RE: Final EU vote on 2035 engine phaseout delayed

[SpeckledJim]

911hope said:

500TORQUES said:

911hope said:

500TORQUES said:

bigothunter said:

Acceleration of 1.2g equates to 0-60mph in 2.3 secs. That's truly impressive

Does it in 2.8, but obviously accelerates at higher G at lower speed.

Pretty slow compared to a car built for drag racing of course.

G is a constant. Never varies and does not describe acceleration.

Now g, is the acceleration due to earth's gravity, in the absence of drag.

G in this example is not gravity, it's the longitudinal acceleration of the car.

You will find that acceleration is represented by A, as used in F=MA.


Inventing your own physics nomenclature is not really credible. Reminds me of Boris denials.

Do you use M to represent height?

500, if you can’t bring yourself to type it out yourself you can C&P this if you like.

“Gosh, sorry. Yes, you’re right.”

Save it as a note somewhere and you could use it often if you like.

[500TORQUES]

Amazing. The use of G to measure vehicle dynamics is as old as the car.

You will see it displayed every week or two for a few hours on your TV if you watch F1.

It's one of the major parameters you log and analyse when working with any road or race car.

[bigothunter]

911hope said:

You will find that acceleration is represented by A, as used in F=MA.


Inventing your own physics nomenclature is not really credible. Reminds me of Boris denials.

Do you use M to represent height?

Thought the accepted nomenclature for Newton's 2nd Law was F=ma. Perhaps Physics World, Encyclopaedia Britannica and other worthy references are wrong?

https://physicsworld.com/a/f-ma/

https://www.britannica.com/science/Newtons-laws-of...

[911hope]

500TORQUES said:

Amazing. The use of G to measure vehicle dynamics is as old as the car.

You will see it displayed every week or two for a few hours on your TV if you watch F1.

It's one of the major parameters you log and analyse when working with any road or race car.

So you log a constant. G.constants are constant..why bother.

All those people making the same mistake. No wonder you don't know that you are wrong.

To enlighten you G is used a a constant in the equation that described the gravitational force between 2 objects of mass M and m,
With separation D.

Go look it up.
Next you will tell us you car can do 1.2G.

[911hope]

bigothunter said:

911hope said:

You will find that acceleration is represented by A, as used in F=MA.


Inventing your own physics nomenclature is not really credible. Reminds me of Boris denials.

Do you use M to represent height?

Thought the accepted nomenclature for Newton's 2nd Law was F=ma. Perhaps Physics World, Encyclopaedia Britannica and other worthy references are wrong?

https://physicsworld.com/a/f-ma/

https://www.britannica.com/science/Newtons-laws-of...

What is you point?

[bigothunter]

500TORQUES said:

Amazing. The use of G to measure vehicle dynamics is as old as the car.

You will see it displayed every week or two for a few hours on your TV if you watch F1.

It's one of the major parameters you log and analyse when working with any road or race car.

Even though lower case g is technically correct, upper case G is fine colloquially. We all know what is meant.

Can we move on now?

[500TORQUES]

911hope said:

So you log a constant. G.constants are constant..why bother.

All those people making the same mistake. No wonder you don't know that you are wrong.

To enlighten you G is used a a constant in the equation that described the gravitational force between 2 objects of mass M and m,
With separation D.

Go look it up.
Next you will tell us you car can do 1.2G.

Longitudinal and lateral acceleration of a vehicle is not a constant.

Why do you log it? Come on, you can't be this daft.

[bigothunter]

911hope said:

bigothunter said:

911hope said:

You will find that acceleration is represented by A, as used in F=MA.


Inventing your own physics nomenclature is not really credible. Reminds me of Boris denials.

Do you use M to represent height?

Thought the accepted nomenclature for Newton's 2nd Law was F=ma. Perhaps Physics World, Encyclopaedia Britannica and other worthy references are wrong?

https://physicsworld.com/a/f-ma/

https://www.britannica.com/science/Newtons-laws-of...

What is you point?

You've preached about the difference between g and G but can't even get F=ma correct

[bigothunter]

500TORQUES said:

911hope said:

So you log a constant. G.constants are constant..why bother.

All those people making the same mistake. No wonder you don't know that you are wrong.

To enlighten you G is used a a constant in the equation that described the gravitational force between 2 objects of mass M and m,
With separation D.

Go look it up.
Next you will tell us you car can do 1.2G.

Longitudinal and lateral acceleration of a vehicle is not a constant.

Why do you log it? Come on, you can't be this daft.

Newtonian constant of gravitation (notation G) is 6.67430 ×10−11 m3⋅kg−1⋅s−2

It is not the acceleration due to earth's gravity (notation g) = 9.81 m/s^2

This 'debate' is equivalent to staring up my cat's ahole

[GT9]

Did we ever reach a conclusion for the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
And what is the unit of measurement for airspeed velocity...

[Strangely Brown]

GT9 said:

Did we ever reach a conclusion for the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
And what is the unit of measurement for airspeed velocity...

The conclusion was known only to the bridge keeper but he is now gone.
Unit of measurement is usually knots, though.

[havoc]

GT9 said:

Did we ever reach a conclusion for the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
And what is the unit of measurement for airspeed velocity...

For most people it'll be m/s

For the Americans among us - those for whom the metric system is the work of the devil - it'll be swallows-per-baseball-innings.



Anyway, can we ditch all the angels-on-the-head-of-a-pin stuff. EVs ARE quantitavely better in a lot of ways (most?) to an ICE engine. That's not a debate any more...not once they sort out the charging network, leastways.


Where I'm coming from is that I'm a dinosaur that refuses to be told I need to be extinct because our governments need a scapegoat for AGW. I enjoy my petrol engines in a way that an EV will never replicate - their character, their flaws (which sometimes give them character), and above all that they require me to be involved, not just press a button. Arguably quite similar to the way a grand piano is still better than even the most expensive electronic keyboard - the timbre, the depth and - yes - the involvement required. Not just set the parameters and press-a-button.

[911hope]

bigothunter said:

You've preached about the difference between g and G but can't even get F=ma correct

You agree on g and G?

[bigothunter]

GT9 said:

Did we ever reach a conclusion for the airspeed velocity of an unladen swallow?
And what is the unit of measurement for airspeed velocity...

Airspeed is conventionally measured in knots. Velocity SI is m/s but could be any units of distance and time. Their product is a mixture of scalar and vector quantities.

So how about knots.chain/fortnight ?

Obviously mass of the unladen swallow should be measures in slugs.

Other variable is whether the swallow is flying forwards or backwards. Backwards can be draughty...

[GT9]

bigothunter said:

Obviously mass of the unladen swallow should be measures in slugs.

European or African?

[Richard-D]

911hope said:

bigothunter said:

You've preached about the difference between g and G but can't even get F=ma correct

You agree on g and G?

You're one of those people that bang on about a missing apostrophe in an attempt to sidetrack an argument away from one you're on the wrong end of. Everyone knows which "it's" he means from the context. Just like everyone knows what he means by "G", you included.

[bigothunter]

Richard-D said:

911hope said:

bigothunter said:

You've preached about the difference between g and G but can't even get F=ma correct

You agree on g and G?

You're one of those people that bang on about a missing apostrophe in an attempt to sidetrack an argument away from one you're on the wrong end of. Everyone knows which "it's" he means from the context. Just like everyone knows what he means by "G", you included.

You're one of those people who bang on...

[Richard-D]

bigothunter said:

Richard-D said:

911hope said:

bigothunter said:

You've preached about the difference between g and G but can't even get F=ma correct

You agree on g and G?

You're one of those people that bang on about a missing apostrophe in an attempt to sidetrack an argument away from one you're on the wrong end of. Everyone knows which "it's" he means from the context. Just like everyone knows what he means by "G", you included.

You're one of those people who bang on...

Obviously you're no better. Clowns like you two deserve these pointless arguments with each other.

[Strangely Brown]

I suspect that as time rolls on, and we get closer and closer to the cutoff, there will be more and more pressure to reverse some of these ludicrous plans.

Prof Richard Lindzen talks about his work on IPCC and his concern for the mistaken narrative of Climate Alarmism and the way it will lead to the suffering of many.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXGWeO0KXlU

[GT9]

Anyone know the mass of a coconut?