RE: McMurtry Spéirling takes FOS Hillclimb record
Discussion
Dr Nookie said:
I'd be very happy having one of those for weekend blasts, despite it being totally incompatible with all the other traffic on the road.
You wouldn't be able to use it anywhere for more than a couple of seconds' acceleration. You'd be on the speed limit immediately.That's the point I was trying to make earlier; all EV cars are 'one-trick ponies' - they make accelerating very quickly and going very fast very easy, all with nothing to excite the driver. Once you've done 0-60mph a few times in an EV (which can feel absurd initially, although this wears off) there's nothing else to catch a petrolhead's interest.
Maybe one day they'll 'perfect' making EVs feel and sound like ICE cars, simulating gear-shifts, sounds and torque/power curves. But would that be enough, knowing it's all faked?
I know everyone's trying to be upbeat and look for the positives but I'm afraid I can't see any. EVs are perfect for boring daily commute duties - give me comfort, peace and quiet, a decent stereo, Android Auto/Apple CarPlay and heated/cooled seats and steering wheel etc...ideal, I'm on board with that. However that's literally all they'll be good for; unlike ICE cars there will be no 'thrill of driving' to be had at any legal speed and once you've done a few ballistic 0-60 runs that'll get boring too.
Edited by Funk on Monday 27th June 18:14
Funk said:
Dr Nookie said:
I'd be very happy having one of those for weekend blasts, despite it being totally incompatible with all the other traffic on the road.
You wouldn't be able to use it anywhere for more than a couple of seconds' acceleration. You'd be on the speed limit immediately.That's the point I was trying to make earlier; all EV cars are 'one-trick ponies' - they make accelerating very quickly and going very fast very easy, all with nothing to excite the driver. Once you've done 0-60mph a few times in an EV (which can feel absurd initially, although this wears off) there's nothing else to catch a petrolhead's interest.
Maybe one day they'll 'perfect' making EVs feel and sound like ICE cars, simulating gear-shifts, sounds and torque/power curves. But would that be enough, knowing it's all faked?
I know everyone's trying to be upbeat and look for the positives but I'm afraid I can't see any. EVs are perfect for boring daily commute duties - give me comfort, peace and quiet, a decent stereo, Android Auto/Apple CarPlay and heated/cooled seats and steering wheel etc...ideal, I'm on board with that. However that's literally all they'll be good for; unlike ICE cars there will be no 'thrill of driving' to be had at any legal speed and once you've done a few ballistic 0-60 runs that'll get boring too.
Edited by Funk on Monday 27th June 18:14
Yes, the acceleration can be insane - but it doesn't have to be. That's down to 'map' and heaviness of your right foot.
If it's small, light, nimble with good steering feel - then there's the ingredients for a whole lot of fun at normal road speeds
Sway said:
I disagree.
Yes, the acceleration can be insane - but it doesn't have to be. That's down to 'map' and heaviness of your right foot.
If it's small, light, nimble with good steering feel - then there's the ingredients for a whole lot of fun at normal road speeds
I hope I'm wrong but it doesn't bode well so far.Yes, the acceleration can be insane - but it doesn't have to be. That's down to 'map' and heaviness of your right foot.
If it's small, light, nimble with good steering feel - then there's the ingredients for a whole lot of fun at normal road speeds
big_rob_sydney said:
I saw the "contrail" behind this thing, and just thought I'd never seen another car go that fast before. Truly reminded me of some kind of jet plane. Very impressive. Who knows, maybe one day we'll have flying cars that are battery powered.
Wouldn't that be something...
Has to be a point where battery energy density and autonomy technology make it a thingWouldn't that be something...
Personally I'd love the mobility of a helicopter without having to strap myself into a dynamically unstable flying guillotine with a hundred single points of failure
This flew past us up by the flint wall and bloody hell it was shifting. The Supervan 4 also got a good crowd reaction. I’d love to see an ICE car take back the title though, however I think that horse may have bolted.
There was a gentleman with a nitrous Jensen interceptor in the car park with a big crowd around him proclaiming it was 3000 horsepower, although it looked to have an original and naturally aspirated engine so I’d love to know how much nitrous it needs to essentially have a similar power output to one of the fastest street cars in the world (RV3) - a bit of a tall tale methinks.
There was a gentleman with a nitrous Jensen interceptor in the car park with a big crowd around him proclaiming it was 3000 horsepower, although it looked to have an original and naturally aspirated engine so I’d love to know how much nitrous it needs to essentially have a similar power output to one of the fastest street cars in the world (RV3) - a bit of a tall tale methinks.
foxbody-87 said:
This flew past us up by the flint wall and bloody hell it was shifting. The Supervan 4 also got a good crowd reaction. I’d love to see an ICE car take back the title though, however I think that horse may have bolted.
There was a gentleman with a nitrous Jensen interceptor in the car park with a big crowd around him proclaiming it was 3000 horsepower, although it looked to have an original and naturally aspirated engine so I’d love to know how much nitrous it needs to essentially have a similar power output to one of the fastest street cars in the world (RV3) - a bit of a tall tale methinks.
this thing?There was a gentleman with a nitrous Jensen interceptor in the car park with a big crowd around him proclaiming it was 3000 horsepower, although it looked to have an original and naturally aspirated engine so I’d love to know how much nitrous it needs to essentially have a similar power output to one of the fastest street cars in the world (RV3) - a bit of a tall tale methinks.
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foxbody-87 said:
I’d love to see an ICE car take back the title though, however I think that horse may have bolted.
It'll never happen.That's akin to expecting a mechanical watch to outperform a quartz watch in accuracy; wishful thinking at its best.
Just know that there will be more BEVs coming at some point that will surpass the performance of even this car...
Funk said:
What's notable, in addition to the incredible speed, is that the width of it meant it simply didn't need to slow down to negotiate corners in the way wider cars did. Being able to straighten corners and reduce the amount of turning needed to make it through the corners meant it could carry phenomenal speed and it's an incredible technological achievement.
Yet watching the highlights of the fastest runs up the hill made me sad; cars like the Viper, 911 and Jaguar bellowing and roaring their way up the hill just ignites something in you that the soulless whine of the various electric cars just simply couldn't. As 'pistonheads' we've been fortunate to live through a golden age of motoring but despite electric cars being bonkers-quick they simply leave me cold. Nearly the end of an era, sadly.
^^^ ThisYet watching the highlights of the fastest runs up the hill made me sad; cars like the Viper, 911 and Jaguar bellowing and roaring their way up the hill just ignites something in you that the soulless whine of the various electric cars just simply couldn't. As 'pistonheads' we've been fortunate to live through a golden age of motoring but despite electric cars being bonkers-quick they simply leave me cold. Nearly the end of an era, sadly.
Edited by Funk on Monday 27th June 01:38
I can only speak from my personal opinion, but I have zero interest in EV's (and even less for ICE cars converted to EV).
WCZ said:
That’s the one. That spec sheet says 1100hp though, but the stick on letters said 3000. It’s also worth £1.75 million though according to that.helix402 said:
I was watching this at Molecomb yesterday. I was expecting a huge crash as it entered. I have never seen a car stick to the road at that speed before on a corner.
I often wonder how the drivers of these cars manage to recalibrate their brains. Us mere mortals would back out and bail way before getting anywhere near the limit. Or is it just blind faith it will stick (until it doesn’t)
Zumbruk said:
One day there's going to be a *big* accident at the FoS. And that'll be the end of the hillclimbing as it presently exists.
The IoM TT seems to kill several people each year and keeps plodding along, but yes it's amazing there hasn't been a serious accident at Goodwood FoS in recent years really. I seem to remember there was a fatality at the revival a few years ago? I haven't been to the hillclimb for years, but even 15 years ago I remember being amazed at the speed the cars were doing with nothing but hay bales between them and the spectators.
Edited by kambites on Monday 27th June 20:00
sidesauce said:
t'll never happen.
That's akin to expecting a mechanical watch to outperform a quartz watch in accuracy; wishful thinking at its best.
Just know that there will be more BEVs coming at some point that will surpass the performance of even this car...
A modern F1 car would beat it, maybe also an IndyCar, 919 Evo, and a Gould hillclimb car. But they're all too fast and banned, so hence slower EV stuff like the Speirling gets a shot at the record.That's akin to expecting a mechanical watch to outperform a quartz watch in accuracy; wishful thinking at its best.
Just know that there will be more BEVs coming at some point that will surpass the performance of even this car...
Olivera said:
sidesauce said:
t'll never happen.
That's akin to expecting a mechanical watch to outperform a quartz watch in accuracy; wishful thinking at its best.
Just know that there will be more BEVs coming at some point that will surpass the performance of even this car...
A modern F1 car would beat it, maybe also an IndyCar, 919 Evo, and a Gould hillclimb car. But they're all too fast and banned, so hence slower EV stuff like the Speirling gets a shot at the record.That's akin to expecting a mechanical watch to outperform a quartz watch in accuracy; wishful thinking at its best.
Just know that there will be more BEVs coming at some point that will surpass the performance of even this car...
The Speirling has 4wd and a big fan to suck it to the road, no gearchanges, plus the fact its pretty narrow helps.
I think they would be in the same ball park given the run in 1999, but I dont think it would be massively quicker. would be interesting to see.
The vapour trail reminds me of the low pressure effect of water vapor on fighter planes, was certainly dramatic, given the usual EV mode of near silence.
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