Rare editions of normal hatchbacks

[Dynion Araf Uchaf]

Nismo Note S

Similar engine to the Twingo RS but with more compression so puts out 138hp.

[matrignano]

autofocus said:

Hi there,

Didn't mention the Maserati/Tributo Ferrari editions but like you say both also rare. Especially the Maserati edtions.
I have been to loads of car events and its very rare I bump into someone who knows what the Biposto is, avid petrolheads do tend to have heard of it.

Three Maserati editions together at Brooklands last year. Pretty good for saying there are around 550 cars world wide and only 50 of those are Grey.



and a Tributo Ferrari in Yellow



In terms of the differences between a Biposto and a 595 Comp. The weight difference is around 38kg, bhp wise you are correct the 2015 Comp did receive a power boost to 180bhp. The standard Biposto was 190bhp. 0-60 on Comp was 6.7 secs with the Biposoto down at 5.9 secs.

Regards

Tim

Edited by autofocus on Friday 29th July 20:59

I thought these ever only made sense of you went fully mad with the lexan windows, dogleg box etc?
Can’t see it being that much quicker to 60 than a regular 595 otherwise ?

[AndyD360]

LarJammer said:

No mention of the excellently named Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole? Boring car fitted with an exciting 2.0 16v engine. Same chassis as the Fiat Coupe.

Had the 4 door version - absolutely loved it.

[autofocus]

matrignano said:

autofocus said:

Hi there,

Didn't mention the Maserati/Tributo Ferrari editions but like you say both also rare. Especially the Maserati edtions.
I have been to loads of car events and its very rare I bump into someone who knows what the Biposto is, avid petrolheads do tend to have heard of it.

Three Maserati editions together at Brooklands last year. Pretty good for saying there are around 550 cars world wide and only 50 of those are Grey.



and a Tributo Ferrari in Yellow



In terms of the differences between a Biposto and a 595 Comp. The weight difference is around 38kg, bhp wise you are correct the 2015 Comp did receive a power boost to 180bhp. The standard Biposto was 190bhp. 0-60 on Comp was 6.7 secs with the Biposoto down at 5.9 secs.

Regards

Tim

Edited by autofocus on Friday 29th July 20:59

I thought these ever only made sense of you went fully mad with the lexan windows, dogleg box etc?
Can’t see it being that much quicker to 60 than a regular 595 otherwise ?

Hi,

Interestingly it was only the Grey Biposto that was offered with the lexan windows, dogleg box etc. Both the Record Edition and Rosso Officine had no optional extras. The Record Edition did howver have many of the optional parts from the Grey cars as standard, plus the Record Editions have an LSD that was not available on the Grey cars.

Regards

Tim

[thiscocks]

biggbn said:

thiscocks said:

biggbn said:

thiscocks said:

Proo freader said:

Peugeot 104 Rallye

Not sure how many of those they made?

The later 104 ZS 2 was limited to just 1000. It used the 1.4 XY engine , I think on the same twin 35 solex side draught carbs which the rallye used (but on the older 1.1 unit). Just over 90hp, certainly not shabby.

The later Talbot Samba, which was essentially the same car as the 104 had a Rallye special edition of which I think only 500 were made. This had an even more special engine, being a 1.2 version of the XY but on twin 40 Weber side draught carbs. The same engine was used in the limited Citroen Visa Trophe model (with a different cam) which was the first group B rally car officially produced.

I had a visa gt chrono I think it was called with the 1360 and twin carbs, brilliant wee car

Cool car. The GT was separate to the Chrono but with the same engine. The French only limited run Chrono (93hp) had the 1360 XY engine but with bigger valve head and twin double choke Solex C35 PHHE 10 carbs. This one was limited to 219 models:












The standard Chrono (80hp) for the Europe market has the smaller valve head and either twin single choke down draught Solex 35 BISA 8 carbs or a single Solex 35 BISA 8 for the lower powered 72hp model- which can be distinguished by it having the spare wheel in the engine bay. All together there were about 3,600 Chronos made.









Italian colours for the Italian market ones. 500 made.

The Visa Trophee was made for group B and just 200 were made. It used the 1219cc XZ engine from the Visa super X but completely re-worked and on twin double choke Weber 40 DCOEs. It was rated at 100hp for the production car.









https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODU47snm5r8

The Visa Mille Pistes was effectively a 4x4 version of the Trophee with a bit more power and 258 made.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnvSzZye7kA

Thanks man, on reflection I think my car had a single carb and it definitely had white steel wheels. It was that white colour with red decals and some kind of blue stripe

Nice, never seen one in the UK. Id like the Chrono with the lower down rear number plate (pictured) and the Visa logo where the plate was put on other models. Looks mint!

[Hammer67]

Heaveho said:

Section 8 said:

I had one of these at the same time as I owned one of the 4 Corolla GTIs I had.

Prior to that particular Sunny, there was a Sunny 1.8 Twincam circa 1989 / 90, much boxier looking thing and rare even then. We had one traded in, seem to remember it went well enough.

Am I right in thinking that Citroen did a ZX Volcane as well as a Saxo VTR and VTS? And the C2.

There's another 3 door model Citroen did a high performance derivative of around the same time, I'm away for a google to remember the name!

Ok, back in the room, the Xsara! How could I forget!

Edited by Heaveho on Friday 29th July 19:40

Sunny 1.8ZX N13 model. Fitted with CA18DE engine 16v twink. I had one for a while and also the B12 ZX Coupe. 127bhp IIRC.
The CA18DE engine also saw service in the S13 200SX in RWD with a turbo and also the FWD Bluebird ZX.
The Sunny GTi N14 had the SR20DE as fitted to Primera GT, Almera GTi etc.
The GTI-R Sunny was 4wd and Turbo. Only 85 UK versions were sold.

[Heaveho]

Hammer67 said:

Sunny 1.8ZX N13 model. Fitted with CA18DE engine 16v twink. I had one for a while and also the B12 ZX Coupe. 127bhp IIRC.
The CA18DE engine also saw service in the S13 200SX in RWD with a turbo and also the FWD Bluebird ZX.
The Sunny GTi N14 had the SR20DE as fitted to Primera GT, Almera GTi etc.
The GTI-R Sunny was 4wd and Turbo. Only 85 UK versions were sold.

I like that. I'd consider buying one now if I could find one, my memory of it was that it was a good drive. The K plate Sunny GTI I had wasn't really what I expected. I was hoping it would feel like a faster version of the Corolla, but it wasn't as good a car handling and steering wise. The quality was poor compared to the Toyota.

[anonymous-user]

Hammer67 said:

Heaveho said:

Section 8 said:

I had one of these at the same time as I owned one of the 4 Corolla GTIs I had.

Prior to that particular Sunny, there was a Sunny 1.8 Twincam circa 1989 / 90, much boxier looking thing and rare even then. We had one traded in, seem to remember it went well enough.

Am I right in thinking that Citroen did a ZX Volcane as well as a Saxo VTR and VTS? And the C2.

There's another 3 door model Citroen did a high performance derivative of around the same time, I'm away for a google to remember the name!

Ok, back in the room, the Xsara! How could I forget!

Edited by Heaveho on Friday 29th July 19:40

Sunny 1.8ZX N13 model. Fitted with CA18DE engine 16v twink. I had one for a while and also the B12 ZX Coupe. 127bhp IIRC.
The CA18DE engine also saw service in the S13 200SX in RWD with a turbo and also the FWD Bluebird ZX.
The Sunny GTi N14 had the SR20DE as fitted to Primera GT, Almera GTi etc.
The GTI-R Sunny was 4wd and Turbo. Only 85 UK versions were sold.

There was also the Nissan Sunny ZX turbo as well. Used to walk past one in my local village and had quite a bodykit on it. Looked very pumped up.

[keo]

Clio 182 Trophy. 500 U.K cars and I think 50 for another country I can’t remember it’s been a long time. Some great cars being posted I love a hot hatch.

[Baldchap]

Don't think anyone has mentioned the Daihatsu Charade DeTomaso Turbo yet...



I love the 80s style stickers.

[Hammer67]

pocketspring said:

There was also the Nissan Sunny ZX turbo as well. Used to walk past one in my local village and had quite a bodykit on it. Looked very pumped up.

Must have been an import as IIRC the only UK Sunny factory turbo was the GTI-R.
Might have been a Cherry Turbo?

[anonymous-user]

Hammer67 said:

pocketspring said:

There was also the Nissan Sunny ZX turbo as well. Used to walk past one in my local village and had quite a bodykit on it. Looked very pumped up.

Must have been an import as IIRC the only UK Sunny factory turbo was the GTI-R.
Might have been a Cherry Turbo?

Wasn't a Cherry, I'm sure it was either a G or H reg, leaning more to the H reg. I'll see if I can find an image.



Pretty much looked like this.

Edited by anonymous-user on Saturday 30th July 09:42

[ImFeelingSaucy]

Toyota Starlet GT Turbo




I raced against one of these a few years back and it was a rocket ship.

It had a turbo the size of a bin lid (not standard) and disappeared on the straights like the Millenium Falcon hitting hyperdrive.

It embarrassed me in my M3 many times.

[Hub]

LarJammer said:

No mention of the excellently named Fiat Tipo Sedicivalvole? Boring car fitted with an exciting 2.0 16v engine. Same chassis as the Fiat Coupe.

A lot of forgotten French and Italian hot hatches on this thread. What about the Citroen ZX 16v too? According to the How Many Left site, there were a maximum of 500 on the road in the mid-late 90s, but they had a very high rate of attrition with only 84 on the road 10 years later, and now only 3 taxed and on the road. They've always been a very rare sight.

[Hammer67]

pocketspring said:

Hammer67 said:

pocketspring said:

There was also the Nissan Sunny ZX turbo as well. Used to walk past one in my local village and had quite a bodykit on it. Looked very pumped up.

Must have been an import as IIRC the only UK Sunny factory turbo was the GTI-R.
Might have been a Cherry Turbo?

Wasn't a Cherry, I'm sure it was either a G or H reg, leaning more to the H reg. I'll see if I can find an image.



Pretty much looked like this.

Edited by pocketspring on Saturday 30th July 09:42

That's a B12 ZX Coupe, fitted with same engine as the N13, a CA18DE or possibly a 1.6 version CA16DE. Wasn't a turbo though, well not for the UK market.

[anonymous-user]

Hammer67 said:

That's a B12 ZX Coupe, fitted with same engine as the N13, a CA18DE or possibly a 1.6 version CA16DE. Wasn't a turbo though, well not for the UK market.

Must have been an import then. The one in the picture is JDM. It definitely had ZX Turbo stickers on the back and down the doors.

[anonymous-user]

Baldchap said:

Don't think anyone has mentioned the Daihatsu Charade DeTomaso Turbo yet...



I love the 80s style stickers.

I always liked that car’s 90s equivalent the Cuore Avonzato especially popular as a entry level rally car around the millennium.

[Baldchap]

Newarch said:

Baldchap said:

Don't think anyone has mentioned the Daihatsu Charade DeTomaso Turbo yet...



I love the 80s style stickers.

I always liked that car’s 90s equivalent the Cuore Avonzato especially popular as a entry level rally car around the millennium.

Been mentioned earlier in the thread.

For me this is my absolute favourite 90s car. I don't know why I didn't buy one years ago but now they're too long in the tooth.

Just the name makes me smile: Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato TR-XX R4. Overkill perhaps? Nah!

[anonymous-user]

Baldchap said:

Been mentioned earlier in the thread.

For me this is my absolute favourite 90s car. I don't know why I didn't buy one years ago but now they're too long in the tooth.

Just the name makes me smile: Daihatsu Cuore Avanzato TR-XX R4. Overkill perhaps? Nah!

Ironically far too long a name to actually fit on the teeny little hatch

[BricktopST205]

Opel Kadett SuperBoss

SA version of the Astra GTE on steroids. 170BHP (228NM of torque!! which was a N/A per litre record until beaten by the 458) and LSD as standard. In 1990 there was nothing that could touch it. It would take a good decade for anything to come out with both the power and torque of this thing.