cyclists at night
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bigothunter said:
Exoticlover said:
I, when cycling, jump red lights.
You, when driving, stop at red lights. What makes you behave differently?Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Unless he is a big fking hypocrite of course, in which case cast away.
monthou said:
bigothunter said:
Exoticlover said:
I, when cycling, jump red lights.
You, when driving, stop at red lights. What makes you behave differently?Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
Unless he is a big fking hypocrite of course, in which case cast away.
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Cyclists blatantly break speed limits too, especially in London's 20 zones. But of course, cyclists are above that law
What speed limits are those? Other than Richmond Park, I don’t know of any.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51674...
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Cyclists blatantly break speed limits too, especially in London's 20 zones. But of course, cyclists are above that law
What speed limits are those? Other than Richmond Park, I don’t know of any.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51674...
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Cyclists blatantly break speed limits too, especially in London's 20 zones. But of course, cyclists are above that law
What speed limits are those? Other than Richmond Park, I don’t know of any.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51674...
https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/cyclists-can-no...
Happy to help
Hope your research into unlit cyclists was a little more thorough
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Non of those apply to cyclists.As Mothou said speed limits dont aply to pedestrians horses and bikes ( and a few others)
a because they generally dont travel as fast as a speed limit (until those in the above link were introduced)
b. they'd all need speedometers fitted ( a suitable phone could be used)
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Cyclists blatantly break speed limits too, especially in London's 20 zones. But of course, cyclists are above that law
What speed limits are those? Other than Richmond Park, I don’t know of any.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51674...
Exoticlover said:
bigothunter said:
Exoticlover said:
I, when cycling, jump red lights.
You, when driving, stop at red lights. What makes you behave differently?saaby93 said:
Nor did it say what type of accidents increased or decreased
As Mothou said speed limits dont aply to pedestrians horses and bikes ( and a few others)
a because they generally dont travel as fast as a speed limit (until those in the above link were introduced)
b. they'd all need speedometers fitted ( a suitable phone could be used)
20 is plenty except when it isn't As Mothou said speed limits dont aply to pedestrians horses and bikes ( and a few others)
a because they generally dont travel as fast as a speed limit (until those in the above link were introduced)
b. they'd all need speedometers fitted ( a suitable phone could be used)
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Cyclists blatantly break speed limits too, especially in London's 20 zones. But of course, cyclists are above that law
What speed limits are those? Other than Richmond Park, I don’t know of any.https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-51674...
saaby93 said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Non of those apply to cyclists.As Mothou said speed limits dont aply to pedestrians horses and bikes ( and a few others)
a because they generally dont travel as fast as a speed limit (until those in the above link were introduced)
b. they'd all need speedometers fitted ( a suitable phone could be used)
NotDMike said:
saaby93 said:
gazza285 said:
bigothunter said:
Non of those apply to cyclists.As Mothou said speed limits dont aply to pedestrians horses and bikes ( and a few others)
a because they generally dont travel as fast as a speed limit (until those in the above link were introduced)
b. they'd all need speedometers fitted ( a suitable phone could be used)
What was this thread about again
Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 7th August 13:16
saaby93 said:
yeah but for balance remember that every mile travelled by bike is more likely to kill (or injure) a pedestrian than per mile travelled by car. As the miles travelled are lower it's not highlighted by most stats but there is a move to segregation.
What was this thread about again
And there’s not a lot of cyclists or pedestrians on the roads with most cars. Motorways and major A roads.What was this thread about again
Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 7th August 13:16
saaby93 said:
yeah but for balance remember that every mile travelled by bike is more likely to kill (or injure) a pedestrian than per mile travelled by car.
A meaningless comparison.How likely is it if you only consider urban miles travelled, which is where most pedestrians are killed?
There's 68,000 cars a day using the Pennine section of the M62, it's 15 miles between J20 and J24, so that's over a million miles a day just on that stretch. There are zero pedestrians to hit.
Electro1980 said:
saaby93 said:
yeah but for balance remember that every mile travelled by bike is more likely to kill (or injure) a pedestrian than per mile travelled by car. As the miles travelled are lower it's not highlighted by most stats but there is a move to segregation.
What was this thread about again
And there’s not a lot of cyclists or pedestrians on the roads with most cars. Motorways and major A roads.What was this thread about again
gazza285 said:
saaby93 said:
yeah but for balance remember that every mile travelled by bike is more likely to kill (or injure) a pedestrian than per mile travelled by car.
A meaningless comparison.How likely is it if you only consider urban miles travelled, which is where most pedestrians are killed?
There's 68,000 cars a day using the Pennine section of the M62, it's 15 miles between J20 and J24, so that's over a million miles a day just on that stretch. There are zero pedestrians to hit.
It just means that overall if you go out for a mile on your bike youre more likely to injure kill a pedestrian than if you go out for a mile by car.
On the other hand you're likely to travel more miles per car which puts the figures the other way around.
Since Covid bike travel has increased vs car travel and there may be more pedestrians around
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