RE: Incredible Prodrive P25 revealed ahead of debut

[angrymoby]

KarlMac said:

It actually looks loads better on a potato cam than it does in the renders. Wheels look like a really good tribute to R14 WRC (apart from not being gold!! ). Is there a lack of gear lever? Guess sequential will be run through paddles then?

Can't wait until Saturday, going to leave smudgy fingerprints all over it.

should be on gold Speedline 2013C's ...also applies to the 22B- never understood why they put those BBS rims on it?

[2ZZ Top]

So, 10p has been spent on the inside. It looks terrible.

BUT, that just makes the mechanicals even more exciting...

And I love the exterior.

[hairykrishna]

I really want to see one being driven.

[CarCrazyDad]

thegreenhell said:

They appear to have forgotten to install a gear lever.

I do agree

A manual would have been better

If not a manual, then a big huge mechanical sequential shifter in the center , since it's a "RaLlY cAr FoR tHe RoAd"

I appreciate keeping true to form but that interior is absolutely horrific and how on earth can it be justified for the money. That Alfa restomod is not only a nicer interior, but a proper drivers car with a manual gearbox and half the price (even it's expensive, and horrifically so, but at least it's not made from Milk Tray)

[Harrypop]

KarlMac said:

It actually looks loads better on a potato cam than it does in the renders. Wheels look like a really good tribute to R14 WRC (apart from not being gold!! ). Is there a lack of gear lever? Guess sequential will be run through paddles then?

Can't wait until Saturday, going to leave smudgy fingerprints all over it.

Is that not a paddle behind the steering wheel? Only appears to be on the one side from the pictures.

[RB Will]

I see for £550k you have to fit your own horn button

[anonymous-user]

All now sold according to pistonheads twitter account.

[big_rob_sydney]

That interior. What a fkn joke.

Anyone here who says they can see the "value", exhibit A suggests they've cut more than a few corners. POS.

[Slippydiff]

Prohibiting said:

NOT MY PHOTOS but these are doing the rounds (Goodwood Festival):

I'm speechless, and not for the right reasons ...

Edit to add : They could've at least tried to use a set of wheels that look reminiscent of the rally cars :







or the S6 P2000 wheels :

Edited by Slippydiff on Thursday 23 June 13:42

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Fascinating read Slippy. Thanks for taking the time to post.

[CarCrazyDad]

big_rob_sydney said:

That interior. What a fkn joke.

Anyone here who says they can see the "value", exhibit A suggests they've cut more than a few corners. POS.

Yup

Especially the drivers pedal box, that's shocking

[PAUL.S.]

I must admit I was expecting to see a road legal full WRC car built to 2022 spec engineering wise.

This now seems like an existing, (probably lesser spec than an original 22b) restored road car with a few trick bits.

With regards the restored project above. was this simply the damaged cast off shell of a car that was fully reshelled into a new shell and the ID/VIN and provenance transferred over to that new shell and that car still exits along with its Prodrive tags?

If so I guess it went on a q plate over here, or did it never get road registered in the UK?

Edited by PAUL.S. on Thursday 23 June 13:50

[take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey]

Slippydiff said:

Deliberate background or happy coincidence?

[2ZZ Top]

I think a fkn joke is a bit far, because it's not like they've tried to do a nice interior and completely failed. That would be a joke. They haven't even tried, so it's obviously a deliberate choice to have it looking completely... well, bland, I suppose. But you can certainly see they don't give a damn about building a complete show car. Obviously if a component doesn't show off their engineering side, they're not interested in it.

I expected much more rally influence inside. Not necessarily full doorbars and bare floors, but certainly some exposed carbon dash bits and custom gauge pods and some toggle switches would have been nice.

[Xander86]

Seen some of the pictures from the Festival of Speed and OH MY, what a beauty I still think it's pricey but I won't lie if I could I bloody would. What a machine it's going to be.

[Prohibiting]

Looking forward to Part 3, Slippy!!

[ch37]

SOLD OUT

Good job the PH collective aren't bean counters signing off projects such as these, isn't it?

[Slippydiff]

take-good-care-of-the-forest-dewey said:

Slippydiff said:

Deliberate background or happy coincidence?

Let's go with happy coincidence (not my photo)

[WCZ]

ch37 said:

SOLD OUT

Good job the PH collective aren't bean counters signing off projects such as these, isn't it?

where is the price ceiling on these, people will pay anything if they think it's an investment - could they have still sold 25 @ £700k each?

[RB Will]

WCZ said:

where is the price ceiling on these, people will pay anything if they think it's an investment - could they have still sold 25 @ £700k each?

I expect we will find out fairly shortly. Apparently Appreciating Classics have secured #25 so if that is up for anything less than £750k as soon as possible I'd be amazed.

Looking at the interior pics, I'm surprised it is based on the older classic not a facelift, though I guess when you are doing all this to it there isn't much difference.

I have to say I'm a little underwhelmed with it currently, especially that interior but having just seen a post on facebook from a friend who builds and looks after Subaru rally cars this may not be the final product. It will also be interesting to see how well it goes.

"Just had a good look round the prototype P25 and a long chat with one of the guys building it.
Yes, it looks like another wrc kitted car but when you talk to them and get an understanding of what's under the skin the price tag starts to make sense. It's probably got 50k in motorsport electronics and wiring alone. This is not a car that can be built with bolt on parts. Yes it was a bit rough in a couple of places (unpainted seat rails and a probably unfinished pedal box cover) but I'd expect that in a development car, hell I'd expect it in any car that's used properly. The car on show will be the development mule and staying with prodrive so is not really a reflection of what a customer car will be."

So it may well be a car that you can nt easily get or build anywhere else but I guess the question then becomes do the differences between what this car has and what you can knock up yourself add up to the extra £400-450k of driving experience / feel / ability, will they even be appreciable differences.