cyclists at night

[Disastrous]

bigothunter said:

Disastrous said:

Christ, that is utterly feeble. I feel a wee bit sorry for you tbh. Forget I said anything - you’re doing great and you’ve absolutely got this thread nailed. Great job!

The sheer nauseating pain in communicating with you is overwhelming. Why can't you be reasonable and make sense?

Quality content as ever.

Anything on topic to add or are you planning to just spam this thread with petty squabbling until it dies?

“My estimate is 40% cyclists without lights on dark rural local roads…”

Any thoughts on the on-topic stuff you snipped from the quote…?

[bigothunter]

Disastrous said:

Quality content as ever.

Anything on topic to add or are you planning to just spam this thread with petty squabbling until it dies?

Groan ad nauseam which just proves my point...

Disastrous said:

“My estimate is 40% cyclists without lights on dark rural local roads…”

Any thoughts on the on-topic stuff you snipped from the quote…?

You have a lovely turn of phrase

Limited data because the evenings are still light. I estimated 60% illumination legal compliance from cyclists. Data so far shows just 25%.

Previously I posted incident of two youth riding without lights at 21:15 on rural roads in October 2021. It was dark. Subsequently a further two unilluminated cyclists were noticed riding on pavements during the hours of darkness. But in the interest of unbiased results, I have decided to ignore these cases from the survey.

Hope that makes you happy

[Disastrous]

bigothunter said:

Disastrous said:

Quality content as ever.

Anything on topic to add or are you planning to just spam this thread with petty squabbling until it dies?

Groan ad nauseam which just proves my point...

Disastrous said:

“My estimate is 40% cyclists without lights on dark rural local roads…”

Any thoughts on the on-topic stuff you snipped from the quote…?

You have a lovely turn of phrase

Limited data because the evenings are still light. I estimated 60% illumination legal compliance from cyclists. Data so far shows just 25%.

Previously I posted incident of two youth riding without lights at 21:15 on rural roads in October 2021. It was dark. Subsequently a further two unilluminated cyclists were noticed riding on pavements during the hours of darkness. But in the interest of unbiased results, I have decided to ignore these cases from the survey.

Hope that makes you happy

So, no then. No thoughts on the stuff you snipped…

Plus a load of irrelevant garbage and childish insults as per.

Waste of time. I’m sure you’ll want the last st smiley so crack on. I’ll come back when the convo has moved on.

[bigothunter]

Disastrous said:

So, no then. No thoughts on the stuff you snipped…

Plus a load of irrelevant garbage and childish insults as per.

Waste of time. I’m sure you’ll want the last st smiley so crack on. I’ll come back when the convo has moved on.

There's something wrong with you. Get help...

[oldagepensioner]

gazza285 said:

OP didn't ask anything, he was just here to whine about cyclists.

If you read my original post you will know that all i asked was for cyclists to use cycle paths when they are the safer option which i still maintain that they are for the most part and use lights at night as under certain conditions they become almost invisible.Its because of this and some of the downright dangerous riding that a small mostly young minority practice.As i said quite early on i used to be a cyclist myself so do understand how vulnerable they are which is why i try and give them a wide berth but i can only do that if i can see them hence the lights at night

[911hope]

oldagepensioner said:

gazza285 said:

OP didn't ask anything, he was just here to whine about cyclists.

If you read my original post you will know that all i asked was for cyclists to use cycle paths when they are the safer option which i still maintain that they are for the most part and use lights at night as under certain conditions they become almost invisible.Its because of this and some of the downright dangerous riding that a small mostly young minority practice.As i said quite early on i used to be a cyclist myself so do understand how vulnerable they are which is why i try and give them a wide berth but i can only do that if i can see them hence the lights at night

Need to think about how you draft your post, if you don't want to come across as moaning at all cyclists.

There is the distinct impression that you are referring to all cyclists with your criticisms, as you say things like "they should do this"

In writing this way, you brand them all as the target for your criticisms.

It is obvious that not all cyclist are without lights.

It is also obvious that many "off the road" cycle paths are actually quite dangerous in that driveways and side roads bisect them often, subjection the cyclist to regular stops or significant risk. They are also very bumpy, full of broken glass, rubbish etc.

Now it is true that many cyclists need to behave better, especially in urban settings. But certainly not the whole cohort.

[InitialDave]

oldagepensioner said:

If you read my original post you will know that all i asked was for cyclists to use cycle paths when they are the safer option which i still maintain that they are for the most part

You said

oldagepensioner said:

I do wish however that they would use a bit of common sense like using cycle paths when provided and i am not talking about the gutters at the edge of the road marked out with a single white line where all the crap gets thrown by other road users to puncture their tyres but the proper cycle paths even if they are shared with pedestrians.

Your assessment of the suitability of these cycle paths is the issue with your statement.

Cyclists do not have to use them because you think they're the better option. All you thinking they're the better option justifies is your own use of them.

[oldagepensioner]

911hope said:

oldagepensioner said:

gazza285 said:

OP didn't ask anything, he was just here to whine about cyclists.

If you read my original post you will know that all i asked was for cyclists to use cycle paths when they are the safer option which i still maintain that they are for the most part and use lights at night as under certain conditions they become almost invisible.Its because of this and some of the downright dangerous riding that a small mostly young minority practice.As i said quite early on i used to be a cyclist myself so do understand how vulnerable they are which is why i try and give them a wide berth but i can only do that if i can see them hence the lights at night

Need to think about how you draft your post, if you don't want to come across as moaning at all cyclists.

There is the distinct impression that you are referring to all cyclists with your criticisms, as you say things like "they should do this"

In writing this way, you brand them all as the target for your criticisms.

It is obvious that not all cyclist are without lights.

It is also obvious that many "off the road" cycle paths are actually quite dangerous in that driveways and side roads bisect them often, subjection the cyclist to regular stops or significant risk. They are also very bumpy, full of broken glass, rubbish etc.

Now it is true that many cyclists need to behave better, especially in urban settings. But certainly not the whole cohort.

Okay perhaps my first post was less than 100% clear but i think you may be beginning to understand my point.As far as cycle/footpaths are concerned certainly all of the of the off road ones i see in my area are about 8 feet wide(purely an estimate) often divided into foot and cycle
properly tarmaced and not intersected by driveways although they do cross road junctions but thats not that different to riding on the road.A lot of them however are of the strip at the side of the road IE the gutter at the side of the road i mentioned in my first post.Partly so i read
to follow EU guidelines on cycle paths and partly because these are on old roads that just were not built with cyclists in mind.These i agree are intersected by peoples drive ways and that is to my mind where cyclists are vulnerable.Oh and just thought i would mention i had another one last night about 10 pm riding on the wrong side of the road with no lights and only visible if he took his feet off the pedals to reveal the reflectors which is how i saw him.

[monthou]

oldagepensioner said:

Okay perhaps my first post was less than 100% clear but i think you may be beginning to understand my point.As far as cycle/footpaths are concerned certainly all of the of the off road ones i see in my area are about 8 feet wide(purely an estimate) often divided into foot and cycle
properly tarmaced and not intersected by driveways although they do cross road junctions but thats not that different to riding on the road.

It really is.