RE: McMurty Automotive targets Goodwood hill record

RE: McMurty Automotive targets Goodwood hill record

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swisstoni

17,027 posts

280 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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It blue-screened on the way up the hill today.
But a cntl/alt/del got it going again.

ch37

10,642 posts

222 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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samoht said:
+1 I think those are the absolute best pics I've seen anywhere of this thing, McMurtry's own included. Looks fab!
McMurtry contacted me today and asked me to go and see then, gutted as I'm not there, just the Friday for me!

Sq1rL

408 posts

102 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Big Nanas said:
Here's the video for everyone's enjoyment.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP6oJGiX-Ds
That's astonishing, thanks; it looks like it was challenge enough to keep the car straight, let alone manage to set a record that stood for so many years.

Baron Greenback

6,995 posts

151 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Saturday! 40.05, awesome time! Loves his concentration and eye wide open trying not to blink!

carl_w

9,190 posts

259 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Shame the second commentator doesn't understand the difference between "average speed" and "speed over the finishing line".

130R

6,810 posts

207 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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It's like watching a missile with wheels go up the hillclimb

Sway

26,283 posts

195 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I shouldn't like this.

I dislike EVs. I can't stand the shifting focus to aero lead down force, especially ground effect.

Yet. I adore this. I'd absolutely bloody love a completely 'chilled out' version for commuting in. Cut out the aero, drop the power by 75%, and give me a little bit of space for a bag and I'd be like a pig in st.

I can just imagine the dozens of different lines one could take going up Bury Hill on my way home from the office...

Rozzers

1,742 posts

76 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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samoht said:
1000hp (the power output) is ~750 kW.

750 kW for 40 seconds (if it was at full power all the way up) is just over 8 kW hrs, out of the 60 kWh battery.

Assuming average power up the driveway is half of peak, that would be around 4 kWh used per run, so could easily do a dozen runs between charges. I think the intensity and forces involved would probably warrant a tea break after twelve runs for the driver too!
Thanks, no Le Mans, but still has its uses.

carl_w

9,190 posts

259 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Rozzers said:
Thanks, no Le Mans, but still has its uses.
I think electric power is ideal for sprints and hillclimbs.

If you look at the recent results from the Abingdon CARnival sprint, 3rd, 6th and 7th overall went to standard Tesla Model 3s. 1st was an R5 rally car, 2nd was a silhouette Esprit.

Edit to add link: https://abingdoncarnival.com/wp-content/uploads/20...

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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I have to say i'm slightly dissapointed by the performance up the hill. It's quick, obvs, but it's also clear the fan is not doing a lot (hence the appearance of an actual wing on the back). Given the (much larger) IDR was designed for Pikes peak, a far longer, wider and smoother hill climb, this little thing should be significantly quicker if the fan was actually doing anything! If it made the claimed 2,000 kg of downforce, on a sub 1,000kg car that means it should be able to pull 3g, which it clearly isn't.

I know Goodwood is bumpy and heavily cambered, but that's the problem with all "underfloor" aero, if it needs a dead flat surface to work, then really, it doesn't work.........

rupro

326 posts

133 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Watching this go up the hill makes me smile, giggle and swear out loud a lot (in a good way). I can't remember a modern car that made me this happy. Jolly good show!

Kawasicki

13,091 posts

236 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Max_Torque said:
I have to say i'm slightly dissapointed by the performance up the hill. It's quick, obvs, but it's also clear the fan is not doing a lot (hence the appearance of an actual wing on the back). Given the (much larger) IDR was designed for Pikes peak, a far longer, wider and smoother hill climb, this little thing should be significantly quicker if the fan was actually doing anything! If it made the claimed 2,000 kg of downforce, on a sub 1,000kg car that means it should be able to pull 3g, which it clearly isn't.

I know Goodwood is bumpy and heavily cambered, but that's the problem with all "underfloor" aero, if it needs a dead flat surface to work, then really, it doesn't work.........
Unless the limitation is not lateral grip capability, but rather vehicle dynamic controllability.

Joscal

2,078 posts

201 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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rupro said:
Watching this go up the hill makes me smile, giggle and swear out loud a lot (in a good way). I can't remember a modern car that made me this happy. Jolly good show!
Same here! Saw it on TV live and couldn’t believe how quick it looked.

Bonkers!

Big Nanas

1,352 posts

85 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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And only half a second off the current fastest time. Max Chiltern is driving tomorrow, so he’ll be feeling a bit of pressure I’m sure.

Olivera

7,154 posts

240 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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If this electric turd breaks the record then they need to let some properly fast ICE stuff run in 23.

williamp

19,262 posts

274 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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So is goodwood back to allowing proper all-out record attempts now?

Has anyone told the F1 teams??

Big Nanas

1,352 posts

85 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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williamp said:
So is goodwood back to allowing proper all-out record attempts now?

Has anyone told the F1 teams??
That’s what I was thinking.
The McLaren in ‘99 looked like it was on the verge of a massive accident on its entire run, but last years VW ID-r looked very ‘planted’.

Would Goodwood ban electric cars from future attempts because they’re so fast?

D4rez

1,397 posts

57 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Olivera said:
If this electric turd breaks the record then they need to let some properly fast ICE stuff run in 23.
Why bother, it’ll be beaten eventually by an EV lol

miniman

24,980 posts

263 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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Gives a new meaning to the term “stabbed rat” doesn’t it?

anonymous-user

55 months

Saturday 25th June 2022
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D4rez said:
Olivera said:
If this electric turd breaks the record then they need to let some properly fast ICE stuff run in 23.
Why bother, it’ll be beaten eventually by an EV lol
It’s somewhat telling that the guy most likely to break the current hill record is one of the best hill climb drivers in the country. Let the British hillclimb championship contenders have a crack in 2023, Summers, Menzies, Gould et al in their cars, I guarantee an ICE car will take the record. If they are brave enough to hit 150mph at Shelsley, Goodwood will be a breeze