Middle Lane Drivers, Do they Ever Notice?
Discussion
bigothunter said:
Nomme de Plum said:
what is your evidence?
Drivers who hog the middle lane fit the definition of morons.They are foolish or stupid; they act as though affected by mild intellectual disability.
It’s Middle Lane MORONS, because it’s the most accurate description, for someone who is too stupid to understand or accept that their use of the roads is incorrect, both legally and morally.
Hol said:
Well, that’s why they aren’t called Middle Lane Experts by all the people who actually can read and understand the Highway Code.
It’s Middle Lane MORONS, because it’s the most accurate description, for someone who is too stupid to understand or accept that their use of the roads is incorrect, both legally and morally.
I don't believe that, not one bit. MLM's know they shouldn't sit in the middle lanes but choose to do so. It isn't that they don't understand the Code nor that they refuse to accept that they are technically in the wrong (unlike those who believe the Code is wrong for speeding and that they know better). It’s Middle Lane MORONS, because it’s the most accurate description, for someone who is too stupid to understand or accept that their use of the roads is incorrect, both legally and morally.
They make a calculated choice to remain in the middle lanes because it suits them to do so - laziness likely being the main reason.
Whereas those who deliberately go much faster that the speed limits do so out of arrogance and an assumption that those who decide speed limits on any given stretch are idiots and should be ignored. It's these law breakers who are the true moron's.
PastelNata said:
Hol said:
Well, that’s why they aren’t called Middle Lane Experts by all the people who actually can read and understand the Highway Code.
It’s Middle Lane MORONS, because it’s the most accurate description, for someone who is too stupid to understand or accept that their use of the roads is incorrect, both legally and morally.
I don't believe that, not one bit. MLM's know they shouldn't sit in the middle lanes but choose to do so. It isn't that they don't understand the Code nor that they refuse to accept that they are technically in the wrong (unlike those who believe the Code is wrong for speeding and that they know better). It’s Middle Lane MORONS, because it’s the most accurate description, for someone who is too stupid to understand or accept that their use of the roads is incorrect, both legally and morally.
They make a calculated choice to remain in the middle lanes because it suits them to do so - laziness likely being the main reason.
Whereas those who deliberately go much faster that the speed limits do so out of arrogance and an assumption that those who decide speed limits on any given stretch are idiots and should be ignored. It's these law breakers who are the true moron's.
They clearly had no idea what they were doing was wrong.because I was one of a few that, having given them every chance of moving over, just passed on the inside.
Perhaps even more pathetic was the queue who stayed behind them in the outside lane, presumably not daring to pass.
swisstoni said:
Twice in two days I’ve seen large white vans driven on the outside lane of NSL dual carriageways doing about 50 if that. For miles.
They clearly had no idea what they were doing was wrong.because I was one of a few that, having given them every chance of moving over, just passed on the inside.
Perhaps even more pathetic was the queue who stayed behind them in the outside lane, presumably not daring to pass.
White van drivers are special They clearly had no idea what they were doing was wrong.because I was one of a few that, having given them every chance of moving over, just passed on the inside.
Perhaps even more pathetic was the queue who stayed behind them in the outside lane, presumably not daring to pass.
Large vans have 56mph rigid limiters if they are over 3500kg (4250kg for electric). Still no excuse for camping in the outside lane
PastelNata said:
Whereas those who deliberately go much faster that the speed limits do so out of arrogance and an assumption that those who decide speed limits on any given stretch are idiots and should be ignored. It's these law breakers who are the true moron's.
So anyone exceeding 70 mph:- Is foolish or stupid
- Acts as though affected by intellectual disability
- Has low intelligence
Could you explain how you came to that assertion please?
Also what does the use of inappropriate apostrophes reveal about a person's intellect?
PastelNata said:
Hol said:
Well, that’s why they aren’t called Middle Lane Experts by all the people who actually can read and understand the Highway Code.
It’s Middle Lane MORONS, because it’s the most accurate description, for someone who is too stupid to understand or accept that their use of the roads is incorrect, both legally and morally.
I don't believe that, not one bit. MLM's know they shouldn't sit in the middle lanes but choose to do so. It isn't that they don't understand the Code nor that they refuse to accept that they are technically in the wrong (unlike those who believe the Code is wrong for speeding and that they know better). It’s Middle Lane MORONS, because it’s the most accurate description, for someone who is too stupid to understand or accept that their use of the roads is incorrect, both legally and morally.
They make a calculated choice to remain in the middle lanes because it suits them to do so - laziness likely being the main reason.
Whereas those who deliberately go much faster that the speed limits do so out of arrogance and an assumption that those who decide speed limits on any given stretch are idiots and should be ignored. It's these law breakers who are the true moron's.
You should know. If you're pontificating about speeding and are doing so because you expect us to believe you never speed, you're the biggest moron on here. And a hypocrite. among other things.
swisstoni said:
Twice in two days I’ve seen large white vans driven on the outside lane of NSL dual carriageways doing about 50 if that. For miles.
They clearly had no idea what they were doing was wrong.because I was one of a few that, having given them every chance of moving over, just passed on the inside.
Perhaps even more pathetic was the queue who stayed behind them in the outside lane, presumably not daring to pass.
there was one on the a12 yesterday holding everyone up, when he eventually got over when it became briefly 3 lanes, it turns out he was on the phone texting. c*nt.They clearly had no idea what they were doing was wrong.because I was one of a few that, having given them every chance of moving over, just passed on the inside.
Perhaps even more pathetic was the queue who stayed behind them in the outside lane, presumably not daring to pass.
Heaveho said:
They're morons. No amount of discussion about the reasons they do it will alter the outcome. Call it any way you want, but they're pond life, as are those that defend them.
You should know. If you're pontificating about speeding and are doing so because you expect us to believe you never speed, you're the biggest moron on here. And a hypocrite. among other things.
Nah - PastelNata is the type who sticks rigidly to speed limits, no matter how ridiculous. Removes the need for conscious thought.You should know. If you're pontificating about speeding and are doing so because you expect us to believe you never speed, you're the biggest moron on here. And a hypocrite. among other things.
Are MLM’s on par with dual carriageway morons, driving through Aberdeen last week, Anderson Drive quite a long dual carriageway with numerous roundabouts, van in the outer lane, no idea as there was nothing on the inside lane.
Speed limit 40, quite a few passed him on the inside, at a roundabout he went straight over still in outside lane, me inside cc 40, just about to pass him slowly, he indicates and pulls over in front of me, and turned left at the next roundabout. I had to just about do an emergency brake.
The van was a local, just wasn’t paying attention, that incident is one reason I try not to undertake on motorways in case they decide to do a signal, manoeuvre and maybe look…..
Speed limit 40, quite a few passed him on the inside, at a roundabout he went straight over still in outside lane, me inside cc 40, just about to pass him slowly, he indicates and pulls over in front of me, and turned left at the next roundabout. I had to just about do an emergency brake.
The van was a local, just wasn’t paying attention, that incident is one reason I try not to undertake on motorways in case they decide to do a signal, manoeuvre and maybe look…..
Vipers said:
Are MLM’s on par with dual carriageway morons, driving through Aberdeen last week, Anderson Drive quite a long dual carriageway with numerous roundabouts, van in the outer lane, no idea as there was nothing on the inside lane.
Speed limit 40, quite a few passed him on the inside, at a roundabout he went straight over still in outside lane, me inside cc 40, just about to pass him slowly, he indicates and pulls over in front of me, and turned left at the next roundabout. I had to just about do an emergency brake.
The van was a local, just wasn’t paying attention, that incident is one reason I try not to undertake on motorways in case they decide to do a signal, manoeuvre and maybe look…..
I don’t think they are a different species from MLM Vulgaris.Speed limit 40, quite a few passed him on the inside, at a roundabout he went straight over still in outside lane, me inside cc 40, just about to pass him slowly, he indicates and pulls over in front of me, and turned left at the next roundabout. I had to just about do an emergency brake.
The van was a local, just wasn’t paying attention, that incident is one reason I try not to undertake on motorways in case they decide to do a signal, manoeuvre and maybe look…..
Nomme de Plum said:
bigothunter said:
Nomme de Plum said:
Moron is not a word anyone should use. Perhaps you should research its derivation...
1: a foolish or stupid person
2: a person affected with mild intellectual disability
Which is exactly what I meant
Whilst I might attempt to put the blame partly on other cretinous imbeciles, the actually fault was all mine. On each occasion, the normal driving God that I usually am, became temporarily a moron.
Just reading about a motorists undertook a MLM on the M74 and slammed on the brakes forcing the other car to stop, so assuming he pulled over to block the car he had passed, got out to speak to him and a van ploughed into the stationary cars.
Beyond stupid, yet to be sentenced.
Take care out there people.
Beyond stupid, yet to be sentenced.
Take care out there people.
M4 8:15 yesterday morning between J10 and 8/9. 4 lane 'smart' motorway
Newish Porsche 911 in horrible primer grey sticking to lane 3 when lanes one and two are empty....
...was undertaken by a black pick-up truck sticking in lane 2 when lane 1 was empty.
Followed both for miles as they stuck to 'their' lanes.
Coming back there was the usual driver who went straight to lane 3 when joining even though the slip road becomes lane 1.
Newish Porsche 911 in horrible primer grey sticking to lane 3 when lanes one and two are empty....
...was undertaken by a black pick-up truck sticking in lane 2 when lane 1 was empty.
Followed both for miles as they stuck to 'their' lanes.
Coming back there was the usual driver who went straight to lane 3 when joining even though the slip road becomes lane 1.
Edited by Agent57 on Monday 5th June 09:11
Agent57 said:
M4 8:15 yesterday morning between J10 and 8/9. 4 lane 'smart' motorway
Newish Porsche 911 in horrible primer grey sticking to lane 3 when lanes one and two are empty....
...was undertaken by a black pick-up truck sticking in lane 2 when lane 1 was empty.
Followed both for miles as the stuck to 'their' lanes.
Coming back there was the usual driver who went straight to lane 3 when joining even though the slip road becomes lane 1.
Fast lane mentality, they maybe thinking “Well I am going fast, so I am in the fast lane”.Newish Porsche 911 in horrible primer grey sticking to lane 3 when lanes one and two are empty....
...was undertaken by a black pick-up truck sticking in lane 2 when lane 1 was empty.
Followed both for miles as the stuck to 'their' lanes.
Coming back there was the usual driver who went straight to lane 3 when joining even though the slip road becomes lane 1.
Vipers said:
Agent57 said:
M4 8:15 yesterday morning between J10 and 8/9. 4 lane 'smart' motorway
Newish Porsche 911 in horrible primer grey sticking to lane 3 when lanes one and two are empty....
...was undertaken by a black pick-up truck sticking in lane 2 when lane 1 was empty.
Followed both for miles as the stuck to 'their' lanes.
Coming back there was the usual driver who went straight to lane 3 when joining even though the slip road becomes lane 1.
Fast lane mentality, they maybe thinking “Well I am going fast, so I am in the fast lane”.Newish Porsche 911 in horrible primer grey sticking to lane 3 when lanes one and two are empty....
...was undertaken by a black pick-up truck sticking in lane 2 when lane 1 was empty.
Followed both for miles as the stuck to 'their' lanes.
Coming back there was the usual driver who went straight to lane 3 when joining even though the slip road becomes lane 1.
bigothunter said:
Nomme de Plum said:
Probably yes. But it isn't going to change is it?
Isn't it less stressful to accept others failings and idiosyncrasies. Other than those with poor lane discipline there will be those that consider speed limits do not apply to them. They are all just really poor drivers.
Middle lane hogging was made an offence back in 2013. So an attempt has been made to improve matters albeit with limited effect. Education 'adverts' and Move Left signs would help.Isn't it less stressful to accept others failings and idiosyncrasies. Other than those with poor lane discipline there will be those that consider speed limits do not apply to them. They are all just really poor drivers.
Most of my motorway driving today involves towing a large car transporter. I am not permitted in the outside lane. So MLMs can present a significant inhibiter to making progress.
Actually playing with MLMs can be good sport rather than stressful. Know I shouldn't do it but sometimes I can't resist.
Please don't get me started on our ridiculously low speed limits only suitable for morons.
The law in relation to it did not change, it has always had to be dealt with under s3 RTA where it's considered appropriate to.
What did happen was that a disposal change was made that allowed FPNs to be issued for s3 RTA offences, prior to that they couldn't be issued for s3 RTA.
Edited by vonhosen on Monday 5th June 19:26
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