RE: Porsche Taycan Turbo S sets new 'ring EV record

RE: Porsche Taycan Turbo S sets new 'ring EV record

Wednesday 10th August 2022

Porsche Taycan Turbo S sets new 'ring EV record

7:33 means the electric Porsche edges ahead of the 1,000hp Tesla Model S Plaid


We’re all used to a little bit of circuit optimisation to make track-focused combustion cars that bit faster - now it’s happening for EVs, too. Equipped with a new performance kit - more on which in a sec - a Porsche Taycan Turbo S has set a new, official Nurburgring lap record for electric cars, at 7:33.35.

Which is rapid for any kind of vehicle, leave alone an electric four-door saloon that weighs more than two tonnes. It’s notable as well as it means the 625hp Taycan (the 761hp figure you often see is a launch overboost) has lapped faster than the 1,020hp Model S Plaid, which previously held the record with a 7:35.579. Furthermore, it puts the Taycan less than four seconds from the Panamera Turbo S, which set a 7:29.81 to be the old record holding incumbent for executive cars. Until it was beaten by AMG.

As with the V8 four-door, Lars Kern was driving this lap. “In the past, only thoroughbred super sports cars got into the 7:33 range,” he said. “With the new performance kit I was able to push even harder, and the car was even more precise and agile to boot.” Ah yes, this performance kit. Porsche says this includes 21-inch RS Spyder-style wheels (as found on everything from 911s to Macans) along with Pirelli P Zero Corsas that are road legal but have a compound ‘similar to that of racing tyres’ - which will surely have been worth a few seconds a lap. And won’t come cheap when they inevitably need replacing far sooner than hoped. The Turbo S used at the Nurburgring was also equipped with an update to the Porsche 4D Chassis Control, designed to make the most of the stickier tyre. (It also got a cage and a racing seat, though Porsche maintains it weighed the same as a standard car.)

Which is the good news - watch the video for evidence of some truly staggering corner speeds. On the Nordschleife’s long, flat out sections, the Taycan can’t compete with the Panamera - see peak speeds of 268kph against 297kph - only to scythe through every been and get within a few seconds. The bad news is that you can’t buy a Taycan Turbo S with the performance kit, for now at least. It’s a Porsche Tequipment option that’s only being offered to German customers, carried out post-registration at Zuffenhausen. Talk of retrofitting at least means existing owners (and not just new ones) might be able to upgrade their Taycan to record breaking spec.

“We’re delighted that the Nürburgring record for electric cars is back in Porsche hands,” said Kevin Giek, Porsche’s Vice President of the Taycan model line. “This lap time not only shows how much potential lies in our new performance kit, but also confirms once again the sports car genes of the Taycan.” Tesla, over to you…


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pycraft

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778 posts

184 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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That'll ps off Elon. So that's good.

Hairymonster

1,428 posts

105 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Yawn...

smilo996

2,791 posts

170 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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turns out the jelly mould from former paypal owner is a bit crap. Best leave it to car makers to make......cars.

Debaser

5,848 posts

261 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Looks grippy and stable. Well done Porsche!

Twinair

662 posts

142 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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So 2 of the hottest EV’s, slower than my less powerful (and way cheaper) M4 Comp Xdrive… brum brum… x

bobo79

296 posts

149 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Interesting to see what the EV Cayman replacement, particularly the GT4RS equivalent, can do around there. I imagine it will be utterly nuts.

J4CKO

41,560 posts

200 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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smilo996 said:
turns out the jelly mould from former paypal owner is a bit crap. Best leave it to car makers to make......cars.
I am no Tesla fanboy but one Porsche going round a track a bit quicker doesn't render all Tesla products null and void.

Car makers are now making things like the Taycan, mainly because of Tesla coming in and disrupting the market place, Tesla went from not being a car company to allegedly the most valuable one on the planet, not bad going, credit where its due.

untakenname

4,969 posts

192 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Why is it filmed on a Potato and have Porsche been hiding the record from Tesla the past six months as it looks from the trees that it was filmed in the winter?

V8 FOU

2,974 posts

147 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Forgetting the Porsche vs Tesla crap.... that is one hell of an impressive lap. The applicaion of throttle particularly impresses. and 167mph flat out!!

TyrannosauRoss Lex

35,080 posts

212 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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400bhp less and still faster, goes to show that Porsche know how to make a car go round corners a lot better than Tesla!

RacerMike

4,205 posts

211 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Benchmarked a 4S last week at work. Genuinely so impressive, and it's one of the few EVs you drive and forget it's an EV within 10mins. Has character, steers beautifully, has incredible performance and feels really nicely resolved. Made me quite excited about the EV Cayman actually!

Do love that they've allowed Tesla to have the record for a bit and then basically gone and beaten the time with a car that was fundamentally already in production and on sale when Tesla did their record lap before. Very well played from Porsche IMO...they didn't rush out and beat the time. They just casually released it several months later after Tesla had had their fun thinking they'd pulled a blinder....

Limpet

6,310 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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J4CKO said:
Car makers are now making things like the Taycan, mainly because of Tesla coming in and disrupting the market place
Precisely. The only reason any of the established car manufacturers give a stuff about electric cars now is because Tesla showed they could be made fast, desirable and interesting, and that people would pay a premium accordingly.

smithyithy

7,246 posts

118 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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TyrannosauRoss Lex said:
400bhp less and still faster, goes to show that Porsche know how to make a car go round corners a lot better than Tesla!
Although I'm a big Porsche fan and don't particularly like Tesla...

The Taycan was on P Zero Corsa, whereas the Tesla Plaid was apparently on Pilot Sport 4S...

RacerMike

4,205 posts

211 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Limpet said:
J4CKO said:
Car makers are now making things like the Taycan, mainly because of Tesla coming in and disrupting the market place
Precisely. The only reason any of the established car manufacturers give a stuff about electric cars now is because Tesla showed they could be made fast, desirable and interesting, and that people would pay a premium accordingly.
Very true. Do wonder what will happen with Tesla though. Can't honestly believe the Roadster 2 is ever going to make it to production now (it'll be miles out of date if it appears in it's alleged spec) and the CyberTruck is much delayed/arguably somewhat redundant next to things like the Rivian RT1 and Ford Lightning. That leaves the S, 3, X and Y, and the S is long overdue a complete overhaul/redesign (I know it has a new interior but it's still basically the same car it was 10 years ago). With new companies like Lucid doing the same thing better now, is Elon actually going to spend the money making a viable long term plan, or is he going to just offload it all on someone? Genuinely interested to see what happens.

cookie1600

2,115 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Twinair said:
So 2 of the hottest EV’s, slower than my less powerful (and way cheaper) M4 Comp Xdrive… brum brum… x
And I'm guessing you could drive away from the circuit for some considerable miles on what was left in the tank afterwards, rather than having to fill it up immediately with 'juice' again?

D4rez

1,383 posts

56 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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cookie1600 said:
Twinair said:
So 2 of the hottest EV’s, slower than my less powerful (and way cheaper) M4 Comp Xdrive… brum brum… x
And I'm guessing you could drive away from the circuit for some considerable miles on what was left in the tank afterwards, rather than having to fill it up immediately with 'juice' again?
Sure but what are you going to be allowed to buy in a few years time. It’s good to start the development of EVs that can do the track stuff. Yes this is a big sedan but it shows a direction of travel

sxmwht

1,562 posts

59 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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Limpet said:
Precisely. The only reason any of the established car manufacturers give a stuff about electric cars now is because Tesla showed they could be made fast, desirable and interesting, and that people would pay a premium accordingly.
I must have missed the Tesla that was desirable and interesting. Got a link?

cookie1600

2,115 posts

161 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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D4rez said:
Yes this is a big sedan but it shows a direction of travel
For me the direction of travel is going to be 450/500 miles from where I start, without adding something for propulsion please. 167mph+ and 0-60 in a nanosecond is great, but won't be appreciated around the M25 or elsewhere in the UK.

LucyP

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59 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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And how much battery range was left afterwards? And did the battery have to be specially cooled/heated/conditioned first?

These 'Ring lap records were pointless with ICE cars, and they are even more pointless with an EV. Has anyone ever been overtaken by an EV? Has anyone ever seen an EV on the motorway not in lane 1, following the trucks, saving battery range?


greggy50

6,168 posts

191 months

Wednesday 10th August 2022
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LucyP said:
And how much battery range was left afterwards? And did the battery have to be specially cooled/heated/conditioned first?

These 'Ring lap records were pointless with ICE cars, and they are even more pointless with an EV. Has anyone ever been overtaken by an EV? Has anyone ever seen an EV on the motorway not in lane 1, following the trucks, saving battery range?
Its very rare I get overtaken in my EV on the motorway to be honest...

I also doubt it had to be pre-conditioned they are laps of a Polestar 2 running at full speed around the ring with no issues and the Taycan is far more of a sports car (so to speak...)

If you do a flat our lap of the ring in a supercar it probably uses nearly a quarter a tank of fuel I would assume as well!