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Cloudy147 said:
Cold said:
If less is more, think how much more more would be.
If less is more, shouldn’t the phrase be “ If less is more, think how much more less more would be.” ?
Edited by Wills2 on Monday 15th August 00:24
Less is very much more.
Less is why I've been favoring a rattly eighteen hundred quid convertible and an even more rattly diesel I can squeeze 70MPG out of without too much effort over a V8 Luxobarge that's been nowhere this year and sits gathering dust and cobwebs in the garage.
Both are way less spendy and neither have zero s
ts given which means that less is actually an unqualified win-win.
Less is why I've been favoring a rattly eighteen hundred quid convertible and an even more rattly diesel I can squeeze 70MPG out of without too much effort over a V8 Luxobarge that's been nowhere this year and sits gathering dust and cobwebs in the garage.
Both are way less spendy and neither have zero s
ts given which means that less is actually an unqualified win-win. have only had quick cars since 2020 (cupra 4drive and now an m140i). Currently enjoying the power, but have to be nowhere near the limit on the 140 as I don't have the skill (or the disregard for others) to handle it on a public road. Had an old 2 litre 207 estate before, with ditch finder tyres - used to love thrashing that thing about. The 140 is a keeper (the cupra before was a lease), but the thought of something sheddy that I can push to its limit really appeals again.
Jaguar steve said:
Less is very much more.
Less is why I've been favoring a rattly eighteen hundred quid convertible and an even more rattly diesel I can squeeze 70MPG out of without too much effort over a V8 Luxobarge that's been nowhere this year and sits gathering dust and cobwebs in the garage.
Both are way less spendy and neither have zero sts given which means that less is actually an unqualified win-win.
Plenty of people aren't remotely concerned about running costs and change cars on a whim. Should these people also switch to old bangers and what benefit would they gain?Less is why I've been favoring a rattly eighteen hundred quid convertible and an even more rattly diesel I can squeeze 70MPG out of without too much effort over a V8 Luxobarge that's been nowhere this year and sits gathering dust and cobwebs in the garage.
Both are way less spendy and neither have zero s
ts given which means that less is actually an unqualified win-win. I've got two cars for fun: one big and fast, one small and merely nippy.
Took the small and nippy one out yesterday am and did some lanes. Where this PH hivemind idea that small and nippy is more fun falls down for me is when you are stuck behind the inevitable slow person with 0% chance of passing.
Suddenly the fact that the big quick car has more sense of occasion, and is a nicer place to be sat when going quickly, isn't an option becomes glaringly apparent.
To me, anyway.
Took the small and nippy one out yesterday am and did some lanes. Where this PH hivemind idea that small and nippy is more fun falls down for me is when you are stuck behind the inevitable slow person with 0% chance of passing.
Suddenly the fact that the big quick car has more sense of occasion, and is a nicer place to be sat when going quickly, isn't an option becomes glaringly apparent.
To me, anyway.
Johnnytheboy said:
I've got two cars for fun: one big and fast, one small and merely nippy.
Took the small and nippy one out yesterday am and did some lanes. Where this PH hivemind idea that small and nippy is more fun falls down for me is when you are stuck behind the inevitable slow person with 0% chance of passing.
Suddenly the fact that the big quick car has more sense of occasion, and is a nicer place to be sat when going quickly, isn't an option becomes glaringly apparent.
To me, anyway.
Have to agree with this 100%Took the small and nippy one out yesterday am and did some lanes. Where this PH hivemind idea that small and nippy is more fun falls down for me is when you are stuck behind the inevitable slow person with 0% chance of passing.
Suddenly the fact that the big quick car has more sense of occasion, and is a nicer place to be sat when going quickly, isn't an option becomes glaringly apparent.
To me, anyway.
Two cars here, a Smart that's great for nipping about and town runs, other car is a Vantage V12S and even when stuck in traffic it's a much nicer place to be sat.
I've always tended to buy cars for what they are as opposed to how fast they are as, with cameras everywhere, using the speed of a car is becoming a rare opportunity. Yet when the more powerful car is a wonderful place to be sat in then speed becomes less relevant.
Jaguar steve said:
Less is very much more.
Less is why I've been favoring a rattly eighteen hundred quid convertible and an even more rattly diesel I can squeeze 70MPG out of without too much effort over a V8 Luxobarge that's been nowhere this year and sits gathering dust and cobwebs in the garage.
Both are way less spendy and neither have zero sts given which means that less is actually an unqualified win-win.
This sounds like a life I don’t wish to live. You don’t have to drive round in a sLess is why I've been favoring a rattly eighteen hundred quid convertible and an even more rattly diesel I can squeeze 70MPG out of without too much effort over a V8 Luxobarge that's been nowhere this year and sits gathering dust and cobwebs in the garage.
Both are way less spendy and neither have zero s
ts given which means that less is actually an unqualified win-win. t box to not worry about it. I long ago realised you can’t help other peoples actions when you park your cars in public so why worry about it?My currently immaculate car which I try to keep that way has a lovely large dent in the door from a van reversing into it and driving off, do I want it there? Obviously not, does it bother me to the degree of giving up on my hobbies and life to drive a s
tbox? Not at all! It’s a car made of metal that can be fixed, I use mine properly and on track so it’s going to get some damage it’s what I expect and accept. Small cars with modest power and grip are more fun to rag about in my book. They are also easy to place and manoeuvre on narrower roads.
But as a I get older I appreciate the ease and comfort of bigger more powerful cars. In my 20s I would drive anything anywhere, no matter how slow and uncomfortable it was, or how long the trip.
Now if it's for more than an hour or so I want a bit of cossetting!
But as a I get older I appreciate the ease and comfort of bigger more powerful cars. In my 20s I would drive anything anywhere, no matter how slow and uncomfortable it was, or how long the trip.
Now if it's for more than an hour or so I want a bit of cossetting!
anonymous said:
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What a load of cobblers. It's just a fact neither of us are sufficiently vain or proud of ourselves to worry about what we drive anymore.That position provides an additional bonus in that we're comfortably under the radar of the type of people sufficiently concerned with other peoples car choices to refer to some of them as s
tboxes, presumably because it's vitally important for anybody reading their comments to understand they drive something far superior to such cars themselves. 
Currently have a 3.5L V6 Hybrid and shudder to think of driving anything slower/rougher. I rarely go above the speed limit on the commute but its nice to know it's there. When I have to borrow a 118d for work and put my foot down to get round a truck its so breathless. Next car realistically will be something with Prius-like performance if petrol price trend keeps going as it is.
Jaguar steve said:
What a load of cobblers. It's just a fact neither of us are sufficiently vain or proud of ourselves to worry about what we drive anymore.
That position provides an additional bonus in that we're comfortably under the radar of the type of people sufficiently concerned with other peoples car choices to refer to some of them as stboxes, presumably because it's vitally important for anybody reading their comments to understand they drive something far superior to such cars themselves.
How can you claim to be 'under the radar' when you post pictures of a boat that you own on this website?That position provides an additional bonus in that we're comfortably under the radar of the type of people sufficiently concerned with other peoples car choices to refer to some of them as s
tboxes, presumably because it's vitally important for anybody reading their comments to understand they drive something far superior to such cars themselves. Leon R said:
How can you claim to be 'under the radar' when you post pictures of a boat that you own on this website?
I didn't though. What I posted was one close up photograph of a bottle of supermarket wine and some seafood on a table on my boat which was entirely in context of the thread I posted it on. For the avoidance of the slightest doubt on that and to assist you with winding your neck back in here it is again.
Apart from the pushpit and backstay there's actually nothing whatsoever to be to seen of the boat itself at all - which is exactly what I intended.
My £1000 ugly Merc is certainly good fun down country lanes. Also, I don't mind the shrubbery rubbing against the bodywork. Might improve the looks.
I do fancy another smaller hatchback, though. Maybe a MINI Cooper (non-S as they're cheaper).
I do fancy another smaller hatchback, though. Maybe a MINI Cooper (non-S as they're cheaper).
Edited by Hoofy on Monday 15th August 15:41
rotaryjam said:
After many years of motoring and owning some quick and interesting cars, I'm starting to feel like the slower, more boring cars are actually more enjoyable for the every day urban driver!?
Driving my wife's Fiat 500 and thrashing it to within an inch of its life and flinging it around corners at maximum velocity I find more enjoyable than cars rhat have 4x the power because you simply can't use any of it and if you did you'd either be in someone's front drive or way over the speed limit.
I appreciate if you are blessed with a range of country roads nearby then it may well be different.
Am I alone?
I suspect most people confuse other things....Driving my wife's Fiat 500 and thrashing it to within an inch of its life and flinging it around corners at maximum velocity I find more enjoyable than cars rhat have 4x the power because you simply can't use any of it and if you did you'd either be in someone's front drive or way over the speed limit.
I appreciate if you are blessed with a range of country roads nearby then it may well be different.
Am I alone?
Firstly. Driving something different from what you normally drive is an 'event'. It has to be truly awful to not enjoy the change of scene at some level.
Secondly, it would wear thin very quickly. An occasional blast is one thing. But having such a car as your only car will likely remove any of the enjoyment of it being different to what you normally drive. In the case of the 500, it is an ok'ish slightly quirky city car. With terrible steering and somewhat inert handling. But ultimately it somewhat of a dull shopping cart with very little true personality or character beyond the visuals.
To prove this point, I know of nobody who actually completely gets rid of a performance car for something like a Fiat 500 (non Abarth) and if they did, I'm sure they'd still have access to or desire a performance car. Could put a poll up here and see, but I'd bet numbers would be tiny if at all.
Jaguar steve said:
What a load of cobblers. It's just a fact neither of us are sufficiently vain or proud of ourselves to worry about what we drive anymore.
At least you are honest enough to admit you once were sufficiently vain and proud of yourselves to worry about what you were driving.Which is probably why you assume that others are like you used to be. Fortunately, that's not necessarily the case.
Jaguar steve said:
That position provides an additional bonus in that we're comfortably under the radar of the type of people sufficiently concerned with other peoples car choices to refer to some of them as stboxes, presumably because it's vitally important for anybody reading their comments to understand they drive something far superior to such cars themselves.
The inferiority complex again Steve, how predictable. It says a lot about you that you think others look at you and your car to judge you (they don't give a stboxes, presumably because it's vitally important for anybody reading their comments to understand they drive something far superior to such cars themselves. t in reality). In fact it says that you haven't changed much. You've just changed camp from snob to reverse snob.As you know, plenty of people like non-sheds for the driving experience rather than show off. It still not a binary proposition, plenty of nuances and shades of grey.
Depends, cheap sheds / cars have their use, I hated throwing rubbish / skip run in my ML / FFRR as I ripped the headlining in the ML being careless.
Now I’ve got a £3k Discovery it doesn’t really matter.
Equally some cretin reversed into my Aston when I left it in town, not ideal, wouldn’t have mattered in the Discovery.
Multiple cars to suit the situation is the way forward, I wouldn’t want to do my 30k a year in a manual, petrol V8, but for an early morning blast I couldn’t think of anything worse than a 4 pot auto diesel.
Now I’ve got a £3k Discovery it doesn’t really matter.
Equally some cretin reversed into my Aston when I left it in town, not ideal, wouldn’t have mattered in the Discovery.
Multiple cars to suit the situation is the way forward, I wouldn’t want to do my 30k a year in a manual, petrol V8, but for an early morning blast I couldn’t think of anything worse than a 4 pot auto diesel.
Hoofy said:
I do fancy another smaller hatchback, though. Maybe a MINI Cooper (non-S as they're cheaper).
Been looking at one of these to replace a thirstyV8, though I think the 'S' would be a bit more fun and easier to ween me off a larger engine. The boot on the convertible doesn't look to be much use so manual hatchback it is.Gassing Station | General Gassing | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff