RE: The best used supercars to buy right now
Discussion
Jon_S_Rally said:
Aventador 700 said:
Oh the irony 
Where? I wasn't arguing, I was telling people to bore off 
I’m not looking for an argument btw but you seem quite annoyed at the fact that people like to discuss it, time and time again, i guess you have your own reasons as to why..
Shnozz said:
cerb4.5lee said:
I never ever thought that I'd be able to afford a Supercar(I've wanted a Lamborghini almost all my life), but according to this list I already have with the Cerbera! So I definitely can't grumble! 
The Clarkson video of all those years ago of a Cerbera destroying the supercars of the day cemented that car as an icon IMO. 
The performance/noise always put a smile on my face.
Jon_S_Rally said:
There's something quite amusing about a load of blokes on an internet forum arguing about what defines a supercar, given that most of them have probably never owned, and will never own, one.
Honestly, who cares? They're all interesting/nice cars. Get over it.
PH is a forum for people to come and discuss whatever subjects interest them about cars. The subject of what is and is not a supercar interests some people, and they wish to discuss it. If you don't like it there is no rule requiring you to partake.Honestly, who cares? They're all interesting/nice cars. Get over it.
I don't go onto baking forums and get uppity about people discussing which is the best free-standing mixer just because I don't think it matters.
How you define a supercar varies by person. I find it interesting hearing other people's views on that, and seeing why they come to a different conclusion from me. Personally I found this thread interesting, because while I agree with most on here that this list is only half supercars, I'm surprised about some of the reasoning behind exactly which cars are and are not.
Edited by murphyaj on Tuesday 16th August 16:14
TheMilkyBarKid said:
Harry Flashman said:
F20CN16 said:
Can a supercar have 4 seats/a back row of seats? The Gransport, Cerbera, 911 and GTR all do. I don’t think they qualify personally.
I agree. I own a Gransport, and its a GT car, really. Edited by F20CN16 on Sunday 14th August 07:58
Beautiful and a real event, for sure, but no supercar despite the supercar engine.
Hopefully the 4200 Gran Sport is all you say it is. I had a 3200 GT which was probably the worst handling car I've owned. Fine for driving down motorways but lethal in the wet and anything twisty. Would have been quicker in a Ford Mondeo. Also cost a fortune to service. Lovely looking car though.
I had forgotten about the XK220. What a gorgeous silhouette and aesthetically the stand out. Cannot get over the lack of reliability with TVRs, find Porsche boring, and all the gizmos on Maclarens, Ferraris and Lamborghinis the equivalent of disengaging the driver from the experience of driving. The car will look after you.
As a racer I think these are all posing cars. You can out drag virtually anything but it is the machine that does it, not you
I had forgotten about the XK220. What a gorgeous silhouette and aesthetically the stand out. Cannot get over the lack of reliability with TVRs, find Porsche boring, and all the gizmos on Maclarens, Ferraris and Lamborghinis the equivalent of disengaging the driver from the experience of driving. The car will look after you.
As a racer I think these are all posing cars. You can out drag virtually anything but it is the machine that does it, not you
Thought I'd try and capitalise on this, so I've put my Gransport up for sale in the classifieds. (I admit it, I have no shame.)
If anyone is interested, I've kept a thread updated on running a GS under reader's cars. Aside from some problems that the car had when I bought it from a dishonest dealer, it's pretty much been OK over the 3 years I've owned it so far.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
IMG_3844 by Chris, on Flickr
If anyone is interested, I've kept a thread updated on running a GS under reader's cars. Aside from some problems that the car had when I bought it from a dishonest dealer, it's pretty much been OK over the 3 years I've owned it so far.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
IMG_3844 by Chris, on FlickrEdited by Zombie on Tuesday 16th August 23:46
The supercar debate always makes me giggle.
To me a supercar has two seats. If it wasn't for that then the GTR and Cerb would probably tick all of the other boxes. The Maserati is a great value for money prospect, I actually really enjoyed mine - underrated car for what you can pick one up for, no it won't compare to the similar engined 430, yes it can sound just as good
My Cerberra only worked twice in the time I owned it (I bought it knowing of a few issues) But those two times excited me beyond belief owing to the fact that it had a vendetta against my will to carry on living.
The R35 is the one car I struggle to let go, there's something about an easily attainable 700bhp and keeping pace with much more exotic machines that just tickles me.
Funny thing is a lot of the reasons people use to dispel one car, are ignored when it comes to another.. "GTRs are boring" is usually spouted, normally by people who haven't driven one properly and at any real pace. "NSX's don't have a V8 and are too gutless" is another, but you only have to look at the construction and the competition at the time. A ferrari 348 made 300hp and a diablo was less dynamic. "R8s aren't supercars... just because.." But then go on to call a gallardo a baby supercar..
Have had a few 911s and again struggle to call them supercars - but I couldn't care less as they've offered up some of the most enjoyable motoring around. Have been around a few GT3s and GT2s and perhaps their humble origins dilute the impact of their exclusivity and prowess.
Money no object though I can't help but feel something like a Zonda would be my pick above an xj220. And I love the xj220..
To me a supercar has two seats. If it wasn't for that then the GTR and Cerb would probably tick all of the other boxes. The Maserati is a great value for money prospect, I actually really enjoyed mine - underrated car for what you can pick one up for, no it won't compare to the similar engined 430, yes it can sound just as good
My Cerberra only worked twice in the time I owned it (I bought it knowing of a few issues) But those two times excited me beyond belief owing to the fact that it had a vendetta against my will to carry on living.
The R35 is the one car I struggle to let go, there's something about an easily attainable 700bhp and keeping pace with much more exotic machines that just tickles me.
Funny thing is a lot of the reasons people use to dispel one car, are ignored when it comes to another.. "GTRs are boring" is usually spouted, normally by people who haven't driven one properly and at any real pace. "NSX's don't have a V8 and are too gutless" is another, but you only have to look at the construction and the competition at the time. A ferrari 348 made 300hp and a diablo was less dynamic. "R8s aren't supercars... just because.." But then go on to call a gallardo a baby supercar..
Have had a few 911s and again struggle to call them supercars - but I couldn't care less as they've offered up some of the most enjoyable motoring around. Have been around a few GT3s and GT2s and perhaps their humble origins dilute the impact of their exclusivity and prowess.
Money no object though I can't help but feel something like a Zonda would be my pick above an xj220. And I love the xj220..
Edited by up_shift on Wednesday 17th August 01:27
Edited by up_shift on Wednesday 17th August 01:34
murphyaj said:
PH is a forum for people to come and discuss whatever subjects interest them about cars. The subject of what is and is not a supercar interests some people, and they wish to discuss it. If you don't like it there is no rule requiring you to partake.
I don't go onto baking forums and get uppity about people discussing which is the best free-standing mixer just because I don't think it matters.
How you define a supercar varies by person. I find it interesting hearing other people's views on that, and seeing why they come to a different conclusion from me. Personally I found this thread interesting, because while I agree with most on here that this list is only half supercars, I'm surprised about some of the reasoning behind exactly which cars are and are not.
No rule? Well, that would be a first for PH I don't go onto baking forums and get uppity about people discussing which is the best free-standing mixer just because I don't think it matters.
How you define a supercar varies by person. I find it interesting hearing other people's views on that, and seeing why they come to a different conclusion from me. Personally I found this thread interesting, because while I agree with most on here that this list is only half supercars, I'm surprised about some of the reasoning behind exactly which cars are and are not.
Edited by murphyaj on Tuesday 16th August 16:14
If people want to argue about what makes a supercar, then good for them but, just as they're allowed to come on here and talk about it, I'm allowed to find it amusing/boring.
HTH.
blade7 said:
3yardy3 said:
paddy1970 said:
Lee Jones Jnr said:
Thank god that they didn’t include an R8 in the list, that always drives people wild
Everyone knows that the R8 is a supercar...it is now an undisputed fact on PHIt is all miles too subjective I reckon. To me a Lamborghini Aventador is a supercar, but the 911 GT2 definitely is not. The GT2 RS has supercar performance, but it isn't a supercar in my eyes though.
F20CN16 said:
Zombie said:
Thought I'd try and capitalise on this, so I've put my Gransport up for sale in the classifieds. (I admit it, I have no shame.)
If anyone is interested, I've kept a thread updated on running a GS under reader's cars. Aside from some problems that the car had when I bought it from a dishonest dealer, it's pretty much been OK over the 3 years I've owned it so far.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
IMG_3844 by Chris, on Flickr
I’ve followed your thread on and off for a while. That’s an impressive amount of work done by you and your dad there! A very nice car now.If anyone is interested, I've kept a thread updated on running a GS under reader's cars. Aside from some problems that the car had when I bought it from a dishonest dealer, it's pretty much been OK over the 3 years I've owned it so far.
https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
IMG_3844 by Chris, on FlickrEdited by Zombie on Tuesday 16th August 23:46
murphyaj said:
Jon_S_Rally said:
There's something quite amusing about a load of blokes on an internet forum arguing about what defines a supercar, given that most of them have probably never owned, and will never own, one.
Honestly, who cares? They're all interesting/nice cars. Get over it.
PH is a forum for people to come and discuss whatever subjects interest them about cars. The subject of what is and is not a supercar interests some people, and they wish to discuss it. If you don't like it there is no rule requiring you to partake.Honestly, who cares? They're all interesting/nice cars. Get over it.
I don't go onto baking forums and get uppity about people discussing which is the best free-standing mixer just because I don't think it matters.
How you define a supercar varies by person. I find it interesting hearing other people's views on that, and seeing why they come to a different conclusion from me. Personally I found this thread interesting, because while I agree with most on here that this list is only half supercars, I'm surprised about some of the reasoning behind exactly which cars are and are not.
Edited by murphyaj on Tuesday 16th August 16:14
The supercar thing always opens up a can of worms. I've currently had my 2.5 m12 for 15 years and when the right conditions present themselves it is a joy to drive.To say it needed a v8 is nonsense the sound of the forced ford v6 it sounds like it's been on a course of steroids and the wastegate chatter induction noise and the turbo noises add to the drama.Drove past a mum with her lad he shouts out Lamborghini lol well that was good enough for me and although not a supercar to a lot always seems to get a positive reaction out on the rd.
blade7 said:
The performance would be the most important thing for me. And although I love the looks of them, I wouldn't want the negative reaction or attention that comes with a Lambo/Zonda etc.
Absolute opposite, never in 100s of cars i’ve owned have i had a more positive reaction than the Lambo, better even than Astons, Maserati & even TVRs, the 720 & GTR pretty much get ignored, which suits me better tbh.Porsches & Ferraris are a different matter
maybe the Lambo attitude is a uk thing? & the type of drivers you get with these cars there?
Aventador 700 said:
blade7 said:
The performance would be the most important thing for me. And although I love the looks of them, I wouldn't want the negative reaction or attention that comes with a Lambo/Zonda etc.
Absolute opposite, never in 100s of cars i’ve owned have i had a more positive reaction than the Lambo, better even than Astons, Maserati & even TVRs, the 720 & GTR pretty much get ignored, which suits me better tbh.Porsches & Ferraris are a different matter
maybe the Lambo attitude is a uk thing? & the type of drivers you get with these cars there?
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