Best, or just sweetest 4 cylinder engines?

Best, or just sweetest 4 cylinder engines?

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legless

1,695 posts

141 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Deranged Rover said:
The 2.3 16v four pot in my old Ford Scorpio was surprisingly sweet and very smooth, I’m guessing thanks to its balancer shafts. I came to the car having owned a straight six and a V6 and never found it hideously lacking in refinement compared to either.
My dad had a couple of these. It revved like a 6-cyl, with a smoothness all the way through the rev range. Not particularly powerful, but it suited the car well. It's difficult to believe that it was based on the gruff 1989 2.0 DOHC from the Sierra/Granada. I since discovered the the transformation into the 2.3 was a Cosworth Engineering project.

A few people have mentioned the K-series. Even the lowly 1.4 in a 1997 Rover 400 I had revved so willingly and sweetly that it remains the only car I've ever had where I kept accidentally hitting the rev limiter - it would still be pulling harder and harder right up until it reaches the max revs.


healeyneil

299 posts

148 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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How about the ecotec fitted in the new Mustangs? Not a V8 obviously, but that power and torque from a four banger shouldn’t be sniffed at

Mr Squarekins

1,047 posts

63 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Biggy Stardust said:
Mr Squarekins said:
My s1000rr has quite a nice 4 pot.
My Blackbird is smoother.
Quite possibly. Honda make great engines.Loved my Fireblade 4 pot.

Time, technology and variable cam tech gives my bmw 200 bhp though.

beer


Mineral1

59 posts

51 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Quite like my 1.4tsi, far from the best or sweetest but surprisingly good

rjfp1962

7,771 posts

74 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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I'm quite happy with my MX-5ND and it's revised 2 litre engine.. smile

Draxindustries1

1,657 posts

24 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Modified slightly so doesn't really count but

My Cortina Mk2 1500GT, lightened balanced and blue printed bottom end, Cosworth A2 cam roller rockers, Vulcan big valve head, Accralite pistons and twin 45 dcoe webers. Revs to 7700rpm . Bit of a lumpy idle but is as smooth as once the the carbs are opened up fully which is most of the time...

Gilhooligan

2,214 posts

145 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Recently bought a Clio 182. Was surprised how quick it felt. I’m used to turbo engines and was impressed at the the torque the F4R engine has too. Then when many engines are running out of steam the Clio just screams all the way to 7k rpm and beyond.

bangerhoarder

526 posts

69 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Fiesta didn’t have the back top Zetec, it had the Sigma which has rightly been mentioned. While the 1.7 is lovely, the rally versions used the 1.6 which went up to very decent NA outputs (not great output in any road version though).

The A Series is an interesting shout. Clever, compact, lots of issues with breathing and getting power and revs from them, but the fact that the aftermarket has gone as far as twin overhead cams, there’ve been factory and aftermarket turbo versions, transverse and longitudinal fitments, 803cc to 1380 and now beyond, 50 year lifespan, and snarling rortiness with the right exhaust. Not a revver, but still endearing.

230TE

2,506 posts

187 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Ford Pinto OHC? The "totally rubbish 4 cylinder engines that sold millions anyway" thread is just begging to be started here. I had a bit to do with these engines in years gone by and hated everything about them from fan to flywheel. Even the spark plugs were awful (taper seats). The only thing I can say in their favour is that Ford's next offering, the CVH engine, was even worse.

Kent crossflow OTOH was a sweetie, although kept in production (as the Valencia) long after it should have been given a dignified funeral. I had a couple of very doggy Mk2 Escorts which survived my teenage Hannu Mikkola fantasies without blowing up.

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69 posts

22 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Driveeasy said:
Honda MC22 with 20,000 rpm redline. A friend owned one years ago and it was the best thing I’ve ever heard.
I had a CBR250RR myself and the real surprise was that it would pull form 35 mph in top gear.

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Original Poster:

69 posts

22 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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healeyneil said:
How about the ecotec fitted in the new Mustangs? Not a V8 obviously, but that power and torque from a four banger shouldn’t be sniffed at
It's a de-tuned Focus RS engine. I believe.

Gary C

12,500 posts

180 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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My absolute favourite 4 cylinder engine was the 4AGE engine.

Twin cam with inverted bucket & shim and belt drive. Basically a Yamaha interpretation of the Ford competition BDA engine.

Thrived on revs and revs are the best tonic when driving spiritedly.

A Mk1 MR2 was a little heavy for it in reality but still, it was a fantastic combination.

Warren Obhead

37 posts

22 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Gti-6 and Williams/valver clio engines.

Gti-6 had the power, but the renault engines smelt better.

sawman

4,920 posts

231 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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Gary C said:
My absolute favourite 4 cylinder engine was the 4AGE engine.

Twin cam with inverted bucket & shim and belt drive. Basically a Yamaha interpretation of the Ford competition BDA engine.

Thrived on revs and revs are the best tonic when driving spiritedly.

A Mk1 MR2 was a little heavy for it in reality but still, it was a fantastic combination.
Absolutely this^^^

GregK2

1,661 posts

147 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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4AGE is a good shout, amongst some really embarrassing suggestions ITT hehe

Gary C

12,500 posts

180 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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sawman said:
Gary C said:
My absolute favourite 4 cylinder engine was the 4AGE engine.

Twin cam with inverted bucket & shim and belt drive. Basically a Yamaha interpretation of the Ford competition BDA engine.

Thrived on revs and revs are the best tonic when driving spiritedly.

A Mk1 MR2 was a little heavy for it in reality but still, it was a fantastic combination.
Absolutely this^^^
beer

Zarco

17,909 posts

210 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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healeyneil said:
How about the ecotec fitted in the new Mustangs? Not a V8 obviously, but that power and torque from a four banger shouldn’t be sniffed at
Nah, a Mustang without a V8 is just wrong.

Gad-Westy

14,580 posts

214 months

Saturday 6th August 2022
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The spinner of plates said:
Cold said:
The Rover K series 1.8 VVC is a whizzy little motor. Going further back into old school stuff, the Lotus Twin Cam is hard to beat for sheer enthusiasm.
Agreed, k series a wonderful engine.
Even more so with individual TBs.
The 1.4 130bhp version in the SS Caterhams is my favourite version. Works beautifully in a car that light. K series are great engines, I just find it hard to ignore that they’re fragile. The VHPD and R500 engines feel like race engines. All lumpy idles, screaming top end and regular rebuilds but Honda showed that you could get the best bits and have bombproof reliability. Amazing really.

Kinnellephant

3 posts

24 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Pretty biased since it's pretty much all I've driven but the M16A is a sweet engine.

biggbn

23,507 posts

221 months

Sunday 7th August 2022
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Zarco said:
healeyneil said:
How about the ecotec fitted in the new Mustangs? Not a V8 obviously, but that power and torque from a four banger shouldn’t be sniffed at
Nah, a Mustang without a V8 is just wrong.
I'd be happy with the four pot!