RE: The new BMW M3 Touring has officially arrived

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

SidewaysSi said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

SidewaysSi said:

Superflow said:

nickfrog said:

Careful as could be accused of being someone "who thinks he's above everyone else" for understanding such seemingly elementary concepts...

Poor form as that was another poster you have quoted and not me.

Overpriced is overpriced whether alternatives exist or not either absolutely or relatively.

It's underpriced. Fact.

I bought a bag of nuts today for £3.49. They were definitely overpriced.

If they're overpriced nuts, I assume you understand all about the costs of farming them, labour costs and machinery costs of getting them, collecting them, sorting them, transporting them, packaging them etc etc?

Nah, they were the finest nuts the supermarket had. Sat next to a bag for £1.89.

I was feeling wild so went big. Go big or go home after all...

So I went home with my expensive nuts.

Not as impressive as my £5 tin of mixed roasted salted nuts from M&S, old chum!

[Notanotherturbo]

V12GT said:

Am I getting used to it, or does that grille look less awful than it did?

Otherwise, yes please!

I think so too, I think they have made every model since progressively uglier and with a bigger grill so this and the 1 series now actually don't look too bad .

[AmyRichardson]

Notanotherturbo said:

I think so too, I think they have made every model since progressively uglier and with a bigger grill so this and the 1 series now actually don't look too bad .

The original press releases showed the M cars without a number plate and in contrast colour schemes, so you got full impact.

Presumably (despite the initial "fu$& you" response the BMW gave to criticism) they've got the message and they're now playing it down to the greatest degree possible.

Can imagine BMW law department pouring over Dukec's employment contract and looking for the cheapest way out...

[SidewaysSi]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

SidewaysSi said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

SidewaysSi said:

Superflow said:

nickfrog said:

Careful as could be accused of being someone "who thinks he's above everyone else" for understanding such seemingly elementary concepts...

Poor form as that was another poster you have quoted and not me.

Overpriced is overpriced whether alternatives exist or not either absolutely or relatively.

It's underpriced. Fact.

I bought a bag of nuts today for £3.49. They were definitely overpriced.

If they're overpriced nuts, I assume you understand all about the costs of farming them, labour costs and machinery costs of getting them, collecting them, sorting them, transporting them, packaging them etc etc?

Nah, they were the finest nuts the supermarket had. Sat next to a bag for £1.89.

I was feeling wild so went big. Go big or go home after all...

So I went home with my expensive nuts.

Not as impressive as my £5 tin of mixed roasted salted nuts from M&S, old chum!

Every fecker who I have ever seen munching those nuts has been a total chav. They want to show their mates they have a big dick with their fancy food when in reality they can barely afford a pot of yoghurt.

All anyone needs is my £3.49 pack - anything more is for pretentious fools..and I am always right.

[Every day a journey]

F*** me that is one seriously fking ugly thing!

[Spinner20]

Having seen it in the flesh yesterday it doesn't get any better. Too many angular, sticky out bits and flashy bits for my taste. Got worse when various m-performance parts were added. The M bucket seats are a joke in an estate, side bolsters that wouldn't look out of place on a GT3 RS but if you are using the estate for general duties they impede getting in/out quite a lot and will no doubt wear quickly with regular use. Inside generally better and a nice place to be. An estate as shouty as a Lambo which is perhaps what your dog would want.

As many have said the better looking car is the B3 and D3 which is on the Alpina stand a few hundred metres away.

[catfood12]

Spinner20 said:

Having seen it in the flesh yesterday it doesn't get any better. Too many angular, sticky out bits and flashy bits for my taste. Got worse when various m-performance parts were added. The M bucket seats are a joke in an estate, side bolsters that wouldn't look out of place on a GT3 RS but if you are using the estate for general duties they impede getting in/out quite a lot and will no doubt wear quickly with regular use. Inside generally better and a nice place to be. An estate as shouty as a Lambo which is perhaps what your dog would want.

As many have said the better looking car is the B3 and D3 which is on the Alpina stand a few hundred metres away.

The Daytona Violet one looked awesome. The Matte Black one did look too Kev'd up with all that Halfords looking CF tat. Those seats would indeed be impossible to live with. The side bolsters would indeed wear through in a few weeks of normal use. About the same time as your right hip trying to get in and out of them.

Overall, I was impressed. This is one of the last great ICE cars that you could keep and run for a few years and 100K miles. It's going towards EV whether we like it or not. I'd have one of those Renault 5s if it was an ICE Turbo!

[catfood12]

Daytona Purple M3 Touring at Goodwood....

[HighwayStar]

Spinner20 said:

Having seen it in the flesh yesterday it doesn't get any better. Too many angular, sticky out bits and flashy bits for my taste. Got worse when various m-performance parts were added. The M bucket seats are a joke in an estate, side bolsters that wouldn't look out of place on a GT3 RS but if you are using the estate for general duties they impede getting in/out quite a lot and will no doubt wear quickly with regular use. Inside generally better and a nice place to be. An estate as shouty as a Lambo which is perhaps what your dog would want.

As many have said the better looking car is the B3 and D3 which is on the Alpina stand a few hundred metres away.

You can have lesser seats, black/grey/usual somber interior that people then say looks boring. Then go for under the radar grey and sorted.

[r1ch]

Liking the purple, pretty cool that.

[liner33]

catfood12 said:

The Daytona Violet one looked awesome. The Matte Black one did look too Kev'd up with all that Halfords looking CF tat. Those seats would indeed be impossible to live with. The side bolsters would indeed wear through in a few weeks of normal use. About the same time as your right hip trying to get in and out of them.

Overall, I was impressed. This is one of the last great ICE cars that you could keep and run for a few years and 100K miles. It's going towards EV whether we like it or not. I'd have one of those Renault 5s if it was an ICE Turbo!

The carbon seats don’t wear out at all plenty have done 10’s of 1000’s of miles and hold up just fine

Don’t get me wrong they arent for me so I didn’t spec them but most people get on just fine with them and find them very comfortable

[cayman-black]

catfood12 said:

Daytona Purple M3 Touring at Goodwood....

Oh yes please, love that!

[Spinner20]

HighwayStar said:

You can have lesser seats, black/grey/usual somber interior that people then say looks boring. Then go for under the radar grey and sorted.

Agreed. What BMW demonstrated on the stand was a clear focus on the young rich man without a family spec who is perhaps trying to attract a girl to start a family that night whom might be impressed with a lary estate with 2 bucket seats and a mattress lying down in the boot and over the rear seats from which to consumate such a family. The rising tow bar was obviously not added as an option so that said young rich mans chosen consummating partner wouldn't make any direct comparisons to the gigantic rhino rise appearing from the depths of the rear undercarriage (of the car) and his own rise. All to the backdrop of a DJ and lights knocking out some ph(f)at beats.

[yme402]

Yes please.
First car I have seen in a long time to actually get excited about.
Bittersweet, as there won’t be many more M3s to come (as we know them)

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

catfood12 said:

Daytona Purple M3 Touring at Goodwood....

Epic colour.

[Escort3500]

Amazing performance

Ridiculous price

Awful buck-toothed front and prolapsed rear

[TyrannosauRoss Lex]

Escort3500 said:

Amazing performance

Ridiculous price

Awful buck-toothed front and prolapsed rear

All cars are ridiculously priced. When you think about it, it makes a Lotus Emira seem crazy. For £5k more you get more performance, more seats and a bigger boot and a nicer interior

For the avoidance of doubt, my comment is tongue in cheek, but when saying it's ridiculously priced I think one should at least give a reason as to why they think that and give an alternative which is considerably cheaper (because if it's only a bit cheaper then this can't be "ridiculously" priced. I'd be looking for 4WD estate cars with similar boot capacity, 500bhp and similar performance for, say, £60k? Anything over £60k wouldn't make this look "ridiculously priced".

Be keen to see what other 500bhp estates are out there for much less.

[Yahonza]

catfood12 said:

Daytona Purple M3 Touring at Goodwood....

Always liked deep purple. What's the sticking out bit at the back - future proofing for a big battery or ballast?
It has to be lauded as it is the last of a kind.

[Escort3500]

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

Escort3500 said:

Amazing performance

Ridiculous price

Awful buck-toothed front and prolapsed rear

All cars are ridiculously priced. When you think about it, it makes a Lotus Emira seem crazy. For £5k more you get more performance, more seats and a bigger boot and a nicer interior

For the avoidance of doubt, my comment is tongue in cheek, but when saying it's ridiculously priced I think one should at least give a reason as to why they think that and give an alternative which is considerably cheaper (because if it's only a bit cheaper then this can't be "ridiculously" priced. I'd be looking for 4WD estate cars with similar boot capacity, 500bhp and similar performance for, say, £60k? Anything over £60k wouldn't make this look "ridiculously priced".

Be keen to see what other 500bhp estates are out there for much less.

I wouldn’t say all cars are ridiculously priced, but if we’re talking about the M3 Touring’s rivals they are also ridiculously priced IMO.

[SidewaysSi]

Escort3500 said:

TyrannosauRoss Lex said:

Escort3500 said:

Amazing performance

Ridiculous price

Awful buck-toothed front and prolapsed rear

All cars are ridiculously priced. When you think about it, it makes a Lotus Emira seem crazy. For £5k more you get more performance, more seats and a bigger boot and a nicer interior

For the avoidance of doubt, my comment is tongue in cheek, but when saying it's ridiculously priced I think one should at least give a reason as to why they think that and give an alternative which is considerably cheaper (because if it's only a bit cheaper then this can't be "ridiculously" priced. I'd be looking for 4WD estate cars with similar boot capacity, 500bhp and similar performance for, say, £60k? Anything over £60k wouldn't make this look "ridiculously priced".

Be keen to see what other 500bhp estates are out there for much less.

I wouldn’t say all cars are ridiculously priced, but if we’re talking about the M3 Touring’s rivals they are also ridiculously priced IMO.

Agree. A £4k V70 is a far better car.