RE: Range Rover TDV8 (L322) | PH Heroes
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Always loved a RR, I finally took the plunge and bought a 2007 3.6 TDV8 from a neighbour who ran a dealership in Jan 2018. Lovely colour and spec. Fantastic to drive, sounded great and full of grunt.
After about 3 weeks, a turbo went. Got it back a month later (it’s true it’s a big job). Within 2 weeks the EGR valves failed. Back again. Got it back 2 weeks later and within a week it started throwing error codes and going into limphome. After having to stop and key off half a dozen times just to get home one evening I’d had enough. All was within 3 months of ownership. It was (mercifully) taken back by the dealer for full refund.
Strangely, I was still hooked, but wanted something reliable and still under warranty, so I spent a fortune on a 2yr old L405 later the same year, which I still have.
On reflection maybe I was a tad unlucky and impatient with the L322. I did actually prefer the V8 engine. RR are always going to cost you, either in repairs or depreciation.
After about 3 weeks, a turbo went. Got it back a month later (it’s true it’s a big job). Within 2 weeks the EGR valves failed. Back again. Got it back 2 weeks later and within a week it started throwing error codes and going into limphome. After having to stop and key off half a dozen times just to get home one evening I’d had enough. All was within 3 months of ownership. It was (mercifully) taken back by the dealer for full refund.
Strangely, I was still hooked, but wanted something reliable and still under warranty, so I spent a fortune on a 2yr old L405 later the same year, which I still have.
On reflection maybe I was a tad unlucky and impatient with the L322. I did actually prefer the V8 engine. RR are always going to cost you, either in repairs or depreciation.
cerb4.5lee said:
Is the weight correct for this at only 1795kg? I had a 2004 V8 X5 4.8iS and that weighed 2200kg in comparison(I also have a GLE400d(3.0 straight 6 twin turbo) and that weighs 2300kg as well). 1795kg seems seriously impressive for the size of this with a V8 engine I reckon.
I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
I'd suggest 2500kgs is closer to the real figure. I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
cerb4.5lee said:
Is the weight correct for this at only 1795kg? I had a 2004 V8 X5 4.8iS and that weighed 2200kg in comparison(I also have a GLE400d(3.0 straight 6 twin turbo) and that weighs 2300kg as well). 1795kg seems seriously impressive for the size of this with a V8 engine I reckon.
I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
LolI enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
No.
Its 2700kg. They are exceptionally heavy and it feels it when driving. You ‘sail’ it more than drive it. It’s exceptionally relaxing too though which is what I love.
The next generation I think cut off 500kg by going aluminium.
I had one from new, and it followed three p38s which gave faultless service up to 120k miles each over a couple of years each.
My L322 was awfully unreliable, and broke down in the outside lane two or three times with a diff problem in the first year of ownership - this was a common problem - never know if they fixed the issue eventually?
After the last time I sold it and never bought another landrover product.
My L322 was awfully unreliable, and broke down in the outside lane two or three times with a diff problem in the first year of ownership - this was a common problem - never know if they fixed the issue eventually?
After the last time I sold it and never bought another landrover product.
Calinours said:
Always loved a RR, I finally took the plunge and bought a 2007 3.6 TDV8 from a neighbour who ran a dealership in Jan 2018. Lovely colour and spec. Fantastic to drive, sounded great and full of grunt.
After about 3 weeks, a turbo went. Got it back a month later (it’s true it’s a big job). Within 2 weeks the EGR valves failed. Back again. Got it back 2 weeks later and within a week it started throwing error codes and going into limphome. After having to stop and key off half a dozen times just to get home one evening I’d had enough. All was within 3 months of ownership. It was (mercifully) taken back by the dealer for full refund.
Strangely, I was still hooked, but wanted something reliable and still under warranty, so I spent a fortune on a 2yr old L405 later the same year, which I still have.
On reflection maybe I was a tad unlucky and impatient with the L322. I did actually prefer the V8 engine. RR are always going to cost you, either in repairs or depreciation.
Can’t help thinking you might have got out early with that one. Assuming the financial pain of the work was under warranty. One the turbo and ERG have been replaced, you have good known new items for two of the most troublesome, costly parts. After about 3 weeks, a turbo went. Got it back a month later (it’s true it’s a big job). Within 2 weeks the EGR valves failed. Back again. Got it back 2 weeks later and within a week it started throwing error codes and going into limphome. After having to stop and key off half a dozen times just to get home one evening I’d had enough. All was within 3 months of ownership. It was (mercifully) taken back by the dealer for full refund.
Strangely, I was still hooked, but wanted something reliable and still under warranty, so I spent a fortune on a 2yr old L405 later the same year, which I still have.
On reflection maybe I was a tad unlucky and impatient with the L322. I did actually prefer the V8 engine. RR are always going to cost you, either in repairs or depreciation.
Cold said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Is the weight correct for this at only 1795kg? I had a 2004 V8 X5 4.8iS and that weighed 2200kg in comparison(I also have a GLE400d(3.0 straight 6 twin turbo) and that weighs 2300kg as well). 1795kg seems seriously impressive for the size of this with a V8 engine I reckon.
I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
I'd suggest 2500kgs is closer to the real figure. I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
oilit said:
I had one from new, and it followed three p38s which gave faultless service up to 120k miles each over a couple of years each.
My L322 was awfully unreliable, and broke down in the outside lane two or three times with a diff problem in the first year of ownership - this was a common problem - never know if they fixed the issue eventually?
After the last time I sold it and never bought another landrover product.
Yes, the front coupling was subject to a recall and the sliding splined joint was replaced with a more conventional CV joint FOC. My L322 was awfully unreliable, and broke down in the outside lane two or three times with a diff problem in the first year of ownership - this was a common problem - never know if they fixed the issue eventually?
After the last time I sold it and never bought another landrover product.
p1stonhead said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Is the weight correct for this at only 1795kg? I had a 2004 V8 X5 4.8iS and that weighed 2200kg in comparison(I also have a GLE400d(3.0 straight 6 twin turbo) and that weighs 2300kg as well). 1795kg seems seriously impressive for the size of this with a V8 engine I reckon.
I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
LolI enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
No.
Its 2700kg. They are exceptionally heavy and it feels it when driving. You ‘sail’ it more than drive it. It’s exceptionally relaxing too though which is what I love.
The next generation I think cut off 500kg by going aluminium.
I'm that obsessed with weight...so it was one of the first things that I looked for in the article! A friend of mine has a Land Rover Discovery 4(3.0 V6 TD) and I remember that weighing around 2500kg(and it struggled to overtake stuff as well), so I was surprised to see this saying how light it was for sure.
cerb4.5lee said:
Is the weight correct for this at only 1795kg?
Very much NO!Weight for a late L322 is 2810kg
For fun Range Rover kerb weights as follows;
1990 Vogue SE V8 3.9 (Classic)
1971kg
1996 4.6 HSE (P38)
2220kg
2003 4.4 / 3.0d Vogue SE (L322)
2570kg
2012 4.4 TDV8 / 5.0sc (L332)
2810kg
2015 SDV8 Vogue SE (L405)
2360kg
cerb4.5lee said:
Is the weight correct for this at only 1795kg? I had a 2004 V8 X5 4.8iS and that weighed 2200kg in comparison(I also have a GLE400d(3.0 straight 6 twin turbo) and that weighs 2300kg as well). 1795kg seems seriously impressive for the size of this with a V8 engine I reckon.
I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
ETA...I've just looked the weight of these up and they are over 2700kg...I thought that 1795kg did seem incredibly light for these to be fair!
My 3.6 is quoted at 2700kg kerb, so nearly 3 tons once you've got a couple of people and a bit of luggage onboard.I enjoyed the write up and I've always admired/lusted after the big Range Rover a lot. I love the more recent models too.
ETA...I've just looked the weight of these up and they are over 2700kg...I thought that 1795kg did seem incredibly light for these to be fair!
The 405 that followed it was massively lighter, I think about 500kg.
Stick Legs said:
cerb4.5lee said:
Is the weight correct for this at only 1795kg?
Very much NO!Weight for a late L322 is 2810kg
For fun Range Rover kerb weights as follows;
1990 Vogue SE V8 3.9 (Classic)
1971kg
1996 4.6 HSE (P38)
2220kg
2003 4.4 / 3.0d Vogue SE (L322)
2570kg
2012 4.4 TDV8 / 5.0sc (L332)
2810kg
2015 SDV8 Vogue SE (L405)
2360kg
I'd love a go in any of them to be honest. My Dad has had his 2006 RRS(6 cylinder diesel) since 2012 and he still seems to enjoy it, and even that impressed me when I've driven it(but they get slated generally though).
I bought one back in November, after years of wanting one, reading about the horror stories and the poor dealers and all the other negative vibes it gives. I've always preferred the earlier BMW engine variants and so with a limited budget I took the plunge, ignored every rule in the well versed book and bought the first one I saw, in the rain - low miles (85k, full history (ish) and new air suspension bits and the M62 BMW engine. For what I paid (and I paid a lot for it considering the year of it as others are cheaper) I still think it was a bargain and love it. At the end of the day I'll break it and get (most or some of) my money back if it all goes wrong. One of the best cars I've bought at any price. The biggest killers on these is the rust from what I've seen and it seems to apply to all the years of this model - mine seems to have escaped the worst of it at the moment.
What's gone wrong? The back lights needed to be changed as they were cracked (they all do that), I serviced it myself and managed to crack the sump doing the drain bolt up (not the car's fault) and I've put new tyres on it to replace elderly ditchfinders that it came with. It needs the cam cover gaskets doing and an alignment after some new front lower arms are fitted.
Most things on it can be done at home I've found and it's a joy to drive. The 12mpg overall is manageable as I split the mileage between this, my E38 740i and the BMW 440i I've just bought for work. Only major flaw for me is the whole radio/sat nav set up is dated beyond belief but that can be rectified as it's a BMW system that's easily modified - the later JLR based systems are not so easy to do this with apparently.
What's gone wrong? The back lights needed to be changed as they were cracked (they all do that), I serviced it myself and managed to crack the sump doing the drain bolt up (not the car's fault) and I've put new tyres on it to replace elderly ditchfinders that it came with. It needs the cam cover gaskets doing and an alignment after some new front lower arms are fitted.
Most things on it can be done at home I've found and it's a joy to drive. The 12mpg overall is manageable as I split the mileage between this, my E38 740i and the BMW 440i I've just bought for work. Only major flaw for me is the whole radio/sat nav set up is dated beyond belief but that can be rectified as it's a BMW system that's easily modified - the later JLR based systems are not so easy to do this with apparently.
mersontheperson said:
robertdon777 said:
Looks better from the rear than the new one, which is almost apologetic in its design, trying to hide its size when it should be making a Big statement. The new one has virtually no road presence, the old one had loads.
The all black one 2 meters from my bumper in the outside lane with his right indicator on, while I was on the M4 yesterday morning had plenty of presence! I couldn’t wait for a gap to pull over
The later JLR system can be upgraded to CarPlay or Android Auto by these guys:
https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/wireless-apple-car...
https://unique-ad.co.uk/product/wireless-apple-car...
Snozzer said:
Remember seeing these in around 2002 when they first came out. Couldn't afford one a the time, but it created much want. Best car I ever owned in terms or practically, much better than the 2 460's that replaced it, which had a smaller boot and the rear seats didn't roll forward. Moved away from Range Rover after that, mainly due to the shocking dealers. The visibility and driving position is better in the 322 in my opinion. Did think about getting one to replace my second car, a Jimny (surprising practical as 2 seater) as a local runabout, but the cost to maintain it put me off. The Air suspension went on my 322 which cost £1k to sort out. Ended up buying a new Jogger, which is basically a van. The 322 is a lovely car though.
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