RE: The best used electric cars to buy right now
Discussion
Slowlygettingit said:
Serious omission - where is the polestar?
Had mine 6 months and 8000 miles.
Great car.
Also don’t understand all the ‘wow’ about the ioniq’s looks. It just looks like a big hatchback….
Isn't the Polestar 2 a big hatchback as well?Had mine 6 months and 8000 miles.
Great car.
Also don’t understand all the ‘wow’ about the ioniq’s looks. It just looks like a big hatchback….
Even if the Polestar was as good as the Hyundai, I'd still have the Ioniq 5 because it's built by people who can vote.
PH where income matters.
On top of being expensive for what they are compared to the average wage earner's car, once half the country has been forced to go EV, the energy prices will go up even more than they have already, and no normal person will be able to afford to charge them.
Edit, just to add, charging a small EV uses 50 times the amount of electricity as a fridge.
On top of being expensive for what they are compared to the average wage earner's car, once half the country has been forced to go EV, the energy prices will go up even more than they have already, and no normal person will be able to afford to charge them.
Edit, just to add, charging a small EV uses 50 times the amount of electricity as a fridge.
Nik Gnashers said:
Edit, just to add, charging a small EV uses 50 times the amount of electricity as a fridge.
Why post something like this, it's so obviously made up.A fridge uses between 200-400 kWh per year, lets say 300 kWh.
Multiply that by 50, you get 15,000 kWh.
An average EV can travel around 3 miles per kWh.
That gives 45,000 miles. Per year.
When the average mileage in the UK is under 8000...
Demhcs said:
JonnyVTEC said:
Demhcs said:
Cayman 
If you wanted to carry more than 2 people it could be viewed as a upgrade then If you drove it 'properly' I'd be amazed if you got near 300 miles even with that fairly large fuel tank.
I always liked the look of the E pace and was excited to finally have a go in one. I was disappointed with the crashy ride and cheap enough plastics inside. I also dislike the seating position in the rear, the distance from floor to seat height is quite short which leaves you with your knees in the air and all your weight going through your arse. I know this is because of the batteries under the floor. I really wanted to like this car but I couldn't.
bennytheball said:
Slowlygettingit said:
Serious omission - where is the polestar?
Had mine 6 months and 8000 miles.
Great car.
Also don’t understand all the ‘wow’ about the ioniq’s looks. It just looks like a big hatchback….
Isn't the Polestar 2 a big hatchback as well?Had mine 6 months and 8000 miles.
Great car.
Also don’t understand all the ‘wow’ about the ioniq’s looks. It just looks like a big hatchback….
Even if the Polestar was as good as the Hyundai, I'd still have the Ioniq 5 because it's built by people who can vote.
Even the Kona is sort of appealing
cognac1979 said:
I always liked the look of the E pace and was excited to finally have a go in one. I was disappointed with the crashy ride and cheap enough plastics inside. I also dislike the seating position in the rear, the distance from floor to seat height is quite short which leaves you with your knees in the air and all your weight going through your arse. I know this is because of the batteries under the floor. I really wanted to like this car but I couldn't.
The E-Pace isn’t an electric car?Nik Gnashers said:
PH where income matters.
On top of being expensive for what they are compared to the average wage earner's car, once half the country has been forced to go EV, the energy prices will go up even more than they have already, and no normal person will be able to afford to charge them.
Edit, just to add, charging a small EV uses 50 times the amount of electricity as a fridge.
Comparing power consumption of a fridge to a car..On top of being expensive for what they are compared to the average wage earner's car, once half the country has been forced to go EV, the energy prices will go up even more than they have already, and no normal person will be able to afford to charge them.
Edit, just to add, charging a small EV uses 50 times the amount of electricity as a fridge.
For real?
cognac1979 said:
I always liked the look of the E pace and was excited to finally have a go in one. I was disappointed with the crashy ride and cheap enough plastics inside. I also dislike the seating position in the rear, the distance from floor to seat height is quite short which leaves you with your knees in the air and all your weight going through your arse. I know this is because of the batteries under the floor. I really wanted to like this car but I couldn't.
Assuming you meant I-Pace, this is one of the compromise points for EV packaging. The combination of underfloor battery and aerodynamic tapering roofline narrows the vertical space for the rear passengers.
I don't think its going to get better anytime soon either as we are seeing more and more tapering of the roofline to meet drag coefficient targets.
Boot space is another obvious compromise, the official volume of the boot in Ioniq 6 is conspicuous in its absence, or at least it was the last time I checked.
The spinner of plates said:
Nik Gnashers said:
PH where income matters.
On top of being expensive for what they are compared to the average wage earner's car, once half the country has been forced to go EV, the energy prices will go up even more than they have already, and no normal person will be able to afford to charge them.
Edit, just to add, charging a small EV uses 50 times the amount of electricity as a fridge.
Comparing power consumption of a fridge to a car..On top of being expensive for what they are compared to the average wage earner's car, once half the country has been forced to go EV, the energy prices will go up even more than they have already, and no normal person will be able to afford to charge them.
Edit, just to add, charging a small EV uses 50 times the amount of electricity as a fridge.
For real?
PHuzzy said:
Demhcs said:
JonnyVTEC said:
Demhcs said:
Cayman
If you wanted to carry more than 2 people it could be viewed as a upgrade then If you drove it 'properly' I'd be amazed if you got near 300 miles even with that fairly large fuel tank.
. Neither of those activities are particularly appealing with an EV. I was reading on another forum about car parks
It seems that lots of car parks all over the country actually have weight limits .. usually 1.5 tonnes
The chap who was reporting it stated that every car park in his area has a weight limit and his EV was therefore unable to enter any of the car parks as it contravenes the restrictions
Anyway here’s a random example
https://www.scarborough.gov.uk/home/parking/car-pa...
Interesting I thought
It seems that lots of car parks all over the country actually have weight limits .. usually 1.5 tonnes
The chap who was reporting it stated that every car park in his area has a weight limit and his EV was therefore unable to enter any of the car parks as it contravenes the restrictions
Anyway here’s a random example
https://www.scarborough.gov.uk/home/parking/car-pa...
Interesting I thought
Earthdweller said:
I was reading on another forum about car parks
It seems that lots of car parks all over the country actually have weight limits .. usually 1.5 tonnes
The chap who was reporting it stated that every car park in his area has a weight limit and his EV was therefore unable to enter any of the car parks as it contravenes the restrictions
Anyway here’s a random example
https://www.scarborough.gov.uk/home/parking/car-pa...
Interesting I thought
So you wouldn’t even be able to park a Golf R estate in one either…It seems that lots of car parks all over the country actually have weight limits .. usually 1.5 tonnes
The chap who was reporting it stated that every car park in his area has a weight limit and his EV was therefore unable to enter any of the car parks as it contravenes the restrictions
Anyway here’s a random example
https://www.scarborough.gov.uk/home/parking/car-pa...
Interesting I thought
Well, we own 2 cars on this list, the i3 and a model 3 dual motor.
Both are brilliant in their own way. The model 3 is hilariously fast as standard and if required, can be made even faster through the app and a bit of wallet opening. Sub 4 second 0-60 in a innocent looking white car on 18 inch wheels, it’s the ultimate sleeper…
But if the music stopped playing and I was left with just one car, the i3 would do me fine. It’s a blast to drive, quick in it own way and you could fill a big glossy book full of its design details. It pointed the way that EV should be developed but unfortunately looks like it’s all about heavy SUV’s rather than Carbon construction and lightweight EV’s
Both are brilliant in their own way. The model 3 is hilariously fast as standard and if required, can be made even faster through the app and a bit of wallet opening. Sub 4 second 0-60 in a innocent looking white car on 18 inch wheels, it’s the ultimate sleeper…
But if the music stopped playing and I was left with just one car, the i3 would do me fine. It’s a blast to drive, quick in it own way and you could fill a big glossy book full of its design details. It pointed the way that EV should be developed but unfortunately looks like it’s all about heavy SUV’s rather than Carbon construction and lightweight EV’s
The i3 is nailed on a future classic. Fantastic cars.
The problem with most of the newer EVs (aside from the weight) is how 'smart' and connected they are. As software on wheels, what happens when they become unsupported like an old phone? I'm not worried about EVs, they make great daily drivers and the infrastructure will get there, but they are turning into massively complicated tech that will be out of date and unsupported in 10 years.
The problem with most of the newer EVs (aside from the weight) is how 'smart' and connected they are. As software on wheels, what happens when they become unsupported like an old phone? I'm not worried about EVs, they make great daily drivers and the infrastructure will get there, but they are turning into massively complicated tech that will be out of date and unsupported in 10 years.
Can someone explain why batteries are not standardized commodities, more or less?
I would have expected pre-charged batteries being available at "gas" stations and the process to get back on the road quicker than filling up a tank with fuel whether a consumer or a specialist was in charge of the exchange. Take a battery out, put in a charged one.
I can't imagine ever changing to an electric vehicle so long as it takes more time to recharge than refuel.
I would have expected pre-charged batteries being available at "gas" stations and the process to get back on the road quicker than filling up a tank with fuel whether a consumer or a specialist was in charge of the exchange. Take a battery out, put in a charged one.
I can't imagine ever changing to an electric vehicle so long as it takes more time to recharge than refuel.
mikEsprit said:
Can someone explain why batteries are not standardized commodities, more or less?
I would have expected pre-charged batteries being available at "gas" stations and the process to get back on the road quicker than filling up a tank with fuel whether a consumer or a specialist was in charge of the exchange. Take a battery out, put in a charged one.
I can't imagine ever changing to an electric vehicle so long as it takes more time to recharge than refuel.
Would you fancy removing half a tonne of battery pack from underneath your car? I would have expected pre-charged batteries being available at "gas" stations and the process to get back on the road quicker than filling up a tank with fuel whether a consumer or a specialist was in charge of the exchange. Take a battery out, put in a charged one.
I can't imagine ever changing to an electric vehicle so long as it takes more time to recharge than refuel.
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