RE: Incredible Prodrive P25 revealed ahead of debut

[Draxindustries1]

Looks like a top heavy greenhouse on wheels..

[Its Just Adz]

Looks very similar to a track car a mate has. His is about 600 bhp and I'm sure he hasn't sank half a mill into it.

[Skylinecrazy]

Maxymillion said:

2ZZ Top said:

You could build something that looks and drives very similar for about £50k. That's £410,000 left over to make it look pretty and add a bit more lightness. I can't wait to see where the money has gone.

Totally bespoke, hand built by some of the best Motorsport techs in the world, almost ‘one off’ parts, billet uprights, Motorsport grade sequential, carbon all over it.

It was always going to be this kind of money, and no, 50 grand isn’t going to give you a similar experience.

The only sensible post.

People saying it’s too expensive are wrong, if it was too expensive it wouldn’t be sold out. Simple.

[Skylinecrazy]

GTRene said:

this one build with lots of expensive parts I guess? but not sure how ready it is, different pictures, some good some with work to do? anyhow, 45k

https://www.autoscout24.nl/aanbod/subaru-others-22...

How is that remotely comparable?

[GreatScott2016]

Draxindustries1 said:

Looks like a top heavy greenhouse on wheels..

Please help an old man and explain that comment to me?

[Roma101]

The principle is sound. The price is hilarious. But they have surely done their market research and have buyers already lined up and committed. Surely?

[Insert Coin]

Its Just Adz said:

Looks very similar to a track car a mate has. His is about 600 bhp and I'm sure he hasn't sank half a mill into it.

You can’t seriously compare a homebrew build with something engineered and built by Prodrive from scratch surely?

Not to mention exclusivity, warranty and meeting whatever regs vehicles have to meet these days to be roadworthy.

I’d give my left bk for one and use it everyday whilst I’m still able to, before ice cars get banned or I kick the bucket.

[WCZ]

Nad said:

I'm not sure why everyone is moaning about the cost

because we would love to buy one!

[Silvanus]

WCZ said:

Nad said:

I'm not sure why everyone is moaning about the cost

because we would love to buy one!

Speak for yourself!

[Moskvich]

I don't think there's any point discussing the price. This isnt your average 'leave your 100k mile car for a tuneup' type of build. This is multiple people on full time pay including pensions and taxes working for months to make sure just 25 cars will be as good as a gc8 can get with everything brand new and lots of it custom made or expensive motorsport grade st.

Sure you can 'build something with almost the same performance for 1/10' in your shed but this type of stuff is like everything else, the cost is exponential to performance and finish.

Manhours are probably 2/3 of the cost here. Forget that it's based on a known design. Imagine any renowned company producing only 25 cars that is not a Westfield, and you will get close to these prices.

[Pughmacher]

Oddly enough the first thought I had was I just hope it doesn’t have equal length headers. You need that off beat burble. I do hope they haven’t engineered that quirk out. The character would be so diminished if they have.

[anonymous-user]

Pughmacher said:

Oddly enough the first thought I had was I just hope it doesn’t have equal length headers. You need that off beat burble. I do hope they haven’t engineered that quirk out. The character would be so diminished if they have.

Equal length headers sound fantastic on this engine when opened up. It's still very distinctive and technically is far superior.

[leef44]

Arsecati said:

Reading through all that, I was damn near drooling, as it all sounded utterly divine.

Then got to the 'the dashboard is said to feature a full-width high-definition multi-page display', and I kinda cringed a little bit, getting terrible visions of the interior of a new Golf.



And then I got to the price.........



Ahhhh well..... I guess it's not for me then!!

Agreed, that is cringeworthy. Is it trying to be a luxury saloon Mercedes with that dash?

[leef44]

Wab1974uk said:

£552,000 Oh dear.

To be fair. it looks amazing. It needs smaller wheels though, as they look a bit silly.

Surely just go buy a delivery mileage (apparently there are still some out there) 22B that has the provenance of being the original. It also comes with a manual gearbox.

Well that's a missed opportunity. I thought they would price them at £555k

[Murph7355]

Now *that* is a restomod

Love it.

Wheels are a notch too big and should really be gold...but the rest of that exterior exudes quality, even from those few photos.

[Pughmacher]

jsf said:

Equal length headers sound fantastic on this engine when opened up. It's still very distinctive and technically is far superior.

I know that equal length headers are superior. Personally I’d forgo a bit of grunt for a bit of old school grumble! Bang bang anti lag would bad news for the motor as well but I’d love it! Either way unless I find a couple of gold bars down the back of the sofa it’s for the birds!

[borat52]

Moskvich said:

I don't think there's any point discussing the price. This isnt your average 'leave your 100k mile car for a tuneup' type of build. This is multiple people on full time pay including pensions and taxes working for months to make sure just 25 cars will be as good as a gc8 can get with everything brand new and lots of it custom made or expensive motorsport grade st.

Sure you can 'build something with almost the same performance for 1/10' in your shed but this type of stuff is like everything else, the cost is exponential to performance and finish.

Manhours are probably 2/3 of the cost here. Forget that it's based on a known design. Imagine any renowned company producing only 25 cars that is not a Westfield, and you will get close to these prices.

Take your existing GC8 to RCM and give them £50k and you might wonder where the extra £450/500k went on this.


Picked this up a year ago, a WRX V Ltd from 1996 built to commemorate McRae winning the WRC.

Full RCM 2.35 built from a 2.2 CDB, 6 speed box, AP Calipers all round.

Paid £24k for it during covid. 550k for an impreza is bonkers, even the 22b’s are devoid from reality given they were potentially bettered by the 5/6th gen classics.

Edited by borat52 on Tuesday 21st June 00:06

[Terminator X]

Love it. That price though :-/

TX.

[MCBrowncoat]

When I first saw it, I thought it just looks like a 22b, but actually it doesn't. It's very subtlety different.

It's a vision of the perfect Impreza I have in my head. I love it.

[plenty]

An irrelevant trinket for the uber-wealthy and the complete antithesis of everything that STi stood for - unassuming performance accessible to the everyman.