RE: Mercedes EQXX does 746 miles on single charge
Discussion
FlukePlay said:
Fantastic headline stats but does this stir any emotion? I simply cannot get excited by this, even the name EQXX, what does it all mean? Mercedes, please lend me one for a week so I can at least try to get converted.
EQXX = Electric, Quiet, Xtra Xtra long range...Edited by FlukePlay on Friday 24th June 12:03
ridds said:
I'd be curious to see the logged data from the run.
Time of day, route, actual speeds driven at. 56mph average is pretty high. Would suggest driven at night with no traffic.
They started at 7 am in Germany and arrived 12 hours later on the French Riviera, so not overnight. It was a regular journey, in regular traffic, slow at first but they were able to up the average speed in the middle and later sections. Time of day, route, actual speeds driven at. 56mph average is pretty high. Would suggest driven at night with no traffic.
Here is the Merc press release with lots of details, apologies to the conspiracy theorists that think they somehow cheated their way to this achievement. The press release puts any notion of that to bed. There is a video tab in the press release webpage that links to footage from the actual journey.
https://media.mbusa.com/releases/mercedes-benz-vis...
Fetthobler said:
Don't understand the negative comments about lack of emotions, etc.
I'm very ecited about this car, as I see it a successor of cars like the Audi A2 3L, which are cars with pure efficiency focus.
I used to enjoy driving these kind cars and still do alongside sportscars or motorcycles.
Because these cars fullfil the purpose of bringing me relaxed and efficient from A to B, I enjoy my sports cars or bikes even more.
Driving an exciting car on a day to day basis will ruin every eciting car(Believe me, I did this execise), as you don't see how good or exciting it is any more. We are humans and we're getting used to everything, when we drive it as a daily.
Therefore, I celebrate that these cars exists as they have a purpose and make driving more exciting cars even more exciting.
It'd be hilarious if VW announced this as we'd have even more lack of excitement, freezing cold, no soul comments. I'm very ecited about this car, as I see it a successor of cars like the Audi A2 3L, which are cars with pure efficiency focus.
I used to enjoy driving these kind cars and still do alongside sportscars or motorcycles.
Because these cars fullfil the purpose of bringing me relaxed and efficient from A to B, I enjoy my sports cars or bikes even more.
Driving an exciting car on a day to day basis will ruin every eciting car(Believe me, I did this execise), as you don't see how good or exciting it is any more. We are humans and we're getting used to everything, when we drive it as a daily.
Therefore, I celebrate that these cars exists as they have a purpose and make driving more exciting cars even more exciting.
It certainly seems very impressive and I even quite like the futuristic looks.
GT9 said:
Disingenuous comment I'm afraid.
The Mirai used around 190 kWh to do 845 miles, and AFAIK, speed was kept to the bare minimum to achieve maximum range.
The EQXX did 746 miles at normal driving speeds, AVERAGING 56 mph for the entire journey, including autobahn stints at 86 mph.
When it arrived it had used 85 kWh, and still had 15% left in the battery.
If the Mirai had attempted to follow the EQXX and keep up it would have run out of hydrogen long before the end, probably around the 500 mile mark.
The Merc averaged an equivalent economy of 300 mpg at normal driving speeds for 1000 km.
Just read that again to let it sink in.
The Miria would not get near 100 mpg on the same journey.
Credit where it is due, even though it's not a production car, the Merc's energy efficiency is a huge achievement.
Other car is concept car which is not coming to consumer markets. Mirai is already in production and you can actually buy it.The Mirai used around 190 kWh to do 845 miles, and AFAIK, speed was kept to the bare minimum to achieve maximum range.
The EQXX did 746 miles at normal driving speeds, AVERAGING 56 mph for the entire journey, including autobahn stints at 86 mph.
When it arrived it had used 85 kWh, and still had 15% left in the battery.
If the Mirai had attempted to follow the EQXX and keep up it would have run out of hydrogen long before the end, probably around the 500 mile mark.
The Merc averaged an equivalent economy of 300 mpg at normal driving speeds for 1000 km.
Just read that again to let it sink in.
The Miria would not get near 100 mpg on the same journey.
Credit where it is due, even though it's not a production car, the Merc's energy efficiency is a huge achievement.
LasseV said:
Other car is concept car which is not coming to consumer markets. Mirai is already in production and you can actually buy it.
Hmm.The Tesla S hypermile record is 701 miles at 38 km/h, from a 100 kWh battery.
The Mirai did 845 miles, at 'hypermiling speeds' from a 190 kWh tank of hydrogen.
Both impressive, both production cars.
You said BEVs are not good at this game, I've given a couple of examples of why that comment is disingenuous.
And let's ask ourselves if the object of the 'game' is just distance, or a combination of distance and economy?
And what about the time component?
Both of the production cars above required well over 24 hours to do it, the EQXX just 12 hours.
Whichever way want to paint it, it was a fantastic achievement.
GT9 said:
ridds said:
I'd be curious to see the logged data from the run.
Time of day, route, actual speeds driven at. 56mph average is pretty high. Would suggest driven at night with no traffic.
They started at 7 am in Germany and arrived 12 hours later on the French Riviera, so not overnight. It was a regular journey, in regular traffic, slow at first but they were able to up the average speed in the middle and later sections. Time of day, route, actual speeds driven at. 56mph average is pretty high. Would suggest driven at night with no traffic.
Here is the Merc press release with lots of details, apologies to the conspiracy theorists that think they somehow cheated their way to this achievement. The press release puts any notion of that to bed. There is a video tab in the press release webpage that links to footage from the actual journey.
https://media.mbusa.com/releases/mercedes-benz-vis...
Mostly Autoroute then, still a prtetty good effort.
GT9 said:
ridds said:
I'd be curious to see the logged data from the run.
Time of day, route, actual speeds driven at. 56mph average is pretty high. Would suggest driven at night with no traffic.
They started at 7 am in Germany and arrived 12 hours later on the French Riviera, so not overnight. It was a regular journey, in regular traffic, slow at first but they were able to up the average speed in the middle and later sections. Time of day, route, actual speeds driven at. 56mph average is pretty high. Would suggest driven at night with no traffic.
Here is the Merc press release with lots of details, apologies to the conspiracy theorists that think they somehow cheated their way to this achievement. The press release puts any notion of that to bed. There is a video tab in the press release webpage that links to footage from the actual journey.
https://media.mbusa.com/releases/mercedes-benz-vis...
SSBB said:
French Riviera? I thought they drove to Silverstone.
Not sure why you'd think that. It was Cassis on the Cote D'Azur. Despite my statement that they didn't cheat, I will admit that I'm giving them a free pass for the 500 metre difference in altitude between the start and finish points. Probably worth about 2.5 kWh.LasseV said:
Other car is concept car which is not coming to consumer markets. Mirai is already in production and you can actually buy it.
You might be able to buy a Mirai in the UK today, but depending upon where you live, you may not be able to refuel it easily. There are just 15 hydrogen stations in the UK (the government planned on having 65 by 2020, and apparently for complete coverage of the UK, we would need 1,000 hydrogen stations) So for all intents and purposes, just like this concept car, the Mirai is not an option.
GT9 said:
SSBB said:
French Riviera? I thought they drove to Silverstone.
Not sure why you'd think that. It was Cassis on the Cote D'Azur. Despite my statement that they didn't cheat, I will admit that I'm giving them a free pass for the 500 metre difference in altitude between the start and finish points. Probably worth about 2.5 kWh.Why oh why can't we have decent looking EVs? I know it's subjective but that thing is hideous, particularly the rear end. There is at least one good thing about getting old, I should see out my driving days with the ICE and if not, I'd be too old to care! Would manufacturers please stop trying to make the cars look overly futuristic just because they're electric 
SSBB said:
It’s just that the article mentioned Nyck de Vries did 11 laps of Silverstone at the end of the run. Unless the conversation has turned to some other run that I’ve missed.
Apologies, I was referencing the original 1000 km effort in April, for which there is a lot more information available about the journey details. GreatScott2016 said:
Why oh why can't we have decent looking EVs? I know it's subjective but that thing is hideous, particularly the rear end. There is at least one good thing about getting old, I should see out my driving days with the ICE and if not, I'd be too old to care! Would manufacturers please stop trying to make the cars look overly futuristic just because they're electric
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