RE: The best used supercars to buy right now
Discussion
Leins said:
^^^ Love that Noble, been a fan of them since they first appeared
Same. I used to see a Red one quite regularly when I used to go out drinking years ago, and I'd be stood outside the pub just gawping at it! 
I also got chatting to the owner of one back in 2006 at USC at Santa Pod, and I asked him if he'd swap his Noble for my Cerbera...but he wouldn't because he liked it too much!
I still lust after a Noble so much for sure.
blade7 said:
A Cerb over a 997 turbo? And I'd pick the much cheaper Noble over an NSX, sure you could kid yourself the NSX was designed, hand built and raced by Senna himself. But that feeble engine wont save you from getting duffed up by hot hatches.
Not everyone is so occupied with what others think of them. I buy a car to enjoy, not for what others think of me. Dombilano said:
Nitrogen lighter than air?
Thought the reason was nitrogen being more stable and resistant to temperature changes when driving.
Lighter than bloody air.
Anyway, I'll take the maser please
Thanks for the correction here. Nitrogen's weight saving properties are... minimal, but it's a more stable gas when the temps rise. I've now reflected that in the copy. Cheers!Thought the reason was nitrogen being more stable and resistant to temperature changes when driving.
Lighter than bloody air.
Anyway, I'll take the maser please
jm8403 said:
hepy said:
All lovely cars - my reading of the supercar standard is that heads turn - anyone of these cars would do that.
Really? People dont really care about an old maserti or a GTR in my view.Anyway, there's always the option of suggesting an alternative list. A genuine supercar in less than 25K is a tough ask.
SFTWend said:
If definition of a supercar includes very fast, demanding to drive, bit fragile and makes hairs on your neck stand on end, then the Cerb qualifies.
Exactly this, noisy, smelly and a right pain in the backside when things go wrong but so special on those occasions when it’s running well and a beautiful road opens up on a sunny day.Despite other comments on here I’ve always found wheeler era TVR’s to get ridiculous amounts of attention, you either get people who know what they are and love it because they are so rare or people who’ve never seen one before and think they’re absolutely incredible in my experience.
EggsBenedict said:
I do.
Anyway, there's always the option of suggesting an alternative list. A genuine supercar in less than 25K is a tough ask.
Yeah, I mean they're special and all, different, petrol heads cars but if I bought one I wouldn't be thinking: 'yay, I now have a supercar'.Anyway, there's always the option of suggesting an alternative list. A genuine supercar in less than 25K is a tough ask.
Maserati = GT Car
TVR = Old school sports car
Nissan GTR = Sports Car
Noble = Road going track car (Sports Car)
Honda NSX = Supercar
Lamborghini Gallardo = Supercar
Porsche 911 = Sports car (Although its so close)
McLaren = Supercar
Ferrari = Supercar
Jag = Supercar
Only x5 Supercar's from a supercar article, come on PistonHeads you're meant to be the experts. I know some are up for debate but roughly 50% of the forums are arguing over 50% of the cars
TVR = Old school sports car
Nissan GTR = Sports Car
Noble = Road going track car (Sports Car)
Honda NSX = Supercar
Lamborghini Gallardo = Supercar
Porsche 911 = Sports car (Although its so close)
McLaren = Supercar
Ferrari = Supercar
Jag = Supercar
Only x5 Supercar's from a supercar article, come on PistonHeads you're meant to be the experts. I know some are up for debate but roughly 50% of the forums are arguing over 50% of the cars
The 'supercar' debate is an interesting one... EVs have re-written the rules on performance, so its not about that. Its not about being mid- engined... The 250GTO is a supercar, to me, as is the Aston Martin Vulcan.
Im not even sure being 2 seat/door is either. In a way, the Lotus Carlton was a supercar... it was so outrageous that newspapers demanded it be banned!
Or how about a vintage Bentley 4 1/2 litre. Here is a car that competed at Le Mans, yet its a four cylinder, with modest performance in absolute terms. Drive one of them into a car meet or show though, and you will own the floor.
Im not even sure being 2 seat/door is either. In a way, the Lotus Carlton was a supercar... it was so outrageous that newspapers demanded it be banned!
Or how about a vintage Bentley 4 1/2 litre. Here is a car that competed at Le Mans, yet its a four cylinder, with modest performance in absolute terms. Drive one of them into a car meet or show though, and you will own the floor.
Robertb said:
The 'supercar' debate is an interesting one... EVs have re-written the rules on performance, so its not about that. Its not about being mid- engined... The 250GTO is a supercar, to me, as is the Aston Martin Vulcan.
Im not even sure being 2 seat/door is either. In a way, the Lotus Carlton was a supercar... it was so outrageous that newspapers demanded it be banned!
Or how about a vintage Bentley 4 1/2 litre. Here is a car that competed at Le Mans, yet its a four cylinder, with modest performance in absolute terms. Drive one of them into a car meet or show though, and you will own the floor.
Couldn't agree more. It isn't about performance at all, it is how it makes you feel, how rare they are, how they behave and whether lustful stares and thumbs up adorn your driving experience, the cars on that list that I'd say are actually respected in the right way for the right reasons wouldn't be everyones taste, but are as follows:Im not even sure being 2 seat/door is either. In a way, the Lotus Carlton was a supercar... it was so outrageous that newspapers demanded it be banned!
Or how about a vintage Bentley 4 1/2 litre. Here is a car that competed at Le Mans, yet its a four cylinder, with modest performance in absolute terms. Drive one of them into a car meet or show though, and you will own the floor.
Maserati - Huge no.
TVR - Huge yes, in fact it is probably the one that will excite you most until you're in the XJ220...
Noble - Wicked cars, look and go so well! If only they had a V8
GTR - Boring
911 - NEVER
Lambo - Yep, I'll agree, shame about all the cheap Audi bits mind you.
McLaren - A weapon, but not exclusive or special, also sounds like a washing machine on a spin cycle (yawn)
XJ220 - Huegly undervalued compared with its contemporaries and I would suggest a sound investment. Very rare and special.
NSX was/is a supercar, if you look at it in context - at launch, 1990. Even without the Senna thing.
Total bespoke platform, unique materials and construction - so far away from the other cars produced by the brand, and looked the part too. Japan not allowed to have supercars from that era? All other 90s supecar poster-cars are european - but JDM wise, the NSX at that time was clearly a step above. Sorry R32 Skyline, but - just is what it is.
Bellends who think its all about straight line speed won't get the "only" 276bhp, but the thing revs to 8k, has titanium rods, and sounds incredible (with the right exhaust, granted); besides - look at the say 0-200km/h time of other comparable early 90s cars out there (especially JDM cars); it's more than competitive - closely matched with the Testarossa for example, but just an objectively better car.
They never really developed it though, so as the 90s progress and there are only minor changes to power (3.2), then the facelift NA2s agree it may struggle to hold on to this entirely subjective "supercar" label, but when it was launched , it was definitely the real deal
(just never ever an auto tho... they appear almost popular in the UK as every car on sale seems to have an automatic. In reality they were less than a quarter of total cars sold here, just everyone with a manual ain't selling it!!)
Total bespoke platform, unique materials and construction - so far away from the other cars produced by the brand, and looked the part too. Japan not allowed to have supercars from that era? All other 90s supecar poster-cars are european - but JDM wise, the NSX at that time was clearly a step above. Sorry R32 Skyline, but - just is what it is.
Bellends who think its all about straight line speed won't get the "only" 276bhp, but the thing revs to 8k, has titanium rods, and sounds incredible (with the right exhaust, granted); besides - look at the say 0-200km/h time of other comparable early 90s cars out there (especially JDM cars); it's more than competitive - closely matched with the Testarossa for example, but just an objectively better car.
They never really developed it though, so as the 90s progress and there are only minor changes to power (3.2), then the facelift NA2s agree it may struggle to hold on to this entirely subjective "supercar" label, but when it was launched , it was definitely the real deal
(just never ever an auto tho... they appear almost popular in the UK as every car on sale seems to have an automatic. In reality they were less than a quarter of total cars sold here, just everyone with a manual ain't selling it!!)
Someone's a bit touchy today. HardMiles said:
Couldn't agree more. It isn't about performance at all, it is how it makes you feel, how rare they are, how they behave and whether lustful stares and thumbs up adorn your driving experience, the cars on that list that I'd say are actually respected in the right way for the right reasons wouldn't be everyones taste, but are as follows:
Maserati - Huge no.
TVR - Huge yes, in fact it is probably the one that will excite you most until you're in the XJ220...
Noble - Wicked cars, look and go so well! If only they had a V8
GTR - Boring
911 - NEVER
Lambo - Yep, I'll agree, shame about all the cheap Audi bits mind you.
McLaren - A weapon, but not exclusive or special, also sounds like a washing machine on a spin cycle (yawn)
XJ220 - Huegly undervalued compared with its contemporaries and I would suggest a sound investment. Very rare and special.
I was lucky enough to have a passenger ride in an XJ220, with a Jaguar development driver at a charity track day in the rain. What a fabulous thing, every inch the unruly animal one would hope of a 'proper' supercar! I never understood the criticism of the engine either... real menace at low revs and a hard edged sound at full-chat, with wooshes and chatters from the turbos and wastegates. The cabin felt like being in a fighter jet, with the glass roof and dials on the door panel. I'd get one like a shot if I had the means... as you say, surely a good buy, relatively.Maserati - Huge no.
TVR - Huge yes, in fact it is probably the one that will excite you most until you're in the XJ220...
Noble - Wicked cars, look and go so well! If only they had a V8
GTR - Boring
911 - NEVER
Lambo - Yep, I'll agree, shame about all the cheap Audi bits mind you.
McLaren - A weapon, but not exclusive or special, also sounds like a washing machine on a spin cycle (yawn)
XJ220 - Huegly undervalued compared with its contemporaries and I would suggest a sound investment. Very rare and special.
I think that the Lexus LFA is one of my favorite supercars, which being front-mid engined proves that a supercar doesn't have to be rear
/ rear-mid engined. However they now seem to be about £750k which is a lot of money.
It is also interesting that although NSX and 911 prices have skyrocketed, prices of Ferrari 360s seem quite flat at about £60k and seem good value at the moment - maybe they will be next to appreciate?
/ rear-mid engined. However they now seem to be about £750k which is a lot of money.
It is also interesting that although NSX and 911 prices have skyrocketed, prices of Ferrari 360s seem quite flat at about £60k and seem good value at the moment - maybe they will be next to appreciate?
Edited by Matt_T on Monday 15th August 17:58
Edited by Matt_T on Monday 15th August 17:59
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