cyclists at night
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BlueJazz said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62444889
And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
How many cyclists a year are convicted of causing death? About one a year is prosecuted I seem to recall.And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
gazza285 said:
BlueJazz said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62444889
And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
How many cyclists a year are convicted of causing death? About one a year is prosecuted I seem to recall.And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
95% of light jumping vehicles that hit pedestrians are motorised.
This smacks of a Tory party appeal to their Daily Mail reading base rather than any actual attempt to improver road safety.
smn159 said:
gazza285 said:
BlueJazz said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62444889
And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
How many cyclists a year are convicted of causing death? About one a year is prosecuted I seem to recall.And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
95% of light jumping vehicles that hit pedestrians are motorised.
Of the 400 pedestrians that die each year in collision with vehicles, what proportion were due to the vehicle and how many due to the pedestrian?
gazza285 said:
BlueJazz said:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62444889
And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
How many cyclists a year are convicted of causing death? About one a year is prosecuted I seem to recall.And now, a proposal for tougher sentences for those cyclists who kill.
And how much whataboutery have you got left in the tank?
swisstoni said:
How many cyclists died because they were invisible.
And how much whataboutery have you got left in the tank?
After looking at Google, about four in the last twenty years. Less than drivers killed after hitting a parked car. What about that? And how much whataboutery have you got left in the tank?
A bit like increasing sentencing for cyclists who kill pedestrians through dangerous riding, the amount of cyclists on the road without lights is such a small problem it is not really worth discussion. Most people out after dark on unlit cycles are not serious cyclists doing big miles, they are youths riding on pavements to hang out with their d
head mates for the most part.
gazza285 said:
...the amount of cyclists on the road without lights is such a small problem it is not really worth discussion. Most people out after dark on unlit cycles are not serious cyclists doing big miles, they are youths riding on pavements to hang out with their dhead mates for the most part.
There aren't any pavements near me - just many cyclists with no lights during the hours of darkness. I live in fear of hitting one. It's a real problem !head mates for the most part.But not for townies
smn159 said:
This smacks of a Tory party appeal to their Daily Mail reading base rather than any actual attempt to improver road safety.
As if by magic, today's Daily Mail front page headline: "Reckless Cyclists Face Jail Crackdown"First line starts "Killer cyclists..."
So no sensationalism on their part then.
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
But not for townies
I wouldn't know, I don't live in the town.gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
But not for townies
I wouldn't know, I don't live in the town.
bigothunter said:
What an utterly ridiculous response - you are a fool...
Well you are the one that came up with this stuff about hordes of unlit cyclists on dark rural roads. I doubt if many people could put their hands on their hearts and say that they encounter this very often. Kids doing wheelies on unlit BMXs outside the village Budgens maybe….bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
They must be lunatics to take so much unnecessary risk
Sounds like a load of made up bks, to be frank.Riding in the dark on an unlit road with no lights is blooming difficult as you can't see the hedges and road at all. I can't imagine many people doing it regularly as it really isn't a pleasant experience.
boyse7en said:
Gotta say I'm intrigued about where it is that there are no pavements, no streetlights, but significant numbers of cyclists riding at night with no lights at all.
Riding in the dark on an unlit road with no lights is blooming difficult as you can't see the hedges and road at all. I can't imagine many people doing it regularly as it really isn't a pleasant experience.
It relies on passing cars having headlightsRiding in the dark on an unlit road with no lights is blooming difficult as you can't see the hedges and road at all. I can't imagine many people doing it regularly as it really isn't a pleasant experience.
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
What an utterly ridiculous response...
To an utterly rediculous premise. 
Regardless Gazza, you have inspired me to keep stock. Went into town tonight which is 4 miles away. Encountered two cyclists riding on the road bordered by pavements and street lights. Both were dressed in dark clothing. First had a solid rear lamp but nothing at front. Second had no illumination. But twilight at 21:10hrs meant they could still be seen so not a great problem.
Urban cycist score = 25% illumination
No cyclists encountered on unlit rural roads. Will keep you updated as my survey progresses
boyse7en said:
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
They must be lunatics to take so much unnecessary risk
Sounds like a load of made up bks, to be frank.Riding in the dark on an unlit road with no lights is blooming difficult as you can't see the hedges and road at all. I can't imagine many people doing it regularly as it really isn't a pleasant experience.
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