Most tasteless new car on sale

Most tasteless new car on sale

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sam.rog

770 posts

79 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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GT9 said:
Personally I like the fact that BMW are not afraid to challenge this preconceived idea of how cars 'must' look.

If that's not for you then VAG will no doubt have something up your street.

And do you really think they were going to give up having some form of kidney grille, the single most identifiable feature of a BMW?
I own 2 bmw. A e91 and a g20.
The iX is disgusting.

In December I’m replacing the g20 for a g21 lci. I am a bmw fan. But the iX is horrible.


Edited by sam.rog on Tuesday 16th August 13:20

NomduJour

19,157 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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robemcdonald said:
Opinions are like aholes and all that...
It’s deliberate bad design, nothing more. BMW know that, the people who designed it know that.

GT9 said:
Designing a new car to appeal to the majority of new car buyers globally is not bad design, it's just business 101.
Again, bad design is bad design, whichever market you’re chasing.

rjfp1962

7,778 posts

74 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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GT9

6,746 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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sam.rog said:
I own 2 bmw. A e91 and a g20.
The iX is disgusting.
I would argue that the iX is specifically designed to appeal more to people who've never owned a BMW.

I would also argue that in a few years time it will look entirely normal to most who find it a bit 'too soon' right now.

There will of course be the stalwarts who will never be wiling to accept it, mainly for fear of conceding that things change.

I would argue that the most likely place you will find that very small cross-section is right here on this thread.

Megaflow

9,458 posts

226 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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GT9 said:
NomduJour said:
GT9 said:
Agree it looks better in in the flesh. The perm-offended blokes the can't stand this car are going to find themselves in an ever decreasing circle as the worlds moves on.
Bad design is bad design. The iX is bad design.
Look, I get that this car parked in a sleepy village of middle England is going to look out of place.

Travel to a modern Chinese or American city and all of a sudden it looks completely in-place.

This is what never seems to get through to posters on here, we are no longer relevant to the global new car market.

We are outnumbered 10 to 1.

Designing a new car to appeal to the majority of new car buyers globally is not bad design, it's just business 101.
I totally get that. That still doesn’t make it tasteful.

ingenieur

4,097 posts

182 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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What The Deuces said:
Just to comment, Bangle era 5's are good looking cars, always were.
The outside was always alright. But before the facelift the interior was repulsive and despite them being good cars to drive etc... I will never own a 5-series with bangalised interior. Albeit the threat of that diminishing daily with them being so old anyway.

Cannot stand those door handles with window buttons you have to contort yourself to press and the absence of straight lines. It would be good for losing weight as I'd be vomiting on a daily basis every time I had to sit in it.

And we all know it was bad because BMW changed it completely at the facelift.


robemcdonald

8,832 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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NomduJour said:
robemcdonald said:
Opinions are like aholes and all that...
It’s deliberate bad design, nothing more. BMW know that, the people who designed it know that.

GT9 said:
Designing a new car to appeal to the majority of new car buyers globally is not bad design, it's just business 101.
Again, bad design is bad design, whichever market you’re chasing.
You do get what an opinion is right? You are claiming something is a bad design because you don't like it. You aren't the arbiter of what constitutes good or bad design.

Lester H

2,753 posts

106 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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sly fox said:
Audi SQ5.

It's an SUV, no it's not it's a sporting SUV.
That doesn't handle well, doesn't do comfort well unless you spec it with a £7k upgrade to model with air suspension, isn't that quick, doesn't make a nice noise ( as it's diesel) and costs a fortune. It's bloody enormous but not much space in rear due to sloping roof. And is not sporty to drive.
It's a marketing person's wet dream of a car.

It's vehicles like this that give ICE cars a bad name.

See also Audi SQ8.
I don't find any Q5. tasteless. A bit boring, maybe, and a bit generic but not tasteless.

swanseaboydan

1,735 posts

164 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Walked past a Maybach 4 x 4 yesterday - that was pretty ugly in my opinion .

Gargamel

15,022 posts

262 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Citroen AMI ?

Tom8

2,097 posts

155 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Is there any new car anyone likes? Many people on many posts commenting on falling out of love with cars, no longer interested etc and I include myself.

The march of the SUV (usually massive, absurdly expensive and awful to look at) over the saloons, coupes and hatch backs, the move to electric whereby what is under the bonnet really doesn't matter. Chavs love massive bling and this is all you get in the motor world now. Probably why that festival of the mundane has been so successful, it has now made them interesting whereas "interesting" metal is dull, repetitive and ghastly.

swanseaboydan

1,735 posts

164 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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I like the Citroen. . ( mind you, I have a Nissan figaro so maybe don’t come to me for style advice ….)

NomduJour

19,157 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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robemcdonald said:
You are claiming something is a bad design because you don't like it.
Of course I'm not.

There are accepted principles of good design which the iX deliberately ignores, on the pretext of being edgy or modern or different - it is none of those things. It is bad design.

robemcdonald

8,832 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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NomduJour said:
robemcdonald said:
You are claiming something is a bad design because you don't like it.
Of course I'm not.

There are accepted principles of good design which the iX deliberately ignores, on the pretext of being edgy or modern or different - it is none of those things. It is bad design.
In your opinion….

Silvanus

5,301 posts

24 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Gargamel said:


Citroen AMI ?
how on earth is that tasteless?

NomduJour

19,157 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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robemcdonald said:
In your opinion….
If your opinion is genuinely that the iX is an example of good car design, then my opinion is that you don't understand car design.

GT9

6,746 posts

173 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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NomduJour said:
There are accepted principles of good design which the iX deliberately ignores, on the pretext of being edgy or modern or different - it is none of those things. It is bad design.
Cloudy out today isn't it.

Why don't you educate us as to what these principles of good design are?

robemcdonald

8,832 posts

197 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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NomduJour said:
robemcdonald said:
In your opinion….
If your opinion is genuinely that the iX is an example of good car design, then my opinion is that you don't understand car design.
I don’t share your opinion, but you’re entitled to it.

NomduJour

19,157 posts

260 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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GT9 said:
Why don't you educate us as to what these principles of good design are?
For a car - good proportions, stance, surfacing and graphics. Even if that allows for subjective interpretation, there's over a century of car design to form some kind of consensus from.

The iX has an awkward stance and proportions (almost like the platform doesn't fit the car), the slabby, flabby wheel arches are clumsy, the surfacing of the bumpers is fussy and unpleasant and at odds with the featureless sides, the entire C-pillar area is a disaster, the lights are mean (more so next to that mutant "grille"), the door handles are terrible. It's just lumpen and undynamic.

Do you really think the iX is an example of good design?

RDMcG

19,202 posts

208 months

Tuesday 16th August 2022
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Silvanus said:
Gargamel said:


Citroen AMI ?
how on earth is that tasteless?
I love that and would have it in a moment as a city runabout if it were available here.