SUV Hatred

[Pica-Pica]

Julian Scott said:

....especially with a media hell-bent on their own agenda and a click-bait mentality!

No different to PH thread titles then, in truth.

[Julian Scott]

Pica-Pica said:

Julian Scott said:

....especially with a media hell-bent on their own agenda and a click-bait mentality!

No different to PH thread titles then, in truth.

Without question.....and the 'blame the SUV' mentality

[Julian Scott]

Interestingly after the tyre extinguisher stories about wilful damage of SUVs in the name of 'eco-friendliness' - we've just booked a hotel in Edinburgh for Christmas. Our confirmation came with a tip that SUV drivers should use the secure hotel car park and not drive into the city centre due to the spate of incidences of damage being done to SUVs.

Even to the extent that the hotel offers to chauffeur guests into the city itself - ironically in the hotel's Range Rover.

[johnnyBv8]

Julian Scott said:

Interestingly after the tyre extinguisher stories about wilful damage of SUVs in the name of 'eco-friendliness' - we've just booked a hotel in Edinburgh for Christmas. Our confirmation came with a tip that SUV drivers should use the secure hotel car park and not drive into the city centre due to the spate of incidences of damage being done to SUVs.

Even to the extent that the hotel offers to chauffeur guests into the city itself - ironically in the hotel's Range Rover.

That sounds very bizarre - the city is awash with SUVs, and the only issue seems to have been a spate of people letting the air out of tyres, mainly around the Marchmont/Morningside areas.

Do they charge for using their secure hotel parking?

Edited by johnnyBv8 on Monday 14th November 15:51

[Julian Scott]

johnnyBv8 said:

Julian Scott said:

Interestingly after the tyre extinguisher stories about wilful damage of SUVs in the name of 'eco-friendliness' - we've just booked a hotel in Edinburgh for Christmas. Our confirmation came with a tip that SUV drivers should use the secure hotel car park and not drive into the city centre due to the spate of incidences of damage being done to SUVs.

Even to the extent that the hotel offers to chauffeur guests into the city itself - ironically in the hotel's Range Rover.

That sounds very bizarre - the city is awash with SUVs, and the only issue seems to have been a spate of people letting the air out of tyres, mainly around the Marchmont/Morningside areas.

Do they charge for using their secure hotel parking?

Edited by johnnyBv8 on Monday 14th November 15:51

No. Not even charging for the chauffeuring into the city.

[johnnyBv8]

Julian Scott said:

No. Not even charging for the chauffeuring into the city.

Would be really interested to know which hotel thinks they have a problem (and handy to know where provides free city parking and chauffeuring). Is your suggestion that the latter is just for SUV owners?!

[Square Leg]

We were planning on going to my sisters between Christmas and New Year - lives by Leith Links, and have to park on the road.
Wonder if the ecoists have ventured that far out…

[johnnyBv8]

Square Leg said:

We were planning on going to my sisters between Christmas and New Year - lives by Leith Links, and have to park on the road.
Wonder if the ecoists have ventured that far out…

You’ll be fine - there were some tyres let down over a few weeks in the summer (apparently by placing a lentil under the valve cap!), but haven’t heard of any real issues.

[Tomanybikes]

Julian Scott said:

Interestingly after the tyre extinguisher stories about wilful damage of SUVs in the name of 'eco-friendliness' - we've just booked a hotel in Edinburgh for Christmas. Our confirmation came with a tip that SUV drivers should use the secure hotel car park and not drive into the city centre due to the spate of incidences of damage being done to SUVs.

Even to the extent that the hotel offers to chauffeur guests into the city itself - ironically in the hotel's Range Rover.

Prestonfield ?

[Yahonza]

Square Leg said:

We were planning on going to my sisters between Christmas and New Year - lives by Leith Links, and have to park on the road.
Wonder if the ecoists have ventured that far out…

They've been focusing their efforts in Marchmont and Bruntsfield recently.

[Julian Scott]

johnnyBv8 said:

Julian Scott said:

No. Not even charging for the chauffeuring into the city.

Would be really interested to know which hotel thinks they have a problem (and handy to know where provides free city parking and chauffeuring). Is your suggestion that the latter is just for SUV owners?!

They don't think they have a problem, they are just making guests aware of issues in the city centre, as highlighted earlier in this thread, and advising guests to leave the car in their car park rather than driving it, and leaving it parked in the city centre.

[Julian Scott]

johnnyBv8 said:

Square Leg said:

We were planning on going to my sisters between Christmas and New Year - lives by Leith Links, and have to park on the road.
Wonder if the ecoists have ventured that far out…

You’ll be fine - there were some tyres let down over a few weeks in the summer (apparently by placing a lentil under the valve cap!), but haven’t heard of any real issues.

I'd call coming back to your car with flat tyres a real issue

[Julian Scott]

Tomanybikes said:

Julian Scott said:

Interestingly after the tyre extinguisher stories about wilful damage of SUVs in the name of 'eco-friendliness' - we've just booked a hotel in Edinburgh for Christmas. Our confirmation came with a tip that SUV drivers should use the secure hotel car park and not drive into the city centre due to the spate of incidences of damage being done to SUVs.

Even to the extent that the hotel offers to chauffeur guests into the city itself - ironically in the hotel's Range Rover.

Prestonfield ?

Yes!

[johnnyBv8]

Julian Scott said:

Tomanybikes said:

Julian Scott said:

Interestingly after the tyre extinguisher stories about wilful damage of SUVs in the name of 'eco-friendliness' - we've just booked a hotel in Edinburgh for Christmas. Our confirmation came with a tip that SUV drivers should use the secure hotel car park and not drive into the city centre due to the spate of incidences of damage being done to SUVs.

Even to the extent that the hotel offers to chauffeur guests into the city itself - ironically in the hotel's Range Rover.

Prestonfield ?

Yes!

Good guess! Prestonfield is nowhere near the city centre though . It’s 3 miles out and is next to Niddrie and Craigmillar, some of the rougher areas of the city. I doubt car damage will be SUV specific and if it is it’ll be reflective of any rundown area targeting cars perceived to be expensive. Of course the hotel may wish to align it with the eco/climate movement rather than draw attention to the area the hotel is located in.

Edited by johnnyBv8 on Tuesday 15th November 15:01

[johnnyBv8]

Julian Scott said:

johnnyBv8 said:

Square Leg said:

We were planning on going to my sisters between Christmas and New Year - lives by Leith Links, and have to park on the road.
Wonder if the ecoists have ventured that far out…

You’ll be fine - there were some tyres let down over a few weeks in the summer (apparently by placing a lentil under the valve cap!), but haven’t heard of any real issues.

I'd call coming back to your car with flat tyres a real issue

Anything individual can be an issue but that doesn’t make it a big issue in the wider context. A few lentils put under valve caps in a city of over 500k people. As per my other reply, your hotel isn’t in the city centre and is a nice hotel in a not so nice area.

[Julian Scott]

johnnyBv8 said:

Julian Scott said:

Tomanybikes said:

Julian Scott said:

Interestingly after the tyre extinguisher stories about wilful damage of SUVs in the name of 'eco-friendliness' - we've just booked a hotel in Edinburgh for Christmas. Our confirmation came with a tip that SUV drivers should use the secure hotel car park and not drive into the city centre due to the spate of incidences of damage being done to SUVs.

Even to the extent that the hotel offers to chauffeur guests into the city itself - ironically in the hotel's Range Rover.

Prestonfield ?

Yes!

Good guess! Prestonfield is nowhere near the city centre though . Its 3 miles out of the city and is next to Niddrie and Craigmillar, some of the rougher areas of the city. I doubt car damage will be SUV specific and if it is it’ll be reflective of any rundown area targeting cars perceived to be expensive! Of course the hotel may wish to align it with the eco/climate movement rather than draw attention to the fact that their hotel is not in a great area!

Edited by johnnyBv8 on Tuesday 15th November 14:20

I didn't say the hotel was City Centre, and all the better because of it. It is exactly 1.9 miles to The Royal Mile, I know as we've walked it several times and won a bet with my daughter that it was 'less than 2 miles'

And it's not really 'next to' Craigmillar, and Niddrie even further away unless you enjoy a mile walk across muddy fields and the golf course - and even then, Craigmillar and Niddrie are hardly ganglands, especially comparing crime rates with the city centre? Not sure what point you're trying to make? Especially as Prestonfield is set in it's own grounds in an area where the greatest crime is when Muriel forgets the handbrake on her 1995 Micra, or Agnes forgets her Kilt Pin and unwittingly flashes the neighbourhood.


As for the SUV specific crime, I'm merely pointing out what the hotel has advised. We've been going there for almost 20 years, never had advice to avoid taking any car into the city centre, never had an issue. Only this time have they sent us an advisory that SUV driving guests have has problems with their SUVs being targeted by the activists as reported in the news where 100s have been affected, and so they have advised leaving SUVs at the hotel.

[Julian Scott]

johnnyBv8 said:

Julian Scott said:

johnnyBv8 said:

Square Leg said:

We were planning on going to my sisters between Christmas and New Year - lives by Leith Links, and have to park on the road.
Wonder if the ecoists have ventured that far out…

You’ll be fine - there were some tyres let down over a few weeks in the summer (apparently by placing a lentil under the valve cap!), but haven’t heard of any real issues.

I'd call coming back to your car with flat tyres a real issue

Anything individual can be an issue but that doesn’t make it a big issue in the wider context. A few lentils put under valve caps in a city of over 500k people. As per my other reply, your hotel isn’t in the city centre and is a nice hotel in a not so nice area.

Not sure if you are either being obtuse, or work for one of the City Centre hotels (or got rejected for a job at Prestonfield? ;-) ).

But.....

- It really isn't in a 'not so nice area
- The problems are not at the hotel, or even in the same area
- Getting back to your car and finding all your tyres deflated on a dark evening, especially if is customarily also damp, is a real issue.


To help you, here is a map of crime rates in Edinburgh, compiled in 2022 covering the last ten years. ;-)

[johnnyBv8]

Julian Scott said:

Lots of stuff

Sorry that my responses have seemingly got you so irate. I’ve lived in Edinburgh for 30 years, so I know the areas, know the hotel, and was sharing my perspective based on knowledge of the city - it doesn’t feel like there’s a particular hatred of SUVs. I did however misinterpret your comment on the city centre and didn’t realise that the “chauffeur”/shuttle service was in and out of the city. I hope you enjoy your stay.

Edited by johnnyBv8 on Tuesday 15th November 17:05

[jm8403]

What are you two blethering on about. Prestonfield is perfectly fine was to town. Not many people would walk from that hotel into the middle of nidire but you could say that about any city. You are never far away from poverty.

It's only a 30min walk to lots of nice bars too. Enjoy.

[5s Alive]

jm8403 said:

nidire.

Gold star for that one.