reduction in local pollution

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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bad company said:
I nicked this from another site so assume it’s genuine.

Apparently they cut down the trees to erect a sign warning motorists about a clean air zone. Priceless.

Because it aligns with your bias?

Being so easily led is indeed “priceless”.

Earthdweller

13,554 posts

126 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Max_Torque said:
2) i suspect the sign is to show motorists there is a roundabout ahead. The fact there is a clean air zone on the sign isn't really relevant
It’s the only reason for the post

The huge outcry and resistance to GMC’s proposed “clean air zone”

Perfectly good Signs right across Greater Manchester have been replaced at massive cost with ones bearing the CAZ logo

The outrage over the plans has led to the CAZ being shelved ( for now )

Dingu

3,782 posts

30 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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What a tragic thread. Fact is the OP would be first in the outrage line spitting his dentures out over his morning Daily Mail if any form of chargeable zone signage was obscured calling it a scam etc etc.

Pica-Pica

13,792 posts

84 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Mabbs9 said:
Pica-Pica said:
Woodland management, by cutting down old trees, and planting new ones is best. Younger trees take up CO2 faster.
Younger yes. But not if they're much smaller.
They do grow, you know. Older trees have to be cut down at some stage before they become a hazard

bad company

Original Poster:

18,582 posts

266 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Dingu said:
What a tragic thread. Fact is the OP would be first in the outrage line spitting his dentures out over his morning Daily Mail if any form of chargeable zone signage was obscured calling it a scam etc etc.
You’ve made several ridiculous assumptions there.

Sporky

6,249 posts

64 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Earthdweller said:
The outrage over the plans has led to the CAZ being shelved ( for now )
Brilliant! Now they can be all smug about winning. I wonder how long before they realise what the prize is.

Mabbs9

1,082 posts

218 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
They do grow, you know. Older trees have to be cut down at some stage before they become a hazard
Thanks. I know that though. What you say means it could be a net negative affect for maybe 2-3 decades. Seems worth hanging onto mature trees where possible. I also appreciate that sometimes it isn't possible.

GranpaB

6,288 posts

36 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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bad company said:
Dingu said:
What a tragic thread. Fact is the OP would be first in the outrage line spitting his dentures out over his morning Daily Mail if any form of chargeable zone signage was obscured calling it a scam etc etc.
You’ve made several ridiculous assumptions there.
Similar to yours with your OP?



V8covin

7,315 posts

193 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Mabbs9 said:
Thanks. I know that though. What you say means it could be a net negative affect for maybe 2-3 decades. Seems worth hanging onto mature trees where possible. I also appreciate that sometimes it isn't possible.
As I understand it new trees produce CO2 for their 1st 20 to 30 years whilst mature trees remove CO2.....as a generalisation

anonymous-user

54 months

Sunday 29th May 2022
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Pica-Pica said:
Woodland management, by cutting down old trees, and planting new ones is best. Younger trees take up CO2 faster.
Yes but it only works if the cut down trees do not return their carbon back to the atmosphere by burning them but instead left to rot down.

Wonder what happened to the cut down trees?