cyclists at night

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Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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bigothunter said:
Mave said:
That taxi is in the video.
The pedestrian he passes behind is the same pedestrian that the cyclist tries to pass behind.
I was only jesting jester
So you agree that the taxi in the screenshot was in the same video?
And that the taxi was in the same carriageway as a pedestrian who he passed behind?
And that the cyclist was trying to do exactly the same thing, ie timing it so he would pass behind the pedestrian?
And yet the cyclist was broadly condemned, but the taxi driver was not?

bigothunter

11,280 posts

60 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Mave said:
So you agree that the taxi in the screenshot was in the same video?
And that the taxi was in the same carriageway as a pedestrian who he passed behind?
And that the cyclist was trying to do exactly the same thing, ie timing it so he would pass behind the pedestrian?
And yet the cyclist was broadly condemned, but the taxi driver was not?
Objectively, those bike and taxi scenarios are different. The second taxi driver was too hasty approaching the crossing, where the pedestrian was just one step from the island. But that's rather a moot point. Take another look at the video to understand what I mean.

nb No smileys


saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Maybe the pedestrian had a history of near misses with bikes but not with taxis.
Who knows
(Is the taxi as close)

Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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saaby93 said:
Maybe the pedestrian had a history of near misses with bikes but not with taxis.
Who knows

Would that make the cyclist's close pass any worse than the taxi's close pass?

saaby93 said:
(Is the taxi as close)
Clearly not.. because the pedestrian stopped and turned around on the crossing..

Edited by Mave on Monday 8th August 21:12

Mave

8,208 posts

215 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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bigothunter said:
Mave said:
So you agree that the taxi in the screenshot was in the same video?
And that the taxi was in the same carriageway as a pedestrian who he passed behind?
And that the cyclist was trying to do exactly the same thing, ie timing it so he would pass behind the pedestrian?
And yet the cyclist was broadly condemned, but the taxi driver was not?
Objectively, those bike and taxi scenarios are different. The second taxi driver was too hasty approaching the crossing, where the pedestrian was just one step from the island. But that's rather a moot point. Take another look at the video to understand what I mean.

nb No smileys
In both cases the pedestrian was established on the crossing.
The cyclist and motorist were both too hasty approaching the junction.
The cyclist and motorist both intended to go over the crossing whilst the pedestrian was still on it.
The cyclist and motorist both tried to time it so that they passed behind the pedestrian.
Why are they objectively different scenarios?

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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bigothunter said:
Disastrous said:
Honestly, what’s with the endless smileys?? You’re like a teenage girl.

It makes some pretty ignorant/dumb posts several factors more moronic.
Is that really the best insult you can do? frown
Bigot, they’re not insults. They’re facts.

911hope

2,705 posts

26 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Is there any point in this thread, beyond hosting the usual tribal nonsense. The haters vs. the defenders.

It seems to have descended to the lowest level.

Is anything going to be accomplished?
Is anyone going to change their view?

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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911hope said:
Is there any point in this thread, beyond hosting the usual tribal nonsense. The haters vs. the defenders.
It's not quite that
Isnt it about those claiming there are haters but no-one here has expressed hate.
If it's tribal it's not clear how many tribes

john41901

713 posts

66 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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A much slower vehicle that is encouraged to “take the primary” as often as deemed necessary if they alone discern it to be appropriate, armed with head cams, always ready to upload footage to the authorities of “close passes” or anything else they don’t find palatable, is not generally going to engender warm friendly and harmonious feelings amongst other road users in a conflict free environment, especially when breaking the rules themselves, cycling through red lights and up the inside of left turning trucks without number plates, road tax or even any other means of identification. The sooner Darwinism takes its toll on these militant fools the better in my view. I absolutely despise them. Absolute s quite honestly.

monthou

4,582 posts

50 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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john41901 said:
A much slower vehicle that is encouraged to “take the primary” as often as deemed necessary if they alone discern it to be appropriate, armed with head cams, always ready to upload footage to the authorities of “close passes” or anything else they don’t find palatable, is not generally going to engender warm friendly and harmonious feelings amongst other road users in a conflict free environment, especially when breaking the rules themselves, cycling through red lights and up the inside of left turning trucks without number plates, road tax or even any other means of identification. The sooner Darwinism takes its toll on these militant fools the better in my view. I absolutely despise them. Absolute s quite honestly.
3/10

gazza285

9,816 posts

208 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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john41901 said:
A much slower vehicle that is encouraged to “take the primary” as often as deemed necessary if they alone discern it to be appropriate, armed with head cams, always ready to upload footage to the authorities of “close passes” or anything else they don’t find palatable, is not generally going to engender warm friendly and harmonious feelings amongst other road users in a conflict free environment, especially when breaking the rules themselves, cycling through red lights and up the inside of left turning trucks without number plates, road tax or even any other means of identification. The sooner Darwinism takes its toll on these militant fools the better in my view. I absolutely despise them. Absolute s quite honestly.
Damn those left turning trucks without number plates!

J4CKO

41,588 posts

200 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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john41901 said:
A much slower vehicle that is encouraged to “take the primary” as often as deemed necessary if they alone discern it to be appropriate, armed with head cams, always ready to upload footage to the authorities of “close passes” or anything else they don’t find palatable, is not generally going to engender warm friendly and harmonious feelings amongst other road users in a conflict free environment, especially when breaking the rules themselves, cycling through red lights and up the inside of left turning trucks without number plates, road tax or even any other means of identification. The sooner Darwinism takes its toll on these militant fools the better in my view. I absolutely despise them. Absolute s quite honestly.
Yes, all cyclists are “militant fools”, “taking the primary” wearing cameras smile

Maybe some just like a bike ride occasionally and endeavour to enjoy that safely, whilst trying their utmost to not get in the way more than is absolutely necessary.

Would you call me a to my face, just because I happen to occasionally ride a bicycle ?

Thought not, step away from the Daily Mail, lay off the Sherry and think before you post as you just made yourself look a little strange.


Gweeds

7,954 posts

52 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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john41901 said:
A much slower vehicle that is encouraged to “take the primary” as often as deemed necessary if they alone discern it to be appropriate, armed with head cams, always ready to upload footage to the authorities of “close passes” or anything else they don’t find palatable, is not generally going to engender warm friendly and harmonious feelings amongst other road users in a conflict free environment, especially when breaking the rules themselves, cycling through red lights and up the inside of left turning trucks without number plates, road tax or even any other means of identification. The sooner Darwinism takes its toll on these militant fools the better in my view. I absolutely despise them. Absolute s quite honestly.
The fking state of this.

Idiot still thinks road tax is a thing.

bigothunter

11,280 posts

60 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Disastrous said:
Bigot, they’re not insults. They’re facts.
Disastrous by name, Disastrous by nature, Disastrous by sense hehe

bigothunter

11,280 posts

60 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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911hope said:
Is there any point in this thread, beyond hosting the usual tribal nonsense. The haters vs. the defenders.

It seems to have descended to the lowest level.

Is anything going to be accomplished?
Is anyone going to change their view?
You have a valid point...

But I still love these cycling threads. They expose all the tts. And demonstrate why there is such division between motorists and some cyclists.

What a shame we cannot work together towards the common good. Surely our objectives cannot be so different. But with such entrenched attitudes, there appears to be little hope rolleyes

Disastrous

10,083 posts

217 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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bigothunter said:
Disastrous said:
Bigot, they’re not insults. They’re facts.
Disastrous by name, Disastrous by nature, Disastrous by sense hehe
Christ, that is utterly feeble. I feel a wee bit sorry for you tbh. Forget I said anything - you’re doing great and you’ve absolutely got this thread nailed. Great job!

Anyway, back on topic, I went for a cycle yesterday and was struck by how much consideration cars showed me. I’ve recently got back into road riding and it’s definitely better than it was last time I was out.

Maybe the UK is becoming more cyclist-aware…?

Killboy

7,328 posts

202 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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bigothunter said:
But I still love these cycling threads. They expose all the tts.
Yes, but thankfully they make complete fools out of themselves so it's entertaining at least.

monthou

4,582 posts

50 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Killboy said:
bigothunter said:
But I still love these cycling threads. They expose all the tts.
Yes, but thankfully they make complete fools out of themselves so it's entertaining at least.
It's nice when a thread ends in universal agreement.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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john41901 said:
A much slower vehicle that is encouraged to “take the primary” as often as deemed necessary if they alone discern it to be appropriate, armed with head cams, always ready to upload footage to the authorities of “close passes” or anything else they don’t find palatable, is not generally going to engender warm friendly and harmonious feelings amongst other road users in a conflict free environment, especially when breaking the rules themselves, cycling through red lights and up the inside of left turning trucks without number plates, road tax or even any other means of identification. The sooner Darwinism takes its toll on these militant fools the better in my view. I absolutely despise them. Absolute s quite honestly.
At least we have something to work with now...
Does other road users include pedestrians and horses as well as other vehicles?

bigothunter

11,280 posts

60 months

Monday 8th August 2022
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Disastrous said:
Christ, that is utterly feeble. I feel a wee bit sorry for you tbh. Forget I said anything - you’re doing great and you’ve absolutely got this thread nailed. Great job!
The sheer nauseating pain in communicating with you is overwhelming. Why can't you be reasonable and make sense?