Pollution from brakes and tyres

[NMNeil]

It's been mentioned in other threads that as you transition to EV's, the pollution from tyres and brakes may get worse.
It seems your concerns may be real and the EU is making up some new rules.
I know the UK is no longer in the EU, but it will probably end up making tyres and brake pads more expensive no matter where you live.
https://www.pewtrusts.org/en/research-and-analysis...

[pocketspring]

No one will be happy until we're walking around barefooted and eating grass.

[QJumper]

Surely EVs don't put as much wear on brake pads, due to regenerative braking.

[Limpet]

pocketspring said:

No one will be happy until we're walking around barefooted and eating grass.

I'm no conspiracy theorist, but I tend to agree. When you read stories like this, it's hard not to start wondering if personal transport generally is the target.

[Zero Fuchs]

QJumper said:

Surely EVs don't put as much wear on brake pads, due to regenerative braking.

Sadly it just more nonsense to bash EV's with.

I mentioned in another thread but my i3s has just had an MOT. After 65k my pads still have just over half their life left. Many EV's will be the same but obviously depends on how people use their regen.

Tyres are unlikely to be an issue either for various reasons.

[RECr]

Our friend in New Mexico rubs his hands with glee.

[Grenadier_45]

QJumper said:

Surely EVs don't put as much wear on brake pads, due to regenerative braking.

Driven even remotely sensibly, that is correct. Even Hybrids have minimal wear on the brakes for exactly that reason. Which is why tyres are the new focus for the anti-car brigade.

Thing is, the rubber-soled shoes I favour wear out in far fewer miles than any known car tyres. Might get a year out of a pair walking 3 miles a day. Perhaps once they've got us out of cars and off buses trains and bicycles, they'll get around to the horrors of shoe pollution.

[Zero Fuchs]

Grenadier_45 said:

once they've got us out of cars and off buses trains and bicycles, they'll get around to the horrors of shoe pollution.

They can tax the fk out of anyone that buys from Clarks first as they deserve it more than most.

[Draxindustries1]

QJumper said:

Surely EVs don't put as much wear on brake pads, due to regenerative braking.

The huge weight increase over ICE cars will negate much if any benefit.
Tyres will also wear quicker and damage road surfaces to a greater extent.

[Hoofy]

And finally cyclists will be taxed.

[Draxindustries1]

pocketspring said:

No one will be happy until we're walking around barefooted and eating grass.

Eating grass can produce gas , same as baked beans..

[lauda]

Hoofy said:

And finally cyclists will be taxed.

Stop it. You'll give the Daily Mail readers a hard-on.

[TCX]

Hoofy said:

And finally cyclists will be taxed.

As a cyclist owning 3 ice's and diesel consuming plant I'm taxed quite enough thanks,maybe they could tax some of your hot air?

[Farmboy UK]

Draxindustries1 said:

QJumper said:

Surely EVs don't put as much wear on brake pads, due to regenerative braking.

The huge weight increase over ICE cars will negate much if any benefit.
Tyres will also wear quicker and damage road surfaces to a greater extent.

As mentioned by others above; EVs greatly lower brake wear over conventional ICEs regardless of weight. Tyres maybe, but brakes definitely have much lighter use on EVs

[robbieduncan]

Draxindustries1 said:

The huge weight increase over ICE cars will negate much if any benefit.
Tyres will also wear quicker and damage road surfaces to a greater extent.

Are EVs really that much heavier that comparable ICE cars? Google says my Model Y weights somewhere between 1909 and 1930 kg. Let's compare that to a similar BMW. I'll use the X3 rather than the X5 as the external sizes are more similar. Google says an X3 weighs between 1875 and 2085 kg. So the EV is similar or even lighter?

[NMNeil]

pocketspring said:

No one will be happy until we're walking around barefooted and eating grass.

Only non GMO and organic grass

[NMNeil]

RECr said:

Our friend in New Mexico rubs his hands with glee.

Why would you say that?
Just giving you a heads up in case you wanted to stock up.
I rub my hands in glee for things like this.
https://www.carscoops.com/2022/09/detroit-firms-fi...
And this.
https://nyc.streetsblog.org/2022/08/22/new-bill-wo...

[Olivergt]

Here's a report from the RAC.

As mentioned previously Brake pad wear is much reduced.

Tyre wear may be a little worse, but not as bad as some people are making out:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/running/...

[super7]

Olivergt said:

Here's a report from the RAC.

As mentioned previously Brake pad wear is much reduced.

Tyre wear may be a little worse, but not as bad as some people are making out:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/running/...

Just stick graphene in both and they'll last much longer...... Graphene infused tyres have less wear and more grip!

[whp1983]

Olivergt said:

Here's a report from the RAC.

As mentioned previously Brake pad wear is much reduced.

Tyre wear may be a little worse, but not as bad as some people are making out:

https://www.rac.co.uk/drive/electric-cars/running/...

Whilst I suspect it’s minimal whatever….. this RAC report tends to use a Nissan leaf as it’s example….. whether the near 3 year ton monstrosities that will soon fill up the roads will be as easy on tyres etc remains to be seen.