Middle Lane Drivers, Do they Ever Notice?
Discussion
South Cheshire up to The Lakes at the weekend,mostly M6. Not too bad going up. On the way back the entire inside lane was held to 68 mph by a small white car for 25+ miles. Aggressive tailgating by a large black SUV made no difference (not me BTW i was about 5 cars back) and they eventually pulled over. Two young girls, oblivious. Then stuck behind a mini for a few miles at 70 mph, middle lane completely free. eventually he pulled over and my girlfriend in the passenger seat was informed by hand signal she was an onanist.
popeyewhite said:
South Cheshire up to The Lakes at the weekend,mostly M6. Not too bad going up. On the way back the entire inside lane was held to 68 mph by a small white car for 25+ miles. Aggressive tailgating by a large black SUV made no difference (not me BTW i was about 5 cars back) and they eventually pulled over. Two young girls, oblivious. Then stuck behind a mini for a few miles at 70 mph, middle lane completely free. eventually he pulled over and my girlfriend in the passenger seat was informed by hand signal she was an onanist.
I don't understand why they didn’t use the second lane and pass those shocking drivers doing 68, that’s shocking 
If they were in lane one what did they pull over into? Did you mean they were in the middle lane?
Vipers said:
popeyewhite said:
South Cheshire up to The Lakes at the weekend,mostly M6. Not too bad going up. On the way back the entire inside lane was held to 68 mph by a small white car for 25+ miles. Aggressive tailgating by a large black SUV made no difference (not me BTW i was about 5 cars back) and they eventually pulled over. Two young girls, oblivious. Then stuck behind a mini for a few miles at 70 mph, middle lane completely free. eventually he pulled over and my girlfriend in the passenger seat was informed by hand signal she was an onanist.
I don't understand why they didn’t use the second lane and pass those shocking drivers doing 68, that’s shocking If they were in lane one what did they pull over into? Did you mean they were in the middle lane?
popeyewhite said:
I think you've deduced correctly, being of astonishing insight and intellect, that I meant outside when I wrote inside lane. I'm getting old....
The inside lane is the one on the outside of the motorway, and vice versa.Hence, better to use "Lane 1", "Lane 2" etc. to prevent confusion! Especially important when discussing roundabouts!
Cliftonite said:
popeyewhite said:
I think you've deduced correctly, being of astonishing insight and intellect, that I meant outside when I wrote inside lane. I'm getting old....
The inside lane is the one on the outside of the motorway, and vice versa.Hence, better to use "Lane 1", "Lane 2" etc. to prevent confusion! Especially important when discussing roundabouts!
popeyewhite said:
Cliftonite said:
popeyewhite said:
I think you've deduced correctly, being of astonishing insight and intellect, that I meant outside when I wrote inside lane. I'm getting old....
The inside lane is the one on the outside of the motorway, and vice versa.Hence, better to use "Lane 1", "Lane 2" etc. to prevent confusion! Especially important when discussing roundabouts!
swisstoni said:
popeyewhite said:
Cliftonite said:
popeyewhite said:
I think you've deduced correctly, being of astonishing insight and intellect, that I meant outside when I wrote inside lane. I'm getting old....
The inside lane is the one on the outside of the motorway, and vice versa.Hence, better to use "Lane 1", "Lane 2" etc. to prevent confusion! Especially important when discussing roundabouts!
Some of us do notice and actively try to stay in the middle lane - this is me.
I have become a middle lane moron after becoming stressed about speed cameras on every section of the road that making progress is utterly stupid - much more stupid than hogging the middle lane.
Some rules you should aim to follow if you want to sit in the middle lane:
1) Obvious, but important, never ever leave the middle lane. No matter the speed, if other lanes are clear or anything else, disregard any information and stay in the middle lane.
2) Do not give a f
k about anyone else, left, right, behind it doesn't matter. The last car you should care about is in the car in front. If you are too close to them then do not worry as the car behind you will be so close that in a collision everyone will be at fault. If you are in someone's blind spot, so what, that isn't in your problem.
3) My preference is too stick cruise on (radar better if you have it) to something around 70. With radar and lane keep assist you don't need to drive at all really. Remember you don't need to look at mirrors or windows as you do not care about anyone around you and you aren't moving lanes.
4) If someone wants to enter your lane, remember rule 2.
5) Do not ever get angry at anyone else's driving - it's only a route to take the high ground and you'll start thinking about following the highway code again.
6) If you see a warning sign telling you to "not hog the middle lane" then ignore it.
I was a make progress at all times, move left unless overtaking someone person and to be honest every drive was miserable.
It took some (a lot actually) adjustment to adopt the mindset I describe above and I do sometimes find myself moving back to L1 (this usually leads to regret as end up with someone following the rules above sitting in your blind spot). However, once you master the above your long distance drives will be the place where you enter a zen state of mind.
No one else to worry about, no speed cameras to worry about, no speed awareness course to worry about, and no killing to worry about because speed kills. You have to adjust journey times, but to be honest you don't care about that either, you are a sheep and it is good.
Enjoy folks, it's a different world out there, you just need to try it.
I have become a middle lane moron after becoming stressed about speed cameras on every section of the road that making progress is utterly stupid - much more stupid than hogging the middle lane.
Some rules you should aim to follow if you want to sit in the middle lane:
1) Obvious, but important, never ever leave the middle lane. No matter the speed, if other lanes are clear or anything else, disregard any information and stay in the middle lane.
2) Do not give a f
k about anyone else, left, right, behind it doesn't matter. The last car you should care about is in the car in front. If you are too close to them then do not worry as the car behind you will be so close that in a collision everyone will be at fault. If you are in someone's blind spot, so what, that isn't in your problem.3) My preference is too stick cruise on (radar better if you have it) to something around 70. With radar and lane keep assist you don't need to drive at all really. Remember you don't need to look at mirrors or windows as you do not care about anyone around you and you aren't moving lanes.
4) If someone wants to enter your lane, remember rule 2.
5) Do not ever get angry at anyone else's driving - it's only a route to take the high ground and you'll start thinking about following the highway code again.
6) If you see a warning sign telling you to "not hog the middle lane" then ignore it.
I was a make progress at all times, move left unless overtaking someone person and to be honest every drive was miserable.
It took some (a lot actually) adjustment to adopt the mindset I describe above and I do sometimes find myself moving back to L1 (this usually leads to regret as end up with someone following the rules above sitting in your blind spot). However, once you master the above your long distance drives will be the place where you enter a zen state of mind.
No one else to worry about, no speed cameras to worry about, no speed awareness course to worry about, and no killing to worry about because speed kills. You have to adjust journey times, but to be honest you don't care about that either, you are a sheep and it is good.
Enjoy folks, it's a different world out there, you just need to try it.
Edited by Saudade on Monday 31st July 19:47
Saudade said:
Some of us do notice and actively try to stay in the middle lane - this is me.
I have become a middle lane moron after becoming stressed about speed cameras on every section of road that making progress is utterly stupid - much more stupid than hogging the middle lane.
Some rules you should aim to follow if you want to sit in the middle lane:
1) Obvious, but important, never ever leave the middle lane. No matter the speed, if other lanes are clear or anything else, disregard any information and stay in the middle lane.
2) Do not give a fk about anyone else, left, right, behind it doesn't matter. The last car you should care about is in the car in front. If you are too close to them then do not worry as the car behind you will be so close that in a collision everyone will be at fault. If you are in someone's blind spot, so what, that isn't in your problem.
3) My preference is too stick cruise on (radar better if you have it) to something around 70. With radar and lane keep assist you don't need to drive at all really. Remember you don't need to look at mirrors or windows as you do not care about anyone around you and you aren't moving lanes.
4) If someone wants to enter your lane, remember rule 2.
5) Do not ever get angry at anyone else's drive - it's only a route to take the high ground and you'll start thinking about following the highway code again.
6) If you see a warning sign telling you to "not hog the middle lane" then ignore it.
I was a make progress at all times, move left unless overtaking someone and to be honest every drive was miserable.
It took some (a lot actually) adjustment to adopt the mindset I describe above and I do sometimes find myself moving back to L1 (this usually leads to regret as end up with someone following the rules above sitting in your blind spot). However, once you master the above your long distance drives will be the place where you enter a zen state of mind.
No one else to worry about, no speed cameras to worry, no speed awareness course to worry about, and no killing to worry about because speed kills. You have to adjust journey times, but to be honest you don't care about that either, you are a sheep and it is good.
Enjoy folks, it's a different world out there, you just need to try it.
I have become a middle lane moron after becoming stressed about speed cameras on every section of road that making progress is utterly stupid - much more stupid than hogging the middle lane.
Some rules you should aim to follow if you want to sit in the middle lane:
1) Obvious, but important, never ever leave the middle lane. No matter the speed, if other lanes are clear or anything else, disregard any information and stay in the middle lane.
2) Do not give a f
k about anyone else, left, right, behind it doesn't matter. The last car you should care about is in the car in front. If you are too close to them then do not worry as the car behind you will be so close that in a collision everyone will be at fault. If you are in someone's blind spot, so what, that isn't in your problem.3) My preference is too stick cruise on (radar better if you have it) to something around 70. With radar and lane keep assist you don't need to drive at all really. Remember you don't need to look at mirrors or windows as you do not care about anyone around you and you aren't moving lanes.
4) If someone wants to enter your lane, remember rule 2.
5) Do not ever get angry at anyone else's drive - it's only a route to take the high ground and you'll start thinking about following the highway code again.
6) If you see a warning sign telling you to "not hog the middle lane" then ignore it.
I was a make progress at all times, move left unless overtaking someone and to be honest every drive was miserable.
It took some (a lot actually) adjustment to adopt the mindset I describe above and I do sometimes find myself moving back to L1 (this usually leads to regret as end up with someone following the rules above sitting in your blind spot). However, once you master the above your long distance drives will be the place where you enter a zen state of mind.
No one else to worry about, no speed cameras to worry, no speed awareness course to worry about, and no killing to worry about because speed kills. You have to adjust journey times, but to be honest you don't care about that either, you are a sheep and it is good.
Enjoy folks, it's a different world out there, you just need to try it.
Just leave earlier...
Interestingly saw a number of dot matrix signs saying keep left unless overtaking on the m6 and motorways in that area on recent couple of trips to the NW.
The driving was abysmal on m6 in the black country and all of those around birmingham in particluar (bar the toll which was lovely and clear) and again as a i approached manchester.
Not just ML'ing it was like wacky races.
The driving was abysmal on m6 in the black country and all of those around birmingham in particluar (bar the toll which was lovely and clear) and again as a i approached manchester.
Not just ML'ing it was like wacky races.
Just returned to Merseyside from a Normandy holiday. Driving on the French autoroutes was a pleasure: no lane hogging, no aggressive driving, most indicated appropriately. Maybe a little random at times, but generally very good.
In stark contrast to France, the stretch of the journey in England was abysmal... It really is a free-for-all on our motorways. How does anyone put up with the M25 every day?
I was on an empty M6 toll last night, and an Alfa Giulietta stayed in Lane 3/4 for the whole fking duration.
In stark contrast to France, the stretch of the journey in England was abysmal... It really is a free-for-all on our motorways. How does anyone put up with the M25 every day?
I was on an empty M6 toll last night, and an Alfa Giulietta stayed in Lane 3/4 for the whole fking duration. bsp23 said:
Just returned to Merseyside from a Normandy holiday. Driving on the French autoroutes was a pleasure: no lane hogging, no aggressive driving, most indicated appropriately. Maybe a little random at times, but generally very good.
In stark contrast to France, the stretch of the journey in England was abysmal... It really is a free-for-all on our motorways. How does anyone put up with the M25 every day? I was on an empty M6 toll last night, and an Alfa Giulietta stayed in Lane 3/4 for the whole fking duration.
If it was an empty M6 then get on with life & don't worry about it.In stark contrast to France, the stretch of the journey in England was abysmal... It really is a free-for-all on our motorways. How does anyone put up with the M25 every day?
I was on an empty M6 toll last night, and an Alfa Giulietta stayed in Lane 3/4 for the whole fking duration. There's little point working yourself into a froth over things you can't influence. Doing so adversely affects you, not them or anyone else.
I can't remember if it was on here that i read about the "loop the moron" game.
You complete an overtake of a middle lane moron in the outside lane then move to the middle (or third) lane and then to the inside lane or the lane inside your target car before slowing until they overtake you. You then accelerate to re overtake in the correct fashion and repeat as above. managed five loops once, I think northbound on the M3.
You complete an overtake of a middle lane moron in the outside lane then move to the middle (or third) lane and then to the inside lane or the lane inside your target car before slowing until they overtake you. You then accelerate to re overtake in the correct fashion and repeat as above. managed five loops once, I think northbound on the M3.
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