Rare editions of normal hatchbacks

[Pommy]

Toyota Corolla Blade Master G - Corolla with a 3.5 V6.

[anonymous-user]

ecsrobin said:

Have we had the Corolla GTi-16 yet? A friend had 2 and they were great fun with the 4age engine. Pretty sure there was a supercharged variant as well.

Two posts up. Had a hankering for them but apparently a bit small inside.

[Pieman68]

panholio said:

ChevronB19 said:

SeekerOfTruthAndPies said:

Wasn't there a Rolling Stones Edition Polo as well at some point?

And a pink Floyd edition

ETA: whoops, my mistake, that was a golf

Edited by ChevronB19 on Thursday 28th July 15:26

I believe there was a Bon Jovi edition golf as well, but I only ever saw one in Europe.

They missed a trick here. Could have had a runout version called the Golf Europe - The Final Countdown

[autofocus]

Hi there,

10 pages in and some great posts here.
No mention of the Abarth 695 Biposto as yet though.

Three colours released across 2015/16
Grey (cars not individually numbered but approx 250 in the world according to FCA Heritage. Around 30 cars in the UK)
Record Edition (133 made for the world, about 25 left in the UK, each car has numbered plaque)
Rosso Officine (99 made for the world, probably 4 or 5 in the UK, never officially sold by Fiat/Abarth as all went to Ferrari main dealers as courtesy cars, each car has a numbered plaque)
So in total less than 500 cars in the world and probably around 50 in the UK across the three colours







Top one is mine so I am a little bias but these are epic cars that many people think are just standard Abarths with bigger wheels and a body kit.

Regards

Tim

[thiscocks]

biggbn said:

thiscocks said:

Proo freader said:

Peugeot 104 Rallye

Not sure how many of those they made?

The later 104 ZS 2 was limited to just 1000. It used the 1.4 XY engine , I think on the same twin 35 solex side draught carbs which the rallye used (but on the older 1.1 unit). Just over 90hp, certainly not shabby.

The later Talbot Samba, which was essentially the same car as the 104 had a Rallye special edition of which I think only 500 were made. This had an even more special engine, being a 1.2 version of the XY but on twin 40 Weber side draught carbs. The same engine was used in the limited Citroen Visa Trophe model (with a different cam) which was the first group B rally car officially produced.

I had a visa gt chrono I think it was called with the 1360 and twin carbs, brilliant wee car

Cool car. The GT was separate to the Chrono but with the same engine. The French only limited run Chrono (93hp) had the 1360 XY engine but with bigger valve head and twin double choke Solex C35 PHHE 10 carbs. This one was limited to 219 models:












The standard Chrono (80hp) for the Europe market has the smaller valve head and either twin single choke down draught Solex 35 BISA 8 carbs or a single Solex 35 BISA 8 for the lower powered 72hp model- which can be distinguished by it having the spare wheel in the engine bay. All together there were about 3,600 Chronos made.









Italian colours for the Italian market ones. 500 made.

The Visa Trophee was made for group B and just 200 were made. It used the 1219cc XZ engine from the Visa super X but completely re-worked and on twin double choke Weber 40 DCOEs. It was rated at 100hp for the production car.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODU47snm5r8

The Visa Mille Pistes was effectively a 4x4 version of the Trophee with a bit more power and 258 made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnvSzZye7kA

[C70R]

carinaman said:

Save Ferris said:

I've always been attracted to unusual hot hatches! in the past I've had a Polo G40 and a Satria GTI,

Currently I've got an Abarth Punto esseesse, one of approximately 30 in the UK

I like how the Punto Abarth alloys aped the wheels on the Strada/Ritmp 105TC:

Presumably by being round?

Because otherwise, they have nothing in common.

[Colonel D]

autofocus said:

Regards

Tim

[TheBALDpuma]

Retro.74 said:

Bodo said:

Golf Country, built at Steyr-Daimler-Puch in Graz.

That thing was before it's time, would fit right in today

Saw one of these this morning! In Saltaire, Yorkshire on my way to work. Very very cool.

[MightyBadger]

autofocus said:

Hi there,

10 pages in and some great posts here.
No mention of the Abarth 695 Biposto as yet though.

Three colours released across 2015/16
Grey (cars not individually numbered but approx 250 in the world according to FCA Heritage. Around 30 cars in the UK)
Record Edition (133 made for the world, about 25 left in the UK, each car has numbered plaque)
Rosso Officine (99 made for the world, probably 4 or 5 in the UK, never officially sold by Fiat/Abarth as all went to Ferrari main dealers as courtesy cars, each car has a numbered plaque)
So in total less than 500 cars in the world and probably around 50 in the UK across the three colours







Top one is mine so I am a little bias but these are epic cars that many people think are just standard Abarths with bigger wheels and a body kit.

Regards

Tim

Are they quicker than standard arbarths?

[Drive Blind]

ChevronB19 said:

Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole

I recall the Tipo Sedicivalvole being highly regarded and winning magazine group tests of the time, yet never seeing any on the road.

[biggbn]

thiscocks said:

biggbn said:

thiscocks said:

Proo freader said:

Peugeot 104 Rallye

Not sure how many of those they made?

The later 104 ZS 2 was limited to just 1000. It used the 1.4 XY engine , I think on the same twin 35 solex side draught carbs which the rallye used (but on the older 1.1 unit). Just over 90hp, certainly not shabby.

The later Talbot Samba, which was essentially the same car as the 104 had a Rallye special edition of which I think only 500 were made. This had an even more special engine, being a 1.2 version of the XY but on twin 40 Weber side draught carbs. The same engine was used in the limited Citroen Visa Trophe model (with a different cam) which was the first group B rally car officially produced.

I had a visa gt chrono I think it was called with the 1360 and twin carbs, brilliant wee car

Cool car. The GT was separate to the Chrono but with the same engine. The French only limited run Chrono (93hp) had the 1360 XY engine but with bigger valve head and twin double choke Solex C35 PHHE 10 carbs. This one was limited to 219 models:












The standard Chrono (80hp) for the Europe market has the smaller valve head and either twin single choke down draught Solex 35 BISA 8 carbs or a single Solex 35 BISA 8 for the lower powered 72hp model- which can be distinguished by it having the spare wheel in the engine bay. All together there were about 3,600 Chronos made.









Italian colours for the Italian market ones. 500 made.

The Visa Trophee was made for group B and just 200 were made. It used the 1219cc XZ engine from the Visa super X but completely re-worked and on twin double choke Weber 40 DCOEs. It was rated at 100hp for the production car.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODU47snm5r8

The Visa Mille Pistes was effectively a 4x4 version of the Trophee with a bit more power and 258 made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnvSzZye7kA

Thanks man, on reflection I think my car had a single carb and it definitely had white steel wheels. It was that white colour with red decals and some kind of blue stripe

[ecsrobin]

autofocus said:

Hi there,

10 pages in and some great posts here.
No mention of the Abarth 695 Biposto as yet though.

Three colours released across 2015/16
Grey (cars not individually numbered but approx 250 in the world according to FCA Heritage. Around 30 cars in the UK)
Record Edition (133 made for the world, about 25 left in the UK, each car has numbered plaque)
Rosso Officine (99 made for the world, probably 4 or 5 in the UK, never officially sold by Fiat/Abarth as all went to Ferrari main dealers as courtesy cars, each car has a numbered plaque)
So in total less than 500 cars in the world and probably around 50 in the UK across the three colours







Top one is mine so I am a little bias but these are epic cars that many people think are just standard Abarths with bigger wheels and a body kit.

Regards

Tim

Because the op put: “Do you think you know of any rare performance editions of hatchbacks that others may have not heard before?”

I suspect the biposto is quite well known Maserati / Ferrari editions probably less so.

MightyBadger said:

Are they quicker than standard arbarths?

An extra 10bhp and a bit of weight saving to get under a ton but in the real world the comps arrived in the UK making more power than the 180bhp on paper wether it was the same for the biposto I’m not sure.

Edited by ecsrobin on Friday 29th July 19:12

[anonymous-user]

First (Giugiaro) Seat Ibiza Sportline. System Porsche engine.

I had the 1.5 with an Ansa exhaust and cut down springs, until I killed it.

They did a bimotor rally version too!

[ecsrobin]

thiscocks said:

Cool car. The GT was separate to the Chrono but with the same engine. The French only limited run Chrono (93hp) had the 1360 XY engine but with bigger valve head and twin double choke Solex C35 PHHE 10 carbs. This one was limited to 219 models:












The standard Chrono (80hp) for the Europe market has the smaller valve head and either twin single choke down draught Solex 35 BISA 8 carbs or a single Solex 35 BISA 8 for the lower powered 72hp model- which can be distinguished by it having the spare wheel in the engine bay. All together there were about 3,600 Chronos made.









Italian colours for the Italian market ones. 500 made.

The Visa Trophee was made for group B and just 200 were made. It used the 1219cc XZ engine from the Visa super X but completely re-worked and on twin double choke Weber 40 DCOEs. It was rated at 100hp for the production car.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODU47snm5r8

The Visa Mille Pistes was effectively a 4x4 version of the Trophee with a bit more power and 258 made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnvSzZye7kA

Wow that looks great. A new car for the wish list

[juice]

Mazda 323 4x4 Turbo

[Heaveho]

Section 8 said:

I had one of these at the same time as I owned one of the 4 Corolla GTIs I had.

Prior to that particular Sunny, there was a Sunny 1.8 Twincam circa 1989 / 90, much boxier looking thing and rare even then. We had one traded in, seem to remember it went well enough.

Am I right in thinking that Citroen did a ZX Volcane as well as a Saxo VTR and VTS? And the C2.

There's another 3 door model Citroen did a high performance derivative of around the same time, I'm away for a google to remember the name!

Ok, back in the room, the Xsara! How could I forget!

Edited by Heaveho on Friday 29th July 19:40

[ecsrobin]

juice said:

Mazda 323 4x4 Turbo

Discussed in the first few posts

[autofocus]

ecsrobin said:

autofocus said:

Hi there,

10 pages in and some great posts here.
No mention of the Abarth 695 Biposto as yet though.

Three colours released across 2015/16
Grey (cars not individually numbered but approx 250 in the world according to FCA Heritage. Around 30 cars in the UK)
Record Edition (133 made for the world, about 25 left in the UK, each car has numbered plaque)
Rosso Officine (99 made for the world, probably 4 or 5 in the UK, never officially sold by Fiat/Abarth as all went to Ferrari main dealers as courtesy cars, each car has a numbered plaque)
So in total less than 500 cars in the world and probably around 50 in the UK across the three colours







Top one is mine so I am a little bias but these are epic cars that many people think are just standard Abarths with bigger wheels and a body kit.

Regards

Tim

Because the op put: “Do you think you know of any rare performance editions of hatchbacks that others may have not heard before?”

I suspect the biposto is quite well known Maserati / Ferrari editions probably less so.

MightyBadger said:

Are they quicker than standard arbarths?

An extra 10bhp and a bit of weight saving to get under a ton but in the real world the comps arrived in the UK making more power than the 180bhp on paper wether it was the same for the biposto I’m not sure.

Edited by ecsrobin on Friday 29th July 19:12

Hi there,

Didn't mention the Maserati/Tributo Ferrari editions but like you say both also rare. Especially the Maserati edtions.
I have been to loads of car events and its very rare I bump into someone who knows what the Biposto is, avid petrolheads do tend to have heard of it.

Three Maserati editions together at Brooklands last year. Pretty good for saying there are around 550 cars world wide and only 50 of those are Grey.



and a Tributo Ferrari in Yellow



In terms of the differences between a Biposto and a 595 Comp. The weight difference is around 38kg, bhp wise you are correct the 2015 Comp did receive a power boost to 180bhp. The standard Biposto was 190bhp. 0-60 on Comp was 6.7 secs with the Biposoto down at 5.9 secs.

Regards

Tim

Edited by autofocus on Friday 29th July 20:59

[Retro.74]

1990/91 Honda Civic 1.6 VT. Considering the love the CRX VT got at the time, me included (esp celestial blue), I never really got why these flew so far under the radar. Same cracking high revving 150hp Vtec engine, good handling, low seating position must have been a dream compared to the wheezy old Ford CVH RS/XR stuff of the time, and certainly more pokey, but they just seemed very rare.
I ended up with the later shape EG6 158 hp VTi and that was fantastic too.

[TheBALDpuma]

autofocus said:

Hi there,

Didn't mention the Maserati/Tributo Ferrari editions but like you say both also rare. Especially the Maserati edtions.
I have been to loads of car events and its very rare I bump into someone who knows what the Biposto is, avid petrolheads do tend to have heard of it.

Three Maserati editions together at Brooklands last year. Pretty good for saying there are around 550 cars world wide and only 50 of those are Grey.



and a Tributo Ferrari in Yellow



In terms of the differences between a Biposto and a 595 Comp. The weight difference is around 38kg, bhp wise you are correct the 2015 Comp did receive a power boost to 180bhp. The standard Biposto was 190bhp. 0-60 on Comp was 6.7 secs with the Biposoto down at 5.9 secs.

Regards

Tim

Edited by autofocus on Friday 29th July 20:59

Surely 10bhp and 38 less kilos can't take 15% off a 0-60 time?